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Villavic 06-23-2021 01:08 PM

What song would you have shortened or excluded
 
So in 1987 the Tusk album was released in CD for the first time (or so I read) and "it featured the edited 4:37 version of Sara which leaves out the middle verse and musical bridge". Didn't find the reason but I guess it was because of technical limitations at that time (already resolved nowadays). I got the CD in 1992 (before that I had the tape that didn't sound that good). So I was really upset about finding Sara shortened.

So do you agree with that decision, and if not, what song would you have cut or deleted? Probably, as fans, we would have preferred a double cd edition, but let's suppose, for this poll, there were just those 3 options.

David 06-23-2021 01:49 PM

I voted to shorten “Sisters of the Moon” instead of “Sara.” You could lop off the second verse of the former and save a minute or so, or you could lop off the transitional verse (“Some call her sister of the moon. . .”). Would I want to ideally? No. But better to cut that than “Sara” for the album’s atmosphere and mystery, to which “Sara” makes the greater contribution. Editing “Sara” was like wresting it out of the sea of love and hauling it onto dry land. The album is the most sensual thing that configuration ever did — I bet countless people have made love to “Sara.” But who would make love to “Sisters of the Moon”? Thump-thump-thump in 4/4 isn’t what you’d call erotic, even though it has other powers (Jim Ladd used to say it had “totemic” power as a symbol of Stevie Nicks). “Sara” is water bound, “Sisters” is earth bound. “Sara” is chthonic fertility, “Sisters” is seasonal crop yield. “Sara” is oysters on the half shell, “Sisters” is standing rib roast (with a mustard peppercorn crust). “Sara” is a mermaid, “Sisters” is a yeti. “Sara” is Bed, Bath, and Beyond, “Sisters” is Hobby Lobby.

Macfan4life 06-23-2021 03:50 PM

Everyone will flame me on the Ledge if I say, The Ledge could have been removed from the album Tusk. Its still my least favorite of the album. I don't hate it as much as I used to but after a fresh listen to Tusk in its entirety last month, I learned its still my least favorite song on the album.
I dont think any Tusk songs are unusually long.

bombaysaffires 06-23-2021 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1267906)
Everyone will flame me on the Ledge if I say, The Ledge could have been removed from the album Tusk. Its still my least favorite of the album. I don't hate it as much as I used to but after a fresh listen to Tusk in its entirety last month, I learned its still my least favorite song on the album.
I dont think any Tusk songs are unusually long.

The Ledge is such great Lindsey-hating-on-Stevie and it's got bounce and pep.
I'd vote to get rid of Save Me a Place.

jbrownsjr 06-23-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1267906)
Everyone will flame me on the Ledge if I say, The Ledge could have been removed from the album Tusk. Its still my least favorite of the album. I don't hate it as much as I used to but after a fresh listen to Tusk in its entirety last month, I learned its still my least favorite song on the album.
I dont think any Tusk songs are unusually long.

Just another reason to flame on you! I love that song!!

HomerMcvie 06-23-2021 09:49 PM

The Ledge is awesomeness!

I'd vote to LENGTHEN Think About Me, and shorten Sara, and kick Storms off the album.

DownOnRodeo 06-24-2021 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1267899)
“Sara” is chthonic fertility, “Sisters” is seasonal crop yield. [...] “Sara” is a mermaid, “Sisters” is a yeti. “

:laugh:


I would speed up That's All For Everyone and Walk A Thin Line to 1.5 speed (try it on YouTube), making them more accessible and shaving off the 2 minutes or so needed for Sara to do her drowning in full and rightful glory.

But if Lindsey wouldn't have that, I vote to boot Never Make Me Cry instead. Doubt Christine would shed any tears: "Go and do what you want. I'll be alright." The track as it appears on the album is an airy afterthought, an echo of Songbird, like something they threw together after their studio lease had expired and the crew and instruments were half out the door. I'd miss the instrumental bridge but that's about it.

Macfan4life 06-24-2021 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1267914)
The Ledge is awesomeness!

I'd vote to LENGTHEN Think About Me, and shorten Sara, and kick Storms off the album.

I vote to add a longer version of Oh Daddy to the album. A much longer instrumental ending version. Maybe as long as Stairway to Heaven or something.

You would have to ask Christine to add a longer second verse to Think About Me. The song works perfect the way that it is.
Not a coincidence IMHO that the best song Think about me is along side the worst song The Ledge. After listening to the WTF song, the conventional Think About Me starts right up.

Question: When you grew up in Indiana, did you bale hay to the song The Ledge? I picture someone in long overalls with a piece of hay in the corner of their mouth feeding the livestock to the song. Could that possibly be you?

Feather Blade 06-24-2021 08:44 AM

If one had to go, I'd definitely cut Not That Funny. Easy decision for me.

HomerMcvie 06-24-2021 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1267924)

Question: When you grew up in Indiana, did you bale hay to the song The Ledge? I picture someone in long overalls with a piece of hay in the corner of their mouth feeding the livestock to the song. Could that possibly be you?

I ain't never baled no hay. Most of my cousins have, though. They called me "college boy".

aleuzzi 06-24-2021 09:34 PM

They did it right: they shortened the one song that was already shortened on the 45 single. It wasn’t ideal but all the other songs, regardless of the varying quality, needed to be on that early cd release.

jbrownsjr 07-08-2021 11:21 AM

I do love Sara, but I never even noticed it was shortened.

aleuzzi 07-08-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1268061)
I do love Sara, but I never even noticed it was shortened.

They left out the “Hold on, the night is coming…” section :(

But they made the right decision. No other song on the album should have been sacrificed.

jbrownsjr 07-08-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1268061)
I do love Sara, but I never even noticed it was shortened.

(until I looked at the album's/cd's running track times)

Macfan4life 07-09-2021 03:37 AM

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the full version of Sara appear on the Greatest Hits album? I remember this discussion when the band appeared on Rockline in 1988.
The full version is on the album but in the primitive early days of CD, they could not fit all the songs on Tusk so they shortened Sara.


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