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diamondsnake 10-10-2004 01:18 PM

Without You Demo
 
This has to be one of the most beautiful Stevie/Lindsey songs never recorded. Why have they not considered using it for a Fleetwood Mac record? It would have been a great edition to Say You Will. Even if they can't hit hit all the notes exactly I am sure they could do a pretty good job. I mean who would have ever thought Stevie could hit the notes she did on Smile At You. Her voice never sounded better on that song (In my opinion). Anyways, I just think it is a shame they may never do this track on an official album.

Hawkeye 10-10-2004 01:54 PM

Well first of all I think I'm the only one who doesn't think Without You is THAT great. I think it's OK but nothing special. AND why have they never put it on a Fletwood MAc record. Well thats a kind of Stupid question, they could NEVER pull of those harmonies today.

Lala 10-10-2004 02:58 PM

It's an awesome song. It's probably the closest thing to a non-angry love song Stevie and Lindsey have. And according to BuckinghamNicks.net they both wrote it which seems to be a rare thing. I think they've definitely both moved on from that Everly Brothers style harmony thing, similar to their harmonies on IDWK. I just can't picture this nice little song in the midst of Come and Smile At You. The demo is really a gem and I don't know if it could be improved anyways. I bought Mirage the other day and was looking forward to hearing the album version of That's Alright and I was a little disapointed. The demo is better.

Hawkeye 10-10-2004 03:33 PM

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they both wrote it which seems to be a rare thing.
Frozen Love was also written by both of them, and i feel Frozen Love is FAR superior to Without You

Lala 10-10-2004 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Frozen Love was also written by both of them, and i feel Frozen Love is FAR superior to Without You

Yeah but you're comparing a fully produced song (and completely awesome song...I'm in agreement there!) with a demo. Other than lyrically it's hard to be fair in comparing them.

Watchdevil22 10-11-2004 12:09 AM

I thoroughly enjoy the demo of "Without You"...I'm trying to hear in my head what this song would be today with their "more mature" voices. I would definitely be up for hearing a 2004 version. While Stevie lost that sort of range long ago, she never ceases to amaze in compensating in other ways. And the Buckingham Nicks harmony IS still there. I'm sure they could do something great with it, and it would be fun to see done. I'm thinking a la watching them work through "World Turning" in the Destiny Rules documentary...that was one of my favorite parts of the whole thing. It would be great to get to watch B & N trying out some of those old songs, or new ones for that matter!!! :nod:

Erin

KathyD 10-11-2004 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Well first of all I think I'm the only one who doesn't think Without You is THAT great. I think it's OK but nothing special. AND why have they never put it on a Fletwood MAc record. Well thats a kind of Stupid question, they could NEVER pull of those harmonies today.

Frozen Love was also written by both of them, and i feel Frozen Love is FAR superior to Without You

That's a "kind of Stupid" comment. Everyone has their own opinions, and I happen to really enjoy both songs for different reasons. I like the whole package of Frozen Love. Their voices together on Without You are brilliant. IMO.

Kelly 10-11-2004 07:29 AM

I love Without You. IMHO, they could pull off this song today with a few changes. If BN is ever released on cd, they should include the WY demo...it's that good.
Perhaps they do not feel comfortable using a song like WY today because of the subject matter? I dunno, it is one of the purest love songs they have ever written to each other, maybe they don't want to "go there" on a present day album?

WednesdaysChild 10-11-2004 09:02 AM

I love that song. It's so chilling.

But it's just MY opinion.

diamondsnake 10-11-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelly
I love Without You. IMHO, they could pull off this song today with a few changes. If BN is ever released on cd, they should include the WY demo...it's that good.
Perhaps they do not feel comfortable using a song like WY today because of the subject matter? I dunno, it is one of the purest love songs they have ever written to each other, maybe they don't want to "go there" on a present day album?

True, the song is the most romantic song ever written by Stevie and Lindsey I would say.

Lala 10-11-2004 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Watchdevil22
I thoroughly enjoy the demo of "Without You"...I'm trying to hear in my head what this song would be today with their "more mature" voices. I would definitely be up for hearing a 2004 version. While Stevie lost that sort of range long ago, she never ceases to amaze in compensating in other ways. And the Buckingham Nicks harmony IS still there. I'm sure they could do something great with it, and it would be fun to see done. I'm thinking a la watching them work through "World Turning" in the Destiny Rules documentary...that was one of my favorite parts of the whole thing. It would be great to get to watch B & N trying out some of those old songs, or new ones for that matter!!! :nod:

Erin

If/when they go on tour again they ought to have a few BN songs in the set during one part of the concert, maybe done very accusticaly(sp?) and end it all with a kick @$$ version of Frozen Love with the full band. I know it's probably wishful thinking but it would be awesome. Unfortunately I'd probably be sitting by another stoned Rumours fans who'd yell "Get back to what we paid for"

As for the subject matter I think it would be easier for them to do now than say in the 80s. Songs like Sara, Say Goodbye, and Goodbye Baby are pretty personal and Lindsey and Stevie seem to be at a place where they can accept that those feelings are part of their past and sing/play with heart, revisiting for those few minutes.

So I think it would be more likely for them to do it live than to actually put it on an album because I don't think the song meshes with the material they're writing now.

Hopefully that makes sense and I'm really enjoying discussing this.

David 10-14-2004 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lala
And according to BuckinghamNicks.net they both wrote it which seems to be a rare thing.

Is that confirmed somewhere? The song was initially one of the "Almanac" batch put on vinyl in 1979. When did Lindsey & Stevie say they wrote it together?

I wouldn't be surprised to hear it was one of the demos they did for "Buckingham Nicks #2" or one of the demos they brought to L.A. with them.

strandinthewind 10-14-2004 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Is that confirmed somewhere? The song was initially one of the "Almanac" batch put on vinyl in 1979. When did Lindsey & Stevie say they wrote it together?

I wouldn't be surprised to hear it was one of the demos they did for "Buckingham Nicks #2" or one of the demos they brought to L.A. with them.

I have never heard either of them specifically mention this song :shrug: But, it seems logical that it would be :shrug:

I just think the lyrics are beautiful - maybe more beautiful than the way they sing it and that is perfection IMO!!!! -


In my life,
There's been a few things worth singing,
About you.
Well, I never even dreamed that I'd know you.
Strange are the ways,
Of a very complicated world . . .
And there you are.

Come to me now,
And I'll never know another.
You are a song for me;
A melody,
Ingrained in my soul.
Sing, sing your song.
For my ears, they only hear you.
If I never knew the likes of you,
Where would I be without you?
Without you . . .
Without you . . .
Yeah.

If I'd not heard your laughter,
Maybe I wouldn't love you.
If I'd not sung your music,
I'd not come rollin' after you . . .
Whoa yeah.

Right out loud,
The time had come and gone,
Without you.
Inside me, love to be written about you.
Strange are the ways,
Of a very complicated world . . .
And there you are.

Come to me now,
And I'll never know another.
You are a song for me;
A melody,
Ingrained in my soul.
Sing, sing your song.
For my ears, they only hear you.
If I never knew the likes of you,
Where would I be without you?
Without you . . .
Without you . . .
Yeah

dissention 10-14-2004 04:12 PM

It doesn't strike me as something Lindsey would have written, it's more of a Stevie tune. Great song, though.


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