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thewhitewingedd 09-29-2002 03:07 PM

Time
 
So, we know TIME tanked really bad:distress:...I think it has sold about 34-40 thousand copies or something like that...Not what you would expect from Fleetwood Mac for sure..Anyway..I have listened to it about a million times and still I can't find one thing wrong with it, so why do you think it tanked????...

wetcamelfood 09-29-2002 04:50 PM

I agree Adam, I think "Time" is a great album too! :)

I think it was the lack of promotion. It seems quite clear to me that WB/Reprise will simply REFUSE to get behind and promote a FM album unless it has the BN lineup (yes, I love the BN lineup too but if "the truth be told" and if I am "entitled to my opinion" and other such disclaimers...) if the VBO ad campaign statements of the new FM album being "their first full new stuido album in 15 years" are anything to go by. It could be argued that the new ad campaign is more Rhino's doing but this is not the first time these "ignoring other lineups/members" incidents have happened and those were long before Rhino's time. JMHO though. :)

John

jwd 09-29-2002 09:15 PM

Like John said, I think it was partly due to the fact that it wasn't promoted very heavily. BUT I think the main reason was because the Buckingham/Nicks combo wasn't there anymore, and with that I guess the record company didn't want to spend a lot of money on a FM they didn't think would succeed, or as well as the Rumours lineup had. Time has its moments, but I personally would have picked the BTM incarnation of FM to keep "things" more viable and alive.


Joe

chiliD 09-29-2002 10:44 PM

Here are some factors I think may have contributed:

1) Lack of backing by the record company

2) They ENDED the tour BEFORE the album was released.

3) The two remaining founding members' hearts weren't into it 100%

4) Their own identity crisis. There were three different lineups between the band that toured for 18 months before the album came out and the two different lineups that recorded the album.

5) They toured on an oldies package tour (with Pat Benatar & REO Speedwagon) instead of promoting the fact that they were a full, new lineup of Fleetwood Mac. They still were doing basically a set of Rumours tunes and Dave Mason solo tunes...nothing "NEW".

6) That they hired Dave Mason as a last resort, when there were other guitarists (seemingly) available that would've better fit the bill (Todd Sharp & Walter Egan are two that come to mind first)

From the "what if" files:

What if the litigations that tore apart the friendships between Mick, John & Chris and Bob Welch weren't so animosity filled, so that Bob Welch could've come back to the band after Rick Vito had left?? A "Time" lineup of Mick, John, Billy, Bekka & Bob?

Mac Fan 09-30-2002 11:00 AM

I think Time is amazing, I don't find anything wrong with it.

chiliD 09-30-2002 11:53 AM

Sure:

Live 1994/95:

Mick & John (of course!)
Billy Burnette: guitar & vocals
Bekka Bramlett: vocals, tambourine
Dave Mason: lead guitar, vocals
Steve Thoma: keyboards, vocals

Studio: (non-Christine tracks)

Mick & John (of course!)
Billy Burnette: guitar & vocals
Bekka Bramlett: vocals, tambourine
Dave Mason: lead guitar, vocals
Steve Thoma: keyboards (on a couple of tracks)

Not sure if Christine was involved in these tunes, the liner notes aren't really specific that way...doesn't sound like it though.

Studio: (Christine tracks)

Mick & John
Christine McVie: keyboards, vocals
Mike Thompson: guitars
Bekka & Billy: background vocals (probably overdubbed later)

Matthew 05-31-2010 03:11 PM

I made this video today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDHGLvsy61o I still love that song.

StreetAngel95 05-31-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew (Post 893391)
I made this video today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDHGLvsy61o I still love that song.

awww matt it says there are copyright issues! upload it again, i'd love to see it!:)

bluefox4000 05-31-2010 04:59 PM

I'll have to listen again. I loathed it when i first heard it........i'll try again:nod:

Mick

StreetAngel95 05-31-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bluefox4000 (Post 893415)
I'll have to listen again. I loathed it when i first heard it........i'll try again:nod:

Mick

i hope that you atleast like "Nights in Estoril"! That song is amazing!

ButterCookie 05-31-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetAngel95 (Post 893416)
i hope that you atleast like "Nights in Estoril"! That song is amazing!

*dances then leaves*

bluefox4000 05-31-2010 05:53 PM

I listened to most of it........had to stop. ugh.......boring boring boring. Just the most generic music ever. Soooooooo sorry. Not my thing. I liked most of chris's stuff....Hollywood being the standout. I just can't believe this was made. harsh I know.......And i apologize. A head scratcher album:shrug:

Mick

OldTimer 05-31-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefox4000 (Post 893429)
.......boring boring boring. Just the most generic music ever. Soooooooo sorry.

I think discussion of the 'Unleashed' tour belongs in the other forum, actually.





:p :laugh:

HomerMcvie 05-31-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 893462)
I think discussion of the 'Unleashed' tour belongs in the other forum, actually.




I would love to purchase you, the drink of your choosing!!!!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Matthew 06-01-2010 04:38 AM

OMG, stupid YouTube...
http://www.mediafire.com/?yn1d3my3ozz here it is


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