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aleuzzi 07-17-2021 07:59 PM

Christine’s piano playing in Chicken Shack
 
Today, I was listening to “It’s Okay With Me Baby” (always loved this tune) and let compilation album continue right into “When My Left Eye Jumps.” I hardly ever listen to the Stan Webb tracks so I was floored by Christine’s piano playing on the song. If you can put up with Stan’s singing, I urge to listen to it. Her attack is so confident and forceful, as if she’d been playing blues her entire life. And given the lack of overdubbing, the piano is foregrounded in the mix, so you can really hear her digging in.

With FM, Christine’s playing became more foundational. As part of the musical bedrock that inevitably featured whichever guitarist was in the lineup, this change helped give the band its signature sound. But I do wish she’d allowed herself an occasional opportunity to break out like she did on the first two Chicken Shack records.

lazy poker 07-18-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1268215)
Today, I was listening to “It’s Okay With Me Baby” (always loved this tune) and let compilation album continue right into “When My Left Eye Jumps.” I hardly ever listen to the Stan Webb tracks so I was floored by Christine’s piano playing on the song. If you can put up with Stan’s singing, I urge to listen to it. Her attack is so confident and forceful, as if she’d been playing blues her entire life. And given the lack of overdubbing, the piano is foregrounded in the mix, so you can really hear her digging in.

(. . .) I do wish she’d allowed herself an occasional opportunity to break out like she did on the first two Chicken Shack records.

The reason I got into Chicken Shack at the time indeed was Christine, not Stan Webb. Let's face it - he's a hardly bearable howler (to avoid the terms "singer" and "vocalist") and he's not much of a real blues guitarist. That said, it was the tracks that were mostly dominated by Christine's great piano playing and her haunting vocals (the like I've never heard before!) that drew me into the Shack. And - as I mentioned somewhere else here before already - another part that was responsible for that, was the tight rhythm section of Andy Sylvester and Dave Bidwell. So I could've done well without the eccentric Mr. Webb - with the Christine Perfect Trio, if you like. ;)

But that was certainly not to be and by the way she'd recorded her eponimous first album and had a few gigs with her band featuring Top Topham, she'd already changed her style pretty much. Thus I had hoped that it would actually come to a much-rumoured blues album of hers, to maybe once more bringing her fine piano style and her satin vocals to the fore in an according blues setting. But somehow I'm afraid this is nothing more than wishful thinking again.

jbrownsjr 07-19-2021 08:34 AM

I'll have to check this out. I've listened to all of their songs, but not often and mostly Christine's.

lazy poker 07-19-2021 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1268252)
I'll have to check this out. I've listened to all of their songs, but not often and mostly Christine's.

This one's a good 'un for a start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iczNjo91dIE

jbrownsjr 07-20-2021 08:59 AM

Yes, I've hear that one a million times. It's amazing! ^^^

aleuzzi 07-20-2021 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lazy poker (Post 1268228)
The reason I got into Chicken Shack at the time indeed was Christine, not Stan Webb. Let's face it - he's a hardly bearable howler (to avoid the terms "singer" and "vocalist") and he's not much of a real blues guitarist. That said, it was the tracks that were mostly dominated by Christine's great piano playing and her haunting vocals (the like I've never heard before!) that drew me into the Shack. And - as I mentioned somewhere else here before already - another part that was responsible for that, was the tight rhythm section of Andy Sylvester and Dave Bidwell. So I could've done well without the eccentric Mr. Webb - with the Christine Perfect Trio, if you like. ;)

But that was certainly not to be and by the way she'd recorded her eponimous first album and had a few gigs with her band featuring Top Topham, she'd already changed her style pretty much. Thus I had hoped that it would actually come to a much-rumoured blues album of hers, to maybe once more bringing her fine piano style and her satin vocals to the fore in an according blues setting. But somehow I'm afraid this is nothing more than wishful thinking again.

Yes, sadly, she’s never given us the twelve-bar blues album she threatened to do for decades.

But she’s never let the blues off the hook either. One in a Million, and about five songs from ITM are derived from the blues.

But yeah, that piano playing...we hear it on the first two Shack records and on Peter’s songs from Mr. Wonderful.

lazy poker 07-21-2021 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1268296)
Yes, sadly, she’s never given us the twelve-bar blues album she threatened to do for decades.
(. . .)
But yeah, that piano playing...we hear it on the first two Shack records and on Peter’s songs from Mr. Wonderful.

Yeah, exactly - she's done that so brilliantly . . . and I miss that! Just the same with her singing real blues stuff!

jbrownsjr 01-18-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1268296)
Yes, sadly, she’s never given us the twelve-bar blues album she threatened to do for decades.

But she’s never let the blues off the hook either. One in a Million, and about five songs from ITM are derived from the blues.

But yeah, that piano playing...we hear it on the first two Shack records and on Peter’s songs from Mr. Wonderful.

I was wondering if she's working on anything. Or, is she just enjoying the rest of her life. I want that next solo album. :angel:

SteveMacD 01-19-2022 06:12 PM

In retrospect, it’s weird that she wasn’t asked to join Fleetwood Mac after Mr. Wonderful.

Maybe Mike Vernon knew Chicken Shack wouldn’t be viable without her and he needed at least one more noteworthy band.

jbrownsjr 04-27-2022 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1272133)
In retrospect, it’s weird that she wasn’t asked to join Fleetwood Mac after Mr. Wonderful.

Maybe Mike Vernon knew Chicken Shack wouldn’t be viable without her and he needed at least one more noteworthy band.

I never thought of that. But, it makes sense.

SteveMacD 04-27-2022 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1274191)
I never thought of that. But, it makes sense.

I mean, Chicken Shack was absolutely Stan’s band. Christine only had two songs on 40BFFPARTS and 3.5 songs on OK Ken?

All of which makes the fact she was the lead vocalist on three of the first four Chicken Shack singles all the more telling of what Vernon really thought of Chicken Shack an Stan Webb.

lazy poker 04-28-2022 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1274196)
I mean, Chicken Shack was absolutely Stan’s band. Christine only had two songs on 40BFFPARTS and 3.5 songs on OK Ken?

All of which makes the fact she was the lead vocalist on three of the first four Chicken Shack singles all the more telling of what Vernon really thought of Chicken Shack an Stan Webb.

Still Mike Vernon held on to the Shack for two more albums after Christine had left - but their success was dwindling down . . . which wasn't really surprising.

aleuzzi 04-28-2022 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1274191)
I never thought of that. But, it makes sense.

In retrospect it makes perfect sense, but in the minds of the Green band, they weren’t ready to consider it. Not even close. They needed to feel the devastating loss of their leader, record an entirely different kind of record (Kiln House) without any clear sense of direction before they realized what was in front of them all along. There’s an early 70s interview with Kirwan (cited in Samuel Graham’s book on the band) that supports this.

jbrownsjr 04-28-2022 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1274203)
In retrospect it makes perfect sense, but in the minds of the Green band, they weren’t ready to consider it. Not even close. They needed to feel the devastating loss of their leader, record an entirely different kind of record (Kiln House) without any clear sense of direction before they realized what was in front of them all along. There’s an early 70s interview with Kirwan (cited in Samuel Graham’s book on the band) that supports this.

Ohhhh, I'd love to see that quote. :)

aleuzzi 04-28-2022 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1274205)
Ohhhh, I'd love to see that quote. :)

The book isn’t Samuel Graham’s. The quote is actually in a book written by Charley Walters. It was published by Billboard in 1978. I don’t own it but I remember it was in there. I’ll find a copy…


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