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Jason T. 07-06-2004 07:05 AM

Kerry/Edwards 2004!!!
 
It's official! Isn't it great? I would of gone with Hillary myself, but this is okay. :cool:

estranged4life 07-06-2004 07:17 AM

Interesting...
 
I like Sen.Edwards so this "may" finally help me to decide on who to vote for and who NOT to vote for.

dissention 07-06-2004 08:16 AM

Anyone see the New York Post today?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

No surprise that it's a newspaper owned by Fox News. ;)

As for the new ticket, I'm thrilled. Edwards just might give Cheney his 5th heart attack. I'm glad he didn't go with Clark, he would've had a lot of **** to deal with. As for the critics who complain about Edwards because "he has no foreign experience," that never stopped you from voting for George W. Bush. What was his foreign experience? He had none. :wavey:

dissention 07-06-2004 08:34 AM

It's already on eBay! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

Jason T. 07-06-2004 08:45 AM

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It's already on eBay! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I had to save that picture.

I can't believe the Republicans are using the McCain 1st-choice thing; it is just sick and wrong. It makes sense though, they have absolutely nothing else to work off... :laugh:

Patti 07-06-2004 08:46 AM

Great news! I like Edwards and he is who I was hoping Kerry would choose. I really think Edwards will appeal to some of the swing voters in a way Kerry could not.

Patti

dissention 07-06-2004 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason T.
I had to save that picture.

I can't believe the Republicans are using the McCain 1st-choice thing; it is just sick and wrong. It makes sense though, they have absolutely nothing else to work off... :laugh:

Those McCain statements simply have no basis in fact. How do they know he was the first choice? They don't, they're just playing politics. Just because someone was courted, it doesn't mean they were the first choice. However, if that's how they want to play it, we might as well say that Clark, Vilsack, and Gephardt were Kerry's first choices, too. :rolleyes:

Turn on MSNBC, Mitt Romney is on talking about how Cheney has more character and moral fiber than Edwards. *puke*

Again, what foreign experience did Bush have? NONE. They're such hypocrtical douchebags.

Jason T. 07-06-2004 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
...Mitt Romney is on talking about how Cheney has more character and moral fiber than Edwards. *puke*

Again, what foreign experience did Bush have? NONE. They're such hypocrtical douchebags.

Ha! I for some reason can't recall the last time John Edwards had to have his speeches bleeped out for inappropriate content. As for Bush having foreign experience -- what the (to quote Cheney) f***?

Jason T. 07-06-2004 09:04 AM

Did y'all see that part in Kerry's speech today when John nearly took out Teresa with his arm? She just kept backing away...she's so awesome! :D

dissention 07-06-2004 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason T.
Did y'all see that part in Kerry's speech today when John nearly took out Teresa with his arm? She just kept backing away...she's so awesome! :D

:nod:

Personally, I would've loved to see him pick his wife as the VP. :laugh: I totally love that woman. She says what she feels and is always brutally honest and warm. LOVE Teresa!

strandinthewind 07-06-2004 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Again, what foreign experience did Bush have? NONE. They're such hypocrtical douchebags.

As Gov. of Texas, W routinely dealt with Mexico and to a lesser degree Central America. Those are foreign nations. So, W had experience dealing with foreign nations prior to becoming President. So, you are incorrect ( :eek: ) when you say W had "none." The correct assertion should have been, Gov. W's foreign experience with dealing with Mexico and Central America did not prepare him for dealing with the rest of the world because [insert reasons here] - :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Caveat - I dislike Bush, but he had foreign experience. Interestingly, Cheney had tons of it.

strandinthewind 07-06-2004 10:12 AM

I think Edwards is a good choice. He is a candidate that is far more human in the way the public perceives him than Kerry. So, hopefully, he will sway the needed voters in the five or so swing states. Also, he may be able to swing the voters in the panhandle of Florida, which is very Southernesq. in its population as opposed to South Florida.

strandinthewind 07-06-2004 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Those McCain statements simply have no basis in fact. How do they know he was the first choice? They don't, they're just playing politics. Just because someone was courted, it doesn't mean they were the first choice. However, if that's how they want to play it, we might as well say that Clark, Vilsack, and Gephardt were Kerry's first choices, too. :rolleyes:

At least four anchor persons I have seen have stated it was widely known but not officially documented that Kerry courted McCain. These would be people in the know. AND - these anchors were on CNN, so it is not like it was Fox saying it, alhough Fox did indeed say it :cool: So, I think Kerry probably did approach McCain to test the waters, but that does not mean Kerry ever said McCain was his first choice.

dissention 07-06-2004 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
As Gov. of Texas, W routinely dealt with Mexico and to a lesser degree Central America. Those are foreign nations. So, W had experience dealing with foreign nations prior to becoming President. So, you are incorrect ( :eek: ) when you say W had "none." The correct assertion should have been, Gov. W's foreign experience with dealing with Mexico and Central America did not prepare him for dealing with the rest of the world because [insert reasons here] - :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Caveat - I dislike Bush, but he had foreign experience. Interestingly, Cheney had tons of it.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I'll let that one go, I'm too elated right now that Edwards is our next VP. ;) You knew exactly what I meant when I said he had none. Yeah, having cocktails with Mexican officials makes him a real pro in foreign affairs around the world. :rolleyes: Having minor dealings with Mexico doesn't constitute having much foreign experience and you know it. That's what I meant. Interestingly, what the pundits fail to tell the people is that Edwards has had more foreign policy experience than Bush had when he sought office. For christs sake, he has a hand in drafting foreign policy.

dissention 07-06-2004 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
At least four anchor persons I have seen have stated it was widely known but not officially documented that Kerry courted McCain. These would be people in the know. AND - these anchors were on CNN, so it is not like it was Fox saying it, alhough Fox did indeed say it :cool: So, I think Kerry probably did approach McCain to test the waters, but that does not mean Kerry ever said McCain was his first choice.

It's a fact that he courted McCain, just as it's a fact that he courted Clark and Vilsack. However, there's a big difference between courting someone to see if they'd be interested in the job and being someones #1 choice.

So, we agree, what was your point? :confused: :xoxo:

PS: I don't give a rat's ass what Faux News says, EVER. They are not a source of news, they're a source of conservative propaganda and tabloid entertainment. The fact that they aired an explicit photo of sexual penetration and their sister paper printed a front page headline saying Gephardt has been chosen for VP lends them even less credibility. :wavey:


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