Actual reels for sale on eBay
 

http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...&category=1602

There is a lot of two reels for $400, a complete rip-off. Someone would have to be out of their mind to spend all that money for them! :laugh: However, I hope a true fan buys them and refuses to trade them...

Anyone know why traders are being stingy with them? No one will trade them anymore, which is a damn shame. :distress:

You know, I often wonder, who is selling these things and who in the hell buys them for this kind of money?

Nut cases with lots of change buried in their sofas!

I always find it ironic that "the powers that be," sit on this stuff... presumably thinking that no one would be interested.
Meanwhile, some fans are paying hundreds of dollars to get their hands on this material.

They could easily release a three or four disc boxed-set of the best of Stevie's demos and outtakes, and we'd all come running.

Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks Missed Opportunity #7,368.

It would go gold in a week! :D

Could you imagine if that ever happened?! Imagine if she used demos that have never been heard before! Edge of 17, Blue Denim, Long Way To Go, Stand Back, Night Hawk, Everybody Finds Out, Illume, Silver Girl, Listen to the Rain, Alice, HAEWAFY; I would wet myself if we got to hear those demos!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Yes that's an insane amount of money, especially for reels that are already circulating...

As for your question, that does seem to be a trend amongst several traders (elitism ? :confused: ) but not all of them, far from it.

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Don't feel too bad... I'm not even a member of that particular "in" group! :distress:
In all honesty, I'm not even sure who is... just that "they're" out there.

Truly though, Stevie does have some of the most generous fans in existence, and the amount of excellent-quality bootlegs that are circulating, is amazing. :nod:

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I've often wondered about that. I don't follow any other bands like this, so I don't really know, but do other bands have this much unreleased studio material floating around? I realize the Dead are probably the kings of concert bootlegs. And I suppose The Beatles have a lot of studio stuff floating around...but I know I've got an awful lot of unreleased songs (especially Stevie), let alone alternate versions or takes of released songs, is this par for the course?

:confused:

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I've noticed that as of late, almost *all* of the traders that had the masters for trade took them off of their lists or put a note next to them saying that they weren't for trade. I find it quite rude that others get masters/boots and sit on them like they own 'em. Case in point, the wall-of-sound version of Thrown Down. People thought that they were entitled to it more than everyone else and only a select few got copies of it. It was forwarded to a few people with a disclaimer saying not to give it to anyone else because it would "spoil a good thing." Baloney! One particular fan doesn't deserve to hear it more than another! So, when it was sent to me a few days after it was leaked to a select few, I logged onto WinMX and shared it with whoever wanted it. If those stingy asses didn't like it, tough tacos, IMO. :nod:

So, when I finally get a copy of Black Velvet, I'll sit on it and wave it in front of the folks with the new master reels who feel they're too above us to share. :laugh:

After all, if it wasn't for the generosity of the FM/SN traders out there, these stingy folks wouldn't have half of the stuff they have or any of the master reels. :rolleyes:

Some groups... for example the Beatles, and the Grateful Dead... have a lot of material circulating within their fan communities.

But it's nearly impossible to get your hands on material by many other artists.

I know I tried for AGES to find a Heart fan who had some of the stuff I was looking for (though I eventually found someone who very generously helped me fill in some blanks in my collection).

And Madonna fans seem to hold on tightly to what they have. Or they're only willing to sell it to you for a high-price.

It's not like the Mac fan community, where it's *very* easy to find someone reliable who's willing to trade with you.
(I sent a couple CDs worth of rare Stevie stuff to someone last fall, who was supposed to send me a couple of CDs of Madonna stuff, in turn. A year later, and he never sent the CDs.) :distress:

Oh well!

Hmmm...Interesting...
 

Being that I collect both Stevie/F.Mac & Beatles music I can honestly say that I never had a problem trading within the Beatles community whereas the same cannot be said of the Stevie/F.Mac community...

The Beatles collectors overall are more generous than any other traders I have dealt with whereas some Stevie/F.Mac traders just take it WAY TO SERIOUSLY!!!

If a new Beatles collector was to offer stuff for cash they would learn real fast that is the one way to be left "blacklisted" by the rest of the community...Then when the new stuff is traded within the community they are left out PERMANENTLY!!!

Btw, That Stevie reel seems to have some song/studio takes on it that were in circulation online very recently from the time period of January '80.

Brian j.

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I've really only engaged in relatively few trades, and luckily all but two of the people that I've dealt with, have been very generous, helpful, and great to deal with.

I haven't really had any experience with Beatles fans, trading-wise, but compared to other fan-bases that I've dealt with, the Mac/Stevie people have been absolutely terrific.

I imagine though, that if I traded on a bigger scale, that I'd probably run into more jerks. But that seems to be true of just about everything in life. :(

"I've really only engaged in relatively few trades, and luckily all but two of the people that I've dealt with, have been very generous, helpful, and great to deal with.

I haven't really had any experience with Beatles fans, trading-wise, but compared to other fan-bases that I've dealt with, the Mac/Stevie people have been absolutely terrific.

I imagine though, that if I traded on a bigger scale, that I'd probably run into more jerks. But that seems to be true of just about everything in life."

Trust me, The Beatles collector's are super loyal & generous...And there is no "secret online group" (Which some people have "assumed" I am a part of...Sorry folks, I am a "lone wolf" I work by myself trading wise) stuff within the Beatles' rank of traders/collectors...

I havent ran into many jerks myself even though I trade on a larger scale than most people online. 90% of the traders I have dealt with are just really honest fans who believe music is meant to be shared with everyone and not to be kept to one self (ie-the 9/24/02 Paul McCartney Chicago show which is HELLA-HARD to find as a 2 cd version, Which I have traded to several Beatles collector's recently)

I try to be generous because when I started trading I had to spend $ to get a small collection started because I had nothing to offer in return for a trade...But now that my collection is quite large I won't spend $ or accept $ for the music I have...Hell, I traded for all the 2003 SYW shows I have listed on my trade website and a small minority of the great shows came from traders outside the usual F.Mac/S.Nicks trading circles.

Brian j.

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I agree! There are some FM/SN traders who take it *way* too seriously. Some of their rules are absolutely daunting and really take away from the fun in trading. Don't do this, don't do that; who cares? As long as I get the boot(s) and it sounds as promised, I'm good to go. :nod:

Well folks, someone bought them. :)

Hopefully it's a fan who will be thoughtful enought to trade them instead of hoarding them like greedy, elitist asses who think they deserve them more than anyone else. ;)