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jbrownsjr 05-14-2020 09:13 PM

I imagine she and Mick having some time together, going through ALL the albums, spending the day together. And I could see them saying, "Oh wow, that's really apropos to what we are about to do." (All Over Again)

I honestly feel like she and Mick talked in Italy about the forthcoming axe.
How could they not? They both really had grown so tired of Lindsey.

Christine wasn't there for 15 years. She and Lindsey were in reunion mode. They aren't going to include her on that information. Especially, while she's touring with Lindsey.

SteveMacD 05-14-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1258063)
I honestly feel like she and Mick talked in Italy about the forthcoming axe.
How could they not? They both really had grown so tired of Lindsey.

The RS interview was dated Aug. 28, about a month after the Classic shows...

While I have zero doubt that Lindsey was firmly on their sh*tlist, Tom Petty was still alive and the tense November tour negotiations hadn’t yet happened. I don’t know if they had planned on firing him them, per se, but I imagine they were planning on reining in Lindsey’s role as musical director and asserting themselves in terms of setlists.

Neil Finn was already on Mick’s radar by then, so maybe. It’s ironic that they connected sometime around the last OWTS shows.

jbrownsjr 05-15-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1258064)
The RS interview was dated Aug. 28, about a month after the Classic shows...

While I have zero doubt that Lindsey was firmly on their sh*tlist, Tom Petty was still alive and the tense November tour negotiations hadn’t yet happened. I don’t know if they had planned on firing him them, per se, but I imagine they were planning on reining in Lindsey’s role as musical director and asserting themselves in terms of setlists.

Neil Finn was already on Mick’s radar by then, so maybe. It’s ironic that they connected sometime around the last OWTS shows.

Yes, I was sort of joking about the foreshadowing.

But, in a way I think this was the birth of... "wouldn't it be great if we could have some freedom from LB running the band. Listen to all of these great songs we could be playing... What if, Mick? What if?? " In my head, something like that happens.

SteveMacD 05-15-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1258069)
Yes, I was sort of joking about the foreshadowing.

But, in a way I think this was the birth of... "wouldn't it be great if we could have some freedom from LB running the band. Listen to all of these great songs we could be playing... What if, Mick? What if?? " In my head, something like that happens.

I mostly agree, although I don’t think it even got to “what if,” given he spent a lot of that summer promoting his coffee table book on the 67-74 versions of the band.

jbrownsjr 05-15-2020 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1258074)
I mostly agree, although I don’t think it even got to “what if,” given he spent a lot of that summer promoting his coffee table book on the 67-74 versions of the band.

Maybe.. maybe not.. but I was saying that either one of them could have said in Italy. "Is there a way way we could continue without Linsdey?" But that of course is pure speculation on my part. in my mind, that final decision had to be brewing a while. Even if the pieces fell into place later on.

David 05-18-2020 11:30 AM

Lots of supposition! I think “All Over Again” was Christine’s own offering for the tour. I bet she relistened to Time around that point as she was reconnecting with her own musical legacy. I bet it was her idea, too, to perform “Get Like You Used to Be” in Hawaii before she rejoined. The music bug bit her again and she sifted through all her old material. Musically speaking, she’s been in a great mental space because she enjoyed writing new stuff for Fleetwood Mac or Buckingham McVie and pulling stuff out of mothballs for performance (like “Wish You Were Here”).

If Christine goes back on the road with Fleetwood or Lindsey, I bet we could hear “Sooner or Later” or “Prove Your Love” or whatever. Despite her deterioration or whatever you’d call it, she is afire again with music!

michelej1 05-18-2020 01:12 PM

It’s not surprising to me that they would do this song. They did DLMDA after Lindsey left in 1987. There’s a point to it and I think that it is a song Stevie would choose. To tell you the truth, Christine doesn’t seem that interested in certain songs she’s written, no matter how good they are. She promotes this song when it first comes out and then she seemingly forgets about it.

Believe me, if I went up to Stevie and Christine snd said “Hollywood some other kind of town,” I would get the same blank stares from both of them. Equally blank. I don’t think Christine has amnesia. I think she remembers this song if she wants to. She’s just not that interested.

jbrownsjr 05-19-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1258115)
It’s not surprising to me that they would do this song. They did DLMDA after Lindsey left in 1987. There’s a point to it and I think that it is a song Stevie would choose. To tell you the truth, Christine doesn’t seem that interested in certain songs she’s written, no matter how good they are. She promotes this song when it first comes out and then she seemingly forgets about it.

Believe me, if I went up to Stevie and Christine snd said “Hollywood some other kind of town,” I would get the same bank stares from both of them. Equally blank. I don’t think Christine has amnesia. I think she remembers this song if she wants to. She’s just not that interested.

Haha!! You could walk up to Stevie and go, "Freedom!!!" and Christine wouldn't go ahhaaaaaaaaaaaa... " I'm sure of it. ;)

jbrownsjr 05-19-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1258146)
You could walk up to Stevie and say “I don’t want to know” and she’d try to look like she really didn’t know. But she does.

She would say, "I knew prince way better than anyone!! So shut up, Michele!!" :D

michelej1 05-19-2020 07:05 PM

You could walk up to Stevie and say “I don’t want to know” and she’d try to look like she really didn’t know. But she does.

Lindsey was going through this thing where he was trying to do a rare Tusk song for each tour. So, he went through Storms and Beautiful Child. If they’d stayed together he would have gotten Chris to do her mothballed stuff. My choice would be Honey Hi, with Mick coming down to the floor with them for drums.

aleuzzi 05-19-2020 09:15 PM

I’m convinced performing “All Over Again” was Stevie’s idea. As loopy and narcissistic as she is, choosing this tune from an album without Lindsey’s participation was a very calculated move. And it paid off. From what I saw on YouTube clips (I refused to see this incarnation live in person) the song was a wise choice. They both sounded good and it was an ideal “first” for them: a Christine and Stevie duet. That novelty was highlighted as a way of telling the world they didn’t need Lindsey to do exciting things on stage. I believe they were largely wrong in that assumption, but AOA really did work.

And no: I don’t think Chris really thought about the song after she’d recorded its.

michelej1 05-19-2020 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1258152)
I’m convinced performing “All Over Again” was Stevie’s idea. As loopy and narcissistic as she is, choosing this tune from an album without Lindsey’s participation was a very calculated move. And it paid off. From what I saw on YouTube clips (I refused to see this incarnation live in person) the song was a wise choice. They both sounded good and it was an ideal “first” for them: a Christine and Stevie duet. That novelty was highlighted as a way of telling the world they didn’t need Lindsey to do exciting things on stage. I believe they were largely wrong in that assumption, but AOA really did work.

And no: I don’t think Chris really thought about the song after she’d recorded its.

I agree with you. It’s exactly like DLMDA. Message to LB. If Stevie did not know AOA herself, she asked Mick for a suitable song suggestion and he gave that one to her, because he certainly knew it.

jmn3 05-20-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1258152)
I’m convinced performing “All Over Again” was Stevie’s idea. As loopy and narcissistic as she is, choosing this tune from an album without Lindsey’s participation was a very calculated move. And it paid off. From what I saw on YouTube clips (I refused to see this incarnation live in person) the song was a wise choice. They both sounded good and it was an ideal “first” for them: a Christine and Stevie duet. That novelty was highlighted as a way of telling the world they didn’t need Lindsey to do exciting things on stage. I believe they were largely wrong in that assumption, but AOA really did work.

And no: I don’t think Chris really thought about the song after she’d recorded its.

I am with you on this 100%. She is a froot loop but there's too much obvious calculation in this for your post to not be true.

HomerMcvie 05-20-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1258152)
I’m convinced performing “All Over Again” was Stevie’s idea. As loopy and narcissistic as she is, choosing this tune from an album without Lindsey’s participation was a very calculated move. And it paid off. From what I saw on YouTube clips (I refused to see this incarnation live in person) the song was a wise choice. They both sounded good and it was an ideal “first” for them: a Christine and Stevie duet. That novelty was highlighted as a way of telling the world they didn’t need Lindsey to do exciting things on stage. I believe they were largely wrong in that assumption, but AOA really did work.

And no: I don’t think Chris really thought about the song after she’d recorded its.

I agree also. Queen of the passive aggressive narcissists guided the knife carefully.

jbrownsjr 05-20-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1258160)
I agree also. Queen of the passive aggressive narcissists guided the knife carefully.

What did you call me???? :]


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