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BlueDenimLamp 11-23-2013 11:32 PM

Peter Green #58 on Rolling Stone poll
 
It's interesting that Peter Green ranks #58 in Rolling Stones "100 Greatest Guitarists" while Lindsey Buckingham only ranks #100

Rolling Stones "100 Greatest Guitarists"

Rubber Duck 11-24-2013 04:23 AM

Peter should have been rated much higher, of course.
Maybe he would have if he had stopped recording in 1972...
His later recordings somewhat "destroys" his reputation, perhaps?

chriskisn 11-25-2013 11:21 PM

There is almost no doubt that Peter should be, if not in the top 10, then certainly the top 20 guitarists of all time.

I'msoAfraid95 11-25-2013 11:24 PM

Both of them should've been much higher, like top 30.

Edit: They chose a pretty bad picture of Peter.

Wouter Vuijk 11-26-2013 08:20 PM

The trouble with these ratings: Judges seem to make their ratings according to the rate of success/influence as a musician. I've gone through this top 100, and just to show what I mean:
John Lee Hooker(35), a FANTASTIC bluesman with a great impact, but as guitarist better than Ritchie Blackmore (50), let alone Peter Green (58) ????
And there are many more examples.

Ms Moose 11-28-2013 12:39 PM

These ratings always makes me wonder, from which criteria "greatest" is measured. How do you measure "greatness"? All these guitarists are very different, and good and bad for different reasons. It seems like famousness (can you say that in english?), influence and impact in the musicindustri rules these ratings more than anything else.
I agree that picture is not very well chosen, and the text doesn't make any sense as to why PG is no.58, what was special about him compared to others and why he is on this list.

Ms Moose:angel:

shackin'up 11-29-2013 08:31 AM

All bull****, these lists.

Fidget 11-30-2013 08:57 PM

Just goes to show how wrong even Rolling Stone can get it.

Mojo placed Peter Green in the top 3 which would be more accurate.

And another thing... I always understood musicians themselves were against making up definitive things like league tables to judge each other...

I guess it makes good copy to say so and so thinks that so it must be right.

Wouter Vuijk 12-01-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidget (Post 1112774)
And another thing... I always understood musicians themselves were against making up definitive things like league tables to judge each other...

I guess it makes good copy to say so and so thinks that so it must be right.

:thumbsup:

SisterNightroad 01-23-2015 01:22 PM

I don't know if this has already been posted but I just discovered that in 2011 along with the "standard" top 100 greatest guitarists of all time, Rolling stone published the personal top 100 guitarists of David Fricke:

38
Peter Green



Many six-string devotees — including fellows named Carlos and B.B. — insist that Britain's greatest blues guitarist isn't Clapton or Beck, it's Peter Green. In the Sixties, first with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, then as the original frontman for Fleetwood Mac (long before Stevie Nicks entered the picture), Green played with a fire and fluidity that's rarely been matched. But in 1970, with the Mac on the verge of super-stardom, Green quit the band, saying he needed to escape the evils of fame. It was the beginning of a long, drug-fueled breakdown that would include stints in mental institutions and on the street. Miraculously, Green recovered and took up guitar again in the mid-Nineties; though his leads aren't as authoritative now, the spirit of a true survivor is in every note.



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/li...#ixzz3Pfc2XImi

becca 01-23-2015 02:50 PM

I'm imagining Seven Of Nine from Star Trek saying "Rolling Stone is irrelevant." :lol:

David Fricke is pretty knowledgeable however and says intelligent things on many DVDs I've gotten. All the lists-making really puts me off many of these major magazines though, it seems so pointless trying to classify and rank. Does every 'voter' know well Django Rhinehardt, Hubert Sumlin, Davy Graham, Les Paul, Tiny Grimes, Big Jim Sullivan, Chet Atkins and John Cipollina? I'm sure there are many people for whom Eddie Van Halen is the greatest who've never looked into much in the way of variety across long periods of time.

SisterNightroad 01-23-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by becca (Post 1158981)
I'm imagining Seven Of Nine from Star Trek saying "Rolling Stone is irrelevant." :lol:

David Fricke is pretty knowledgeable however and says intelligent things on many DVDs I've gotten. All the lists-making really puts me off many of these major magazines though, it seems so pointless trying to classify and rank. Does every 'voter' know well Django Rhinehardt, Hubert Sumlin, Davy Graham, Les Paul, Tiny Grimes, Big Jim Sullivan, Chet Atkins and John Cipollina? I'm sure there are many people for whom Eddie Van Halen is the greatest who've never looked into much in the way of variety across long periods of time.

Of course lists don't mean a thing, sometimes these things are being taken too seriously, we should all learn to take them as a fun occasion of debate.
Rolling Stone lists have written on the first page the names of the people in the "jury", that usually are affirmed and famous musicians as well. In the top 100 of the guitarists the voters are:

Trey Anastasio,
Dan Auerbach (The Black Keys)
Brian Bell (Weezer)
Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple)
Carl Broemel (My Morning Jacket)
James Burton
Jerry Cantrell (Alice in Chains)
Gary Clark Jr.
Billy Corgan
Steve Cropper
Dave Davies (The Kinks)
Anthony DeCurtis (Contributing editor, Rolling Stone)
Tom DeLonge (Blink-182)
Rick Derringer
Luther Dickinson (North Mississippi Allstars)
Elliot Easton (The Cars)
Melissa Etheridge
Don Felder (The Eagles)
David Fricke (Senior writer, Rolling Stone)
Peter Guralnick (Author)
Kirk Hammett (Metallica)
Albert Hammond Jr. (The Strokes)
Warren Haynes (The Allman Brothers Band)
Brian Hiatt (Senior writer, Rolling Stone)
David Hidalgo (Los Lobos)
Jim James (My Morning Jacket)
Lenny Kravitz
Robby Krieger (The Doors)
Jon Landau (Manager)
Alex Lifeson (Rush)
Nils Lofgren (The E Street Band)
Mick Mars (Mötley Crüe)
Doug Martsch (Built to Spill)
J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.)
Brian May
Mike McCready (Pearl Jam)
Roger McGuinn (The Byrds)
Scotty Moore, Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth)
Tom Morello
Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
Brendan O’Brien (Producer)
Joe Perry
Vernon Reid (Living Colour)
Robbie Robertson, Rich Robinson (The Black Crowes)
Carlos Santana
Kenny Wayne Shepherd
Marnie Stern
Stephen Stills
Andy Summers
Mick Taylor
Susan Tedeschi
Vieux Farka Touré
Derek Trucks
Eddie Van Halen
Joe Walsh
Nancy Wilson (Heart)

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/li...#ixzz3Pg0xKiwu

THD 01-24-2015 01:02 PM

They ask the judges the wrong question in these polls .

It should be :

In a list of the best guitarists of all time in Rock Music ,on a scale of one to two ,where would you place Peter Green? !

sharksfan2000 01-24-2015 01:39 PM

All these "best of" and "favorite" polls and lists are of no value or interest at all to me.

"Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to."

SisterNightroad 01-24-2015 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharksfan2000 (Post 1159084)
All these "best of" and "favorite" polls and lists are of no value or interest at all to me.

"Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to."

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