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dissention 08-30-2004 10:32 AM

Push-Polled By Bush
 
After dinner last night, I got a phone call from someone claiming to be from an "independent polling company," only to find out that it was the Bush camp.

They asked if I was going to vote for Bush in November, and when I told them that I most definitely was not, they asked probably the most sickening question I've ever heard in my life:

Knowing that Kerry had cancer and with the knowledge that no one is a cancer survivor until five years have passed where the patient is cancer-free, would you still vote for Kerry?

We have hit a new low in American politics. I called the man a few choice words and hung up. Has anyone else been push-polled?

Patti 08-30-2004 10:39 AM

No I haven't, but that really is despicable. Really, really low.

gldstwmn 08-30-2004 04:18 PM

No, I haven't been push polled. I'm kind of surprised, since I live in a swing state. Did you let the campaign know?

Merf 08-30-2004 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Knowing that Kerry had cancer and with the knowledge that no one is a cancer survivor until five years have passed where the patient is cancer-free, would you still vote for Kerry?

That is absolutely disgraceful. But what do you expect from those thugs? :mad: If that jerkoff calls my house, I would remind them of Lance Armstrong winning six Tour de Frances in a row in the six years he has been in remission. What banes of humanity....

LIVESTRONG, KERRY, LIVESTRONG.

estranged4life 08-30-2004 05:21 PM

Hmmm...
 
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Knowing that Kerry had cancer and with the knowledge that no one is a cancer survivor until five years have passed where the patient is cancer-free, would you still vote for Kerry?
Since WHEN is a person considered a cancer survivor after 5 years? Occording to the Doctors we see that would sound like a "B.S. burger"...And I am MARRIED to someone who is surviving cancer (2 more Rad treatments and then it's just quarterly checkups for ol' Deb...)

If ANY pollster (Be it Repub or Demo) called and asked that question to me, My heart would probably become more damaged from the ab-so-F**KING-lute-ly BRUTAL verbal bashing I would hand out.

Btw, CANCER has nothing to do with IF a person can do THE J-O-B!!!!

Brian j.

amber 08-30-2004 05:29 PM

Actually, that makes me suspicious that something worse may be in the plottage...
AMber

Jen77 08-30-2004 06:57 PM

Ok so I just got a phone call...it was a recording of Bush asking me to vote for him:mad: Never in previous elections, have I ever had a phone call asking me to vote for them!!! This is just getting to be too much :distress:

Anyone else have this call?

~*~Jen~*~

77Rumours77 08-30-2004 07:26 PM

Omg....
 
This is sad and sicking all at that same time! If bush think she is gaining support by basically "tella-marketing" (well there not selling, but still..) Hes nuts! I can't wait till november till this **** is done!!!!!

Johnny Stew 08-30-2004 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jen77
Ok so I just got a phone call...it was a recording of Bush asking me to vote for him:mad:

Don't be so sure it was a recording! ;) :laugh:

Johnny Stew 08-30-2004 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
They asked if I was going to vote for Bush in November, and when I told them that I most definitely was not, they asked probably the most sickening question I've ever heard in my life:

Knowing that Kerry had cancer and with the knowledge that no one is a cancer survivor until five years have passed where the patient is cancer-free, would you still vote for Kerry?

Despicable, and yet, why am I not surprised?

Of course, I'm sure the Bush Adminstration has nothing to do with this. They don't conduct themselves in ways such as this, you know (*cough*Swift Boat Vets*cough*). ;)

golddustwoman77 08-30-2004 09:11 PM

Normally, I don't get involved in these political discussions, but this just made me want to vent.

I'm never surprised at anything that happens in politics, but I will have to say that I think this election is sinking to a new low with that phone call about Kerry with cancer and the "Swift Boat Vets" thing.

I think that the latter one gets me the most. How can George W. Bush set up to attack a man who has volunteered and served during war time, when he never really served at all (Well, if you want to count absentee, National Guard service as serving---I guess you could). Also, the military doesn't just hand out three medals of honor for nothing. I mean come on! Kerry must have accomplished something honorable to receive these. Also, he wouldn't have the support of all the men on his boat the night of his speech, if they didn't respect him and believe in his war record. Also, those same men would know what he did and didn't do in Vietnam. If Kerry wasn't being honorable and truthful, no support would be there. These people who are attacking him in the ads are some of the same people who supported him in his last Senate campaign. There are pictures of some of these same men supporting Kerry at one of his rallies. That is just way to fishy to me---they're supporting his record one minute and not supporting it the next?! (Sounds like money changed hands on that deal to get them to change their minds.) Also, these vets on the commericals weren't anywhere around Kerry and his men in Vietnam. Therefore, how can they make statements about what he did or didn't do?

I would call myself a voter for the best man for the job, and I just can't see how President Bush has helped this country in anyway. I can only see lies and bad decisions from him and his cabinet. I teach school and his educational plan is one of the worst I have ever seen. Iraq is a mess and the timing on going to war with Iraq was terrible. There are just so many things I have examined, and I can only come to one conclusion: I think it is time for him to go, and give someone else a chance. I also think Kerry has an excellent plan for America. Everyone should read it; even if they are unsure or think they are going to vote for Bush. I think it is important to have an open minded about all this. I have definitely tried to have one, and my conclusion is Kerry!

DrummerDeanna 08-30-2004 09:54 PM

That's just bad polling - plain and simple....perhaps that's why Bush seems to lead in the polls as often as he does...

I took a whole class last year on public opinion and propaganda...and learned all about different polling techniques and what to and not to do...these guys are a complete disgrace to the profession of polling....

dissention 08-30-2004 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Did you let the campaign know?

:nod: I could hear the guy sighing, but what did he expect when calling someone from Kerry's home state?

dissention 08-30-2004 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna
That's just bad polling - plain and simple....perhaps that's why Bush seems to lead in the polls as often as he does...

I took a whole class last year on public opinion and propaganda...and learned all about different polling techniques and what to and not to do...these guys are a complete disgrace to the profession of polling....

Yeah, but it isn't a real polling company, it's the Bush campaign. The whole point of "push-polling" is for one of the camps to pretend as if they're a polling company, but to plant dirty seeds in the minds of the people being polled. If the seeds have any impact on how they would vote, the campaign uses it to attack the other campaign. That's what the Bush camp did to McCain by telling the people being polled that he fathered an illegitimate child while imprisoned at the Hanoi Hilton, that his adopted daughter was the result of an affair with an immigrant, and that his wife was a drug addict.

gldstwmn 08-30-2004 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by golddustwoman77

I'm never surprised at anything that happens in politics, but I will have to say that I think this election is sinking to a new low with that phone call about Kerry with cancer and the "Swift Boat Vets" thing.

I think that the latter one gets me the most. How can George W. Bush set up to attack a man who has volunteered and served during war time, when he never really served at all (Well, if you want to count absentee, National Guard service as serving---I guess you could). Also, the military doesn't just hand out three medals of honor for nothing. I mean come on! Kerry must have accomplished something honorable to receive these. Also, he wouldn't have the support of all the men on his boat the night of his speech, if they didn't respect him and believe in his war record. Also, those same men would know what he did and didn't do in Vietnam. If Kerry wasn't being honorable and truthful, no support would be there.

Not to mention, have you seen any of Bush's "band of brothers" come forward?


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