Fake Fur?
 

I usually just accept everything she does whether it's clothing, hair styles, song choices etc. She can do no wrong in my eyes. But I cannot seem to get passed the fur coat. So please someone who was there confirm it was fake. Being a vegan and semi animal rights activist (meaning I dont go throwing paint on people wearing furs) I was dissapointed.

Anyone who knows me will tell you I definately ADORE her. I've actually gotten into arguments with people who knock her I just thought she was more sensitive. Would she make a hat from one her dogs fur/hair? Same thing. Whether an animal is a pet or not it's still a living, breathing creature. Those minks suffer inexcusably to lose their skin. Im just hurt by her wearing fur.

Stevie's coat was most definitely fake so worry no longer!

Oh, I just asked the same question on a different thread. I too am hoping it was fake fur. It might have been a good idea to just wear something else and not trigger the questions.

Thanks Phil and not to dwell but how can u tell......ooh that rhymes..... Also

It's just that my mother has 2 fur coats she no longer wears because I told her, I will not go out in public with her if she wears one of those things. I guess she kinda saw the light

I felt the fur yesterday and believe me, it was real.

Yea,she's all about the fur coats right...since a long time ago.I'm not big on fur,but,honestly,if Stevie Nicks wants to wear a real fur coat,I am not going to lose sleep over it:)

I agree...there are older pictures of Stevie wearing fur.

And I really doubt that Stevie would have "fake" anything. Remember her saying that she knew "when she was a child" that shopping at JC Penny was not for her. lol

She responded to a fan question about jewelry saying that she didn't know what piece the fan was asking about, she had lots of "fake jewelry".

I bet her "fake" stuff cost more than any of my real stuff! :D

susieq

i'll bet she skinned the little fluffy chinchilas herself !!!:]

LMAO,you always know just what to say Tommer :)

Can't say I have a problem with people wearing real fur.

Fake fur is so cheap! :)

maybe it's one of her old ones she bought a long time ago?

N.

It's just that with all these celebrities coming out about fur and some of them are boobheads, I would feel Stevie (being far superior to them), would think they made some sense.

Believe me I spent an hour chatting with her in a hotel bar in 1996 and she was so grounded and real, I dunno, I was a little dissapointed, but that does not diminish how I feel about her or her music.

An hour chatting? About what? Please, do tell!

Nae

THREAD IDEA!! LOL
 

That's something to discuss...whether you would stop liking FM/Stevie/Lindsey if they did something you DID NOT agree with? Hmm....interesting. ;)

I don't really care about the fur issue personally, but I think fur, fake or real, is just really not cool, I mean, I thought that became politically incorrect and tacky in the 80's?! What's next, is Stevie gonna put a confederate flag on her next album (or charge WAY too much money for her concerts?! :mad: ). Not horrible, but way TACKY.

Evan

Yea,well,when has Stevie ever really bowed to fashion trends??

Who cares if something has been dubbed politically incorrect or not? If Stevie wants to wear real fur, more power to her! Lindsey is wearing leather jackets and I guess leather pants. I eat meat myself. I sure hope that has not become "politically incorrect".:( Heck, I hope it has. I love being a rebel Bill

It just seems like a really bad choice. I thought she wanted no part of political issues? Oh well, it's her right, but it wouldn't be the first time I've been disappointed in Stevie. Actually that article that WindingRoad quoted was a real let down for me.

And Tusk 57 has a point about Lindsey's leather. I suppose it's the idea of something being killed ONLY for its fur. Maybe it would make it better if I could get me some chinchilla burgers at the market or something.

And no, I don't lose sleep over this sort of thing. I just think it's a bad choice. I mean when you think of the myriad of choices available to Stevie Nicks for outerwear during her appearance on the "Today" show to promote the album, why fur? :shrug:

Hey, they are all individuals, like us
 

Different values, etc. Stevie wore a fur, and she is not a vegetarian. But I don't judge her or Lindsey for wearing a leather jacket, or any member for any other difference/value they have that differs from mine. I love their music. I don't want them to be like me, and don't want them to live their lives for me. It's a little late to throw these expectations on anyone in the band isn't it?

Okay, I was surmising but I'm still confident that the coat was fake fur. Stevie has wisened up over the years and surely would realise the outcry wearing fur may incite. Sheryl Crow is anti-fur and the two chicks trade fashion tips on a regular basis. I wasn't actually present to stroke the offending garment but it did appear to resemble cashmere more than fur but who knows?
I think it amusing that there has been so much speculation over this issue when we don't know for sure either way. That said, if it does turn out to be the real deal, I'm with Tommer... I can just see her chasing after the little critters, of course with Lindsey in toe wielding that knife as he chased her through the woods!

Re: Hey, they are all individuals, like us
 

Couldn't have said it better myself Tango. Lindsey has received nothing but praise for choosing to wear a leather jacket ALL the time recently. Our society seems to have some double standard. It's ok to slaughter as many cows as we want to and make jackets, shoes, gloves and hamburgers out of them, but God forbid that we kill a furry oversized rat like creature and make a coat out of it. Frankly, I don't care what they wear. People have the personal freedom to choose whatever they want.

Well lets put it this way Ive read posts from people on this thread who ragged on her for curling her hair because it makes her "look old", "the ends look dead" and whatever the case may be it's her hair! Im ragging on her for wearing a fur coat but alot of you posters have said way worse things about Stevie. Check yourself.

People are in the mindset when they wear fur that they look glamorous, actually it added way to much weight to her frame. Even the skinniest person wearing a fur looks a little dowdy. And when your only 5'1" its just not a good look. Being the fashion icon she is, someone should have said this really isnt working for you. She looked like Nanook from the North. And I have accepted all looks from Stevie. The way overdone linebacker Other Side Of The Mirror look, the Mae West back from the dead look of the Mask tour. But this was just stupid. Sorry.

So in other words you do not think she should have worn a fur simply for a fashion reason, and not for political reasons. I'm fine with that because that is merely your opinion, and I'll respect that. My "beef" is with people who isolate fur as animal cruelty. Frankly though, I was there and I thought she looked radiant, especially when she came out at 5:30 for the sound check and had her hair up in a bun. But I am glad she had the balls to wear something like that if that's what she's into, instead of falling victim to our society's strange mores. But whether you thought she looked good in it or not is just an opinion, and everyone is entitled to that.

Originally posted by MACFAN
She looked like Nanook from the North

I thought she looked warm and toasty. Nanook was no dope.

Here's a quote that I remembered. I thought it worked nicely in this thread.

"The only people with a right to complain about what I do for a living are vegetarian nudists"

-Ken Bates, one of California's 700 licensed fur trappers.

I dont think people who abhor fur coats do so for poltical reasons. As much as I think it's wrong for animals to be slaughtered for food I wouldnt care if someone ate S**t for breakfast, let the body be a burial ground for dead animals. But trapping for fur is just plain wrong. These animals are often left to suffer in these traps for hours, how humiliating. Somtimes they have electrial prods shoved up their butts and are raised just to be killed. Im not a religious person but isn't one of God's commandments, "Thou Shall not Kill"? It does not deferentiate between humans and animals. Believe me I dont even kill bugs.

And Ken Bates is a complete A*****E, he should trap that other moron Ted Nugent.

I just have an idea, maybe I'm on glue or something, who really knows? But, considering that it was what, 38 degrees outside? I think Stevie just wanted to stay warm and couldn't give a damn about what she wore. She probably just wanted to wear what kept her the warmest. Personally, I think the cold is what threw them off on "Today." I thought the performances weren't very good at all, and there were quite a few mess ups on Go Your Own Way. "Today" kind of worried me...the band didn't seem ready to perform live.

LMAO...she did look kinda funny.Like i said before,I am not into animals being killed for fur,but for god's sake,this woman is 55 years old(almost),I don't think there is anyone who could tell her what or what not wear at this point in her life.

Hi MACFAN, Hey, I was with you until you got into Mosiac Law and religion. The Ten Commandments guy/The Biblical Law is all about substitionary atonement, sacrifice (animals at first, including Adam and Eve getting their coats of fur after their Garden of Eden sin). Everyone has their beliefs and many people (not all) have their underpinning beliefs on Judeo Christian traditions, and dont have the same problems with fur and meat dishes. Those writings definitely distinquish between animals and man, and say that man has dominion over the animals. I guess in the food chain, animals aren't ranking as high as man. Hey, animals eat other animals and bugs. It's the way of the universe, although there are clearly those that abhor that way of thinking.

With that, Happy Passover and Happy Easter to those celebrating.

I hope you're all enjoying family, friends and some great new FM music.

Ted Nugent may be a lot of things, but he's no moron. He has to be one of the smartest rock and rollers out there.

Boy, this thread is sure taking a weird twist now. Ted Nugent is now some sort of genius.

Look, here's where I stand: I eat meat and I wear leather. I even sit on leather.

But there is not moral equivalent between taking the skin of an animal that is slaughtered specifically for the skin with taking the skin as a byproduct of slaughtering the animal for nourishment. If leather didn't come from animals we eat, I would have nothing to do with it. Throwing away the hides from an animal you're going to kill anyway would seem wasteful, to my way of thinking.

If Stevie wants to wear fur, that is her business. But I don't like it. It was a very poor choice of outerwear to appear on national TV. Surely she could have worn wool, which is taken from an animal that doesn't have to be slaughtered.

I have great respect for all living things. I abhor the notion of killing an animal in a heartless, painful way just for the skin. If someone did that to my dog, I wouldn't be happy.

I can understand how people feel strongly anti-fur. We, human beings, do very cruel things to not only each other but to many many animals on this planet. So if the activists put Stevie on the spot, she should be ready and able to defend herself.

But I am also vain enough to admit, fur feels great and keeps you warm and snug, it's luxurious and self-indulgent. But why slaughter a fresh animal when you can wear vintage fur. There are many retailers which sell older but no less beautiful coats. Then you can have your cake and eat it too since you now also recycle!!

Hopefully, this is what Stevie has done herself...

See thats what initially got me going, that the animal rights activists will rip her apart in the press. I was more dissapointed than angry with her decision. One time after the innauguration ball she got ripped to shreds by a Giselle Benatar of I think the NY Post(?) who told her to "lose some weight honey". I was so furious I called and actually spoke to Giselle and gave her a piece of my mind.

I know I am coming to this debate late, and I didn't come in to take side, really, but I just wanted to say that I have noticec that fur is making a comeback in Hollywood and on the runways. The last couple of years it has become featured more and more.

Again, I'm not saying it is right or wrong, but it does seem to be coming back into style. If you feel strongly against it, and if there is going to be a backlash about it, there will alot more than Stevie in the line of fire. When I first started seeing new furs in the magazines I was prepared to start hearing alot of debacle about it, but so far there haven't been any real blowups that I have heard of. It made me wonder if it is becoming more acceptable again.

Having said that, I think Stevie's fur looked vintage, real or not. The cut of the jacket looked a little out of style and not in keeping with some of these new ones. If it was real, it was probably an old one.

You know how she hangs on to stuff forever!


If she's gonna get blasted by the press for wearing a real fur, well, you know what they say about publicity!

-Sharon

But besides general curiosity, why should it really matter if it's real or not? Does it make her songs worse if it's real? It's basically a personal choice she's made, and she doesn't have to justify it to anybody. Let's not forget this is a women who's had at least one abortion, and nobody jumps all over her morality for that around here. What's the difference? I'm seriously not trying to antagonize you, just wonderin'... :D

I think I remember seeing a picture of her getting off a plane and into a limo with a fur on...

It even looked like this one.

I bet it is the same one.

-Sharon

As I said, she can wear whatever she likes. I share the opinion that it is disappointing to see her wearing fur. I wish she hadn't. To me, it was distracting. Rather than just sit there and watch the performance, I had to wonder if it was real fur and just what the hell she was thinking.

The difference between her having an abortion lies in the fact that we dont know why she chose to have one. Maybe she thought she would not be a good mother at that point in her life. Maybe the father of the baby said no way. Maybe she did not want to have a child with all the drugs in her system and risk having a child that was mentally retarded or sick or drug addicted itself. Maybe she was advised against going through with the pregancy by a Dr. who saw the writing on the wall. But Fur because it is cold? There are other clothing options. It's 2 different things.

Of course having an abortion and wearing fur are two different things. What they share in common is what I mentioned in my last post - both are considered issues of morality. I'm not trying to justify her abortion or trying to justify her choice to possibly wear fur. I'm trying to ascertain if and why we as a group think that these issues should matter when we are a fan of someone's music. It's kind of like when we were arguing about whether or not Natalie Maine's comment should have had an impact upon her music career.

Gotacha. That makes a lot of sense actually. It was sort of a bold move. Thanks. :thumbsup:

MACFAN, are you going to tell us your story about meeting Ms. Nicks?? you mentioned it earlier in this thread....

"Believe me I spent an hour chatting with her in a hotel bar in 1996 and she was so grounded and real, I dunno, I was a little dissapointed, but that does not diminish how I feel about her or her music."