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joe 10-16-2004 10:00 AM

Sydney 1986
 
I've been downloading these tracks from http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/nickslive/TradeSite.htm

and she doesn't sound that f***ed up to me. Didn't Mick say in his book that her drinking worsened when she went to Australia and legend has it that she fell off the stage? She actually sounds pretty normal to me. Maybe it changes later in the show.

???

David 10-16-2004 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by joe
I've been downloading these tracks from http://www.angelfire.com/mac2/nickslive/TradeSite.htm

and she doesn't sound that f***ed up to me. Didn't Mick say in his book that her drinking worsened when she went to Australia and legend has it that she fell off the stage? She actually sounds pretty normal to me. Maybe it changes later in the show.

???

I saw a bunch of RAL shows in California, & have been listening to dozens of others on tape for almost 20 years. I never saw or heard of any instance of a fall off the stage. Despite my having heard from people who claim they saw such a thing, I'm still inclined to think it's an urban myth.

I don't remember what Mick's book says about her drinking, but I have always maintained that, owing to her bloated, haggard appearance & her general mien, Stevie's "problem" on the '86 tour was alcohol, not coke. But whatever the case may have been, there were many high points on the tour. In fact, I would say that Stevie herself was a lot more tuned in to the music & the presentation than some of the people in her band were, namely Marotta the drummer.

It's all in the chronology: If you encounter tapes of Stevie singing in 1986 after having been introduced to her in later years (especially 1997 to the present), she is liable to strike you as being haggard & even pathetic. But if you had been along for the ride since the beginning of her solo career or even before, the RAL personality & look probably seem a very natural evolution to you. At least that's true in my case.

joe 10-16-2004 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by David
It's all in the chronology: If you encounter tapes of Stevie singing in 1986 after having been introduced to her in later years (especially 1997 to the present), she is liable to strike you as being haggard & even pathetic. But if you had been along for the ride since the beginning of her solo career or even before, the RAL personality & look probably seem a very natural evolution to you. At least that's true in my case.


yeah, me too.

"haggard' :laugh: i'm sure that's the general consensus. But i think this was Stevie at her "coolest". She got funkified and daring. The evolution is interesting. You watch the "white wing dove" concert and she is pretty tame and innocent looking. Then, she slowly came out of her shell and let loose as she gained more confidence as a solo artist.

blinker12 10-16-2004 11:02 AM

The sound quality on these tracks is great... Was this concert recorded professionally for a possible commercial release?

ontheEdgeof17 10-16-2004 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blinker12
The sound quality on these tracks is great... Was this concert recorded professionally for a possible commercial release?


I don't know about that. To my knowledge, these three songs are the only ones that have surfaced that are soundboard recording.....I think. :confused:

-Curt

dissention 10-16-2004 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
I don't know about that. To my knowledge, these three songs are the only ones that have surfaced that are soundboard recording.....I think. :confused:

-Curt

Yup. That's all she wrote.

David 10-16-2004 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blinker12
The sound quality on these tracks is great... Was this concert recorded professionally for a possible commercial release?

Stevie tells the crowd that she's taping this show -- the band's final '86 show -- for the band. Probably to give them the way she filmed her '89 & '91 shows in California as presents for her bandmates.

So I bet the rest of the show is out there on some reel-to-reel somewhere. Hasn't surfaced yet -- unless the Hill Group (investment firm) has it.

dissention 10-16-2004 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Stevie tells the crowd that she's taping this show -- the band's final '86 show -- for the band. Probably to give them the way she filmed her '89 & '91 shows in California as presents for her bandmates.

So I bet the rest of the show is out there on some reel-to-reel somewhere. Hasn't surfaced yet -- unless the Jill Group has it & isn't letting on.

:laugh:

From what I know, those songs come from a master reel but those were the only songs on it.

tynan88 10-16-2004 10:13 PM

Huh, what's the Jill group?

Tynan

MacMan 10-17-2004 01:51 AM

There's actually one more track from this show that I know of out there... Well 1.5 tracks actually. It's Stand Back and a bit of I Can't Wait.

ontheEdgeof17 10-17-2004 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MacMan
There's actually one more track from this show that I know of out there... Well 1.5 tracks actually. It's Stand Back and a bit of I Can't Wait.

The show is in circulation, just not the soundboard of it.


-Curt

David 10-17-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tynan88
Huh, what's the Jill group?

Typo. I meant The Hill Group, an investment banking firm that made Stevie a lot of money in porkbellies & foreign stocks in the early 1980s.

gldstwmn 10-17-2004 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17
I don't know about that. To my knowledge, these three songs are the only ones that have surfaced that are soundboard recording.....I think. :confused:

-Curt

There is a fourth song from that show floating around out there. Stand Back.

sorcerer0078 10-26-2004 10:42 PM

This show most likely took place at the Sydney Entertainment Centre back in 86 (seating cap of approx 12000). I only wish i knew BACK THEN that i was a Stevie Nicks fan, as a Sydney resident i would have loved to have seen her solo...although i was only 8 years old then!! (RAL was her only Australian solo tour!)

Brett

galestreet 03-27-2010 02:22 PM

copy RAL
 
I would love to have a copy of the 86' RAL tour!I have been looking for it all my life...


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