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mylittledemon 07-16-2008 07:28 PM

The Plan
 
break the power of foreign oil?

Interesting stuff...

http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/

strandinthewind 07-16-2008 07:45 PM

Amen!!!!!

I also think a few more large damn's for hydroelectric power would be a good idea.

http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/wuhy.html

I think, though perhaps not as efficient, solar energy is a great idea as well.

Unlike oil or any other fossil fuels, these resources are limitless and comparatively free.

As I have said, we can drill for oil all we want, but it will never be enough or soon enough. I say end the reliance on the Middle East in the next ten years instead of drilling for oil now that will see production of a tiny percentage of the US' power demands in the next ten years. To me, this a given. But, the oil lobby is large ad powerful.

Musicman408 07-16-2008 10:20 PM

I think T. Boone Pickens needs to run for president~:nod:

Cuz I'm really not interested in paying over $4 for gas.

strandinthewind 07-17-2008 12:06 PM

July 18, 2008
Gore Wants U.S. to Abandon Fossil Fuels by 2018
By DAVID STOUT
WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Al Gore said on Thursday that Americans must abandon fossil fuels within a decade and rely on the sun, the winds and other environmentally friendly sources of power, or risk losing their national security as well as their creature comforts.

“The survival of the United States of America as we know it is at risk,” Mr. Gore said in a speech to an energy conference here. He called for the kind of concerted national effort that enabled Americans to walk on the moon 39 years ago this month, just eight years after President John F. Kennedy famously embraced that goal.

Mr. Gore said the goal of producing all of the nation’s electricity from “renewable energy and truly clean, carbon-free sources” within 10 years is not some farfetched vision, although he said it would require fundamental changes in political thinking and personal expectations.

“This goal is achievable, affordable and transformative,” Mr. Gore said in remarks prepared for the conference. “It represents a challenge to all Americans, in every walk of life — to our political leaders, entrepreneurs, innovators, engineers, and to every citizen.”

Although Mr. Gore has made global warming and energy conservation his signature issues, winning a Nobel Prize for his efforts, his speech on Thursday argued that the reasons for renouncing fossil fuels go far beyond concern for the climate.

In it, he cited military-intelligence studies warning of “dangerous national security implications” tied to climate change, including the possibility of “hundreds of millions of climate refugees” causing instability around the world, and said the United States is dangerously vulnerable because of its reliance on foreign oil.

Doubtless aware that his remarks would be met with skepticism, or even ridicule, in some quarters, Mr. Gore insisted in his speech that the goal of carbon-free power is not only achievable but practical, and that businesses would embrace it once they saw that it made fundamental economic sense.

Mr. Gore said the most important policy change in the transformation would be taxes on carbon dioxide production, with an accompanying reduction in payroll taxes. “We should tax what we burn, not what we earn,” his prepared remarks said.

The former vice president said in his speech that he could not recall a worse confluence of problems facing the country: higher gasoline prices, jobs being “outsourced,” the home mortgage industry in turmoil. “Meanwhile, the war in Iraq continues, and now the war in Afghanistan appears to be getting worse,” he said.

By calling for new political leadership and speaking disdainfully of “defenders of the status quo,” Mr. Gore was hurling a dart at the man who defeated him for the presidency in 2000, George W. Bush. Critics of Mr. Bush say that his policies are too often colored by his background in the oil business.

“But even those who reap the profits of the carbon age have to recognize the inevitability of its demise,” Mr. Gore said in his speech. “As one OPEC oil minister observed, ‘The Stone Age didn’t end because of a shortage of stones.’ ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/us...0Mf62rSi1n4AlQ

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Let's see how long it takes Fox News to attack Gore as the messenger (he is not green enough) in order to keep people from recognizing the truth in his message. In other words, Gore can be the largest hypocrite in the world, but his message is true even if Fox thinks his actions do not support his speech.

I often wonder how much the oil and auto lobbyests pay for such trashing. Of course, at the price of oil per barrell, it is pennies on the dollar.


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