Box set potential
Now that Warners are releasing the Early Years box set chronicling 1969-74 including bonus tracks and a live set, is it inconceivable they could also do a Later Years covering 1988-2013. Here's what I have in mind.
DISC 1: Behind the Mask (+ tracks from sessions) DISC 2: Time (+ tracks recorded before Warners forced Christine's involvement - I'm sure there must be some - and World Cup version of Blow By Blow). DISC 3: The Dance DISC 4: Say You Will DISC 5: Non-album cuts as follows (order flexible) 1. As Long as You Follow 2. No Questions Asked 3. Paper Doll 4. Lizard People (not currently commercially available) 5. Love Shines 6. Heart of Stone 7. Make Me a Mask 8. Not Make Believe 9. Love Minus Zero/No Limit 10. Sad Angel 11. Without You 12. It Takes Time 13. Miss Fantasy 14. Gold Dust Woman (The Dance DVD version) 15. Over My Head (Dance DVD) 16. Gypsy (Dance DVD) 17. Songbird (Dance DVD) 18. Go Insane (Dance DVD) 19. Peacekeeper (Live@AOL version) 20. Smile At You (Live@AOL version) Live in Boston DVD |
It's an interesting songs content. However it's like combining different bands. I know many people consider the rhythm section (M+J) as the "glue" of Fleetwood Mac, but in my personal opinion it is not enough. Listening Time and SYW songs together is kind of weird.
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I agree this release will not happen. If any other “box” releases it could be .. Behind the Mask Time Dance/ Say You Will |
DISC 3: The Dance
DISC 5: Non-album cuts as follows (order flexible) ... 14. Gold Dust Woman (The Dance DVD version) 15. Over My Head (Dance DVD) 16. Gypsy (Dance DVD) 17. Songbird (Dance DVD) 18. Go Insane (Dance DVD) So, there's an overlap of these songs? Nice idea, but this too far-fetched. GJK |
I’d just make The Dance a two disc set.
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Wasn't Go Your Own Way edited too from the original concert version? Or maybe it was The Chain? Or maybe I'm getting confused and thinking about one of the re-released greatest hits versions?
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Both songs are on both formats. I don't know about any edited versions.
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Say You Will box set would be great.
CD 1 Original version CD 2 B sides/ Alternative tracks from unreleased double album DVD concert full Boston live show DVD 5.1 audio surround sound Vinyl album |
Considering that THE DANCE was a number one album and that the CD was always a shortened track list, it seems bizarre that, in twenty-three years, it has never been repackaged more completely or been transferred to Blu-ray. I don't know whether it was originally filmed on celluloid and I have heard that a high-definition release is impossible. What I hear is that film stock can be upgraded to high-def or UHD but that digital shoots can't.
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But I know, you just want the Blu-ray version of Not That Funny to show your friends |
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The screaming...all that ridiculous SCREAMING. "We'll watch this with you, as long as you fast forward through that one song!":lol::lol::lol: |
But which "full Mirage show"? Not the LA video - I've seen it already. Wouldn't you rather have a film of the performance at Joe Louis in Detroit, or at the Meadowlands, or the Oakland Coliseum, or McNichols in Denver - all great, great shows that you could discover afresh? Even the show at Irvine Meadows seemed more tightly packed with great, haunting moments than LA. Truthfully, LA felt to me like an also-ran to Irvine (which was about a week or two earlier) and to Oakland the night before. The tour had many highlights, but the stuff that wound up on the sloppy, vibe-killing video didn't capture enough of them.
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If any of them were professionally shot then of course, they would be fantastic. But even in 1982 groups hammed it up for a recording. Didn't someone say in the LA Mirage show that part of Christine's keyboards were prop for the cameras? I cant even watch the lip syncing of the Mac's 1988 "live" show and Stevie's Red Rocks. |
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Tango is the only FM video I don't own(well, I think I have it on VHS somewhere). I can't stand 90% of it. All those stupid closeups. What kind of egomaniac hires a "closeup director"? |
Imo the Mirage and Tango concerts released on VHS and or DVD were terrible. Mirage has some good moments but Stevie's voice is so nasal it is pretty much unlistenable. I do love her SOTM performance. With the Tango concert I hate the closeups and the dumb backstage shots. The band is performing and yet they spend time backstage during a song to show the band horsing around or whatever. It is stupid.
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Does anyone know if other bands ever did this? This is the most ridiculous thing ever. Think about it. They recorded a live show for distribution yet gave the fans a lip synced concert aka video performance. And why edit a concert down to 58 minutes. They did concert footage medley for Songbird and then the credits ran for only the audio version of Dont Stop. Marty Callner directed it who was a mainstay of 1980s videos and concerts. My pet peeve: Stevie and her HUGE earrings during Gold Dust Woman when she would turn to the camera for a close up to say "OH YEAH" is so unrock n roll And you just loved Mick's body performance. HELP ME |
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I'm now "friends" with Marty, but I ain't axing him? Anyone? Bueller? WHY do people worship her? I'll never understand. $he's such an idiot. |
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One of the coolest parts of the concert is when the camera on the opposite side of the stage is zoomed in on Christine while she is singing her heart out during the Chain. The same camera then loses focus (gets blurry) to then focus on Stevie (clear focus again). That is something you would NEVER see today. It was the way to capture both singers without moving the camera. Today they would just use 2 automatic cameras zooming around the stage and it would be edited together. Looking back, what a cool effect IMHO. People actually had to focus cameras. Imagine that! |
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I have always loved the 1982 Meadowlands and the Detroit concerts on audience tape. There are not of course enormous differences between performances in the span of a five-week tour. There are smaller but still prominent differences in band tightness and adventurousness (especially from Mick and his fills) and certainly in Stevie's and Christine's vocals. I have long thought that the band filmed the wrong shows in 1982 - and 1987 and 2003 and . . . . You need to film a number of shows on a tour and settle on the best. Actually, if you have Fleetwood Mac's budget, you should film twenty shows. I think that the band just didn't give a damn about recording concerts for posterity and those few products were an afterthought or were scrambled together by the band's assistants. The ugly, ill-lit footage from the Forum in 1982 is a case in point: How could a superstar band who created such lovely promo videos that year that advanced the art also release a feature-length concert video that looks as if it were shot by a local spot-news crew just passing by? And the audio - which couldn't even be cleaned up well for a deluxe Mirage release a few years ago - was atrocious. It was like a home recording of a kid in the sports arena audience. |
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IMHO there was something magical about the Mirage shows and the darkness added to the mood. But from what I have seen of the Tusk shows, they were also quite dark. I dont think until the 80s did bands do the full lighting at concerts. |
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In some cases, the Deluxe Version of Mirage is worse than the VHS I used to listen to on headphones back in 1982/3. |
Ahem why are we talking about Tusk and Mirage in the post-Rumours section? This thread was about the potential for a remastered anthology of the post-Tango albums.
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I made a temporary one for Behind the Mask a while back that I have on my iTunes library.
Disc One - The Album Disc Two - Rarities 01 In the Back of My Mind (Single Edit) 02 Save Me (Single Edit) 03 Paper Doll 04 Love Shines 05 Desiree 06 It Ain't Over 07 As Long As You Follow 08 No Questions Asked 09 Intuition 10 Heart of Stone 11 Lizard People Disc Three - Live: Part 1 (Various Dates 88-90) 01 In the Back of My Mind 02 The Chain 03 Dreams 04 Isn't It Midnight 05 Oh Well 06 Rhiannon 07 Stop Messin' Around 08 Seven Wonders 09 Save Me 10 Gold Dust Woman 11 I Loved Another Woman 12 Landslide Disc Four - Live: Part 2 (Various Dates 88-90) 01 Rattlesnake Shake 02 Everywhere 03 Stand On The Rock 04 Say You Love Me 05 World Turning 06 Little Lies 07 Blue Letter 08 Stand Back 09 You Make Lovin Fun 10 Go Your Own Way 11 Tear It Up 12 Don't Stop |
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Great list. I would love those live tracks. That band rocked! |
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I’m sure the Dance will get the Deluxe Edition treatment on its own; Say You Will I’m not so sure. I mean, it’s already pretty much a double album, so I don’t think there was much left off. |
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For BTM, I’d love to see something like what they did with Eric Clapton’s first solo album. Disc 1 was the original mix while disc 2 was the Delaney Bramlett re-mix.
Disc 1 would be the regular mix, and maybe have Ken do a remix for disc 2. Disc 3 would be outtakes, demos, etc. Maybe a disc 4 of live songs. |
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I Am Waiting, My Heart, and whatever other outtakes shoulda been on there. Also the cover stinks. Looks like a drape or wallpaper sample |
FleetwoodMac.com is selling Then Play On, Say You Will and the popular Fab 5 records. No BTM or Time. Too bad I'd actually like to get Time.
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BTM might be a collectible too in the U.S.A. Probably would need to buy an import from Europe of if I wanted a copy. BTM should've gotten reissued as vinyl in 2018, but they went ahead with reissuing vinyl for Dance and SYM. I guess bc those sold better?
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