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CarneVaca 02-04-2003 10:13 AM

Mick's web site
 
I must confess I was sort of down on Mick's web site. I thought it was just some self-adulation endeavour designed to heighten his stature with the Fleetwood Mac-loving world while making a few extra pennies from sales of his life story on video.

Boy, was I wrong!

I don't know how many of you have been over there lately, but man, that site is chockfull of useful information. They even have a link to Sararhiannon's site for the Fox clip with "Say You Will" in the background. How many bands would do that for you? I finally climbed down from my high horse and took a swing by this week. And I was very pleased with what I saw. Mick has graciously and generously taken time from his busy schedule to keep us abreast of his lavish vacations and personal and professional endeavours. Oh, to be a rock star with all the well-deserved trimmings! One can only dream.

And not only that. Did you know Mick contributes to handpicked charities? And he is kind enough to bring his devoted fans along on his philanthropic efforts. I was truly pleased to be informed of this*. How kind of him to want to help out little orphan drummers, and such. Oh, but I jest, since I really don't know what the causes are.

But here's where Mick's site becomes very useful to the fan. I found that if you register by choosing an ID and password, you may become a member of this tight-knit community in a matter of seconds. Hey, even enrolling in your local parish church takes longer than that! So I registered folks, and boy, I had never felt better about doing something on the Net. I had some questions for Mick, for which I eagerly await the answers. I have no doubt that he takes some time out of his workday to read every last word from his devote fans. Here are the questions I've posed (of course I am paraphrasing, but I put a lot more thought into how I worded them on Mick's site; I wanted the questions to be clear and easy to read so he doesn't have to spend more time on them than he has to):

--What charities does he contribute to from the sales of pre-ordered CDs?
--If I disapprove of the causes he has chosen, do I get a discount on my CD pre-order?
--Could Fleetwood Mac check with me before scheduling concerts in New York to make sure I'm available?
--What kind of nail polish does Lindsey use to keep his nails strong?

I have no doubt that he will answer my questions as soon as he humanly can.

*Paraphrased from Jagger/Richards, "Far Away Eyes."

Sorcerer386 02-04-2003 12:38 PM

Sorry, gotta ask...is this whole post sarcastic? Or are you being serious? Of course, the questions pretty much give the answer away, but I just want to make sure. :cool:

celestenadia 02-04-2003 12:50 PM

ROTFL

celestenadia:laugh:

seteca 02-04-2003 12:55 PM

Re: Mick's web site
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca
--Could Fleetwood Mac check with me before scheduling concerts in New York to make sure I'm available?
--What kind of nail polish does Lindsey use to keep his nails strong?

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!:laugh: :laugh:

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

CarneVaca 02-04-2003 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sorcerer386
Sorry, gotta ask...is this whole post sarcastic? Or are you being serious? Of course, the questions pretty much give the answer away, but I just want to make sure. :cool:
Sorcerer, I am genuinely interested in finding out what charities Mick is contributing to. It's about full disclosure.

As for the tenor of my post, well, I'll leave that up to you to decide. ;)

CelesteNadia, that quote at the bottom of your post: Did you write that? I like that a lot.

celestenadia 02-04-2003 02:41 PM

Thank you.
 
Thank you for the comment about the snippet on my signature. Yes, that is
taken from a song I wrote although I'm not nearly as good as I used to be.;)

AliP 02-04-2003 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Sorcerer, I am genuinely interested in finding out what charities Mick is contributing to. It's about full disclosure.


I agree. The first thing I thougt was "What charities?" and "How much is being donated to these charties from each membership to the fan club?"

Dulcimer 02-05-2003 02:28 PM

That's funny. Did you get any answers yet?

CarneVaca 02-06-2003 09:49 AM

No answers yet. I suspect I'm being ignored.

Barbara 02-06-2003 01:58 PM

Very funny!
 
CV - There's nothing funnier (or nastier) than well written sarcasm . . . and as far as Mick's site, you really nailed it.

Thanks for the laugh . . .:laugh:

Barbara

CarneVaca 02-06-2003 04:00 PM

Re: Very funny!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Barbara
CV - There's nothing funnier (or nastier) than well written sarcasm . . . and as far as Mick's site, you really nailed it.

Thanks for the laugh . . .:laugh:

Barbara

Yeah, I think I finally have this whole thing figured out: Make fun of another site ;)

CarneVaca 02-07-2003 02:06 PM

Well, folks, lest anyone carry with the disappointing conclusion that Mick has ignored my questions, rest easy for I received the answer to one question:

Lots of you asking baout the causes Mick supports on the site. A portion of the proceeds will go to The NEA (National Endowment for the Arts) to help their choice of high quality artist outreach and support programs and/or to Music Cares which offers healthcare benefits for musicians who often have no "employer program". Give us a couple of months and we'll give you more details and info on these and others we'll be supporting. To those of you on the boards with three or more stars, please help spread the word about the Poster and the Causes.

More Soon!

The Knight!


What a nice, helpful fellow The Knight is.

seteca 02-09-2003 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca
To those of you on the boards with three or more stars, please help spread the word about the Poster and the Causes.

Wtf does that even mean?? Walk around town with a megaphone??:shrug:

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

CarneVaca 02-11-2003 01:13 PM

Oh, yeah, I got a reply. But not answers. For those, I will have to pay $1,100.

FiercestCalmSea 02-11-2003 01:23 PM

Quote:

Oh, yeah, I got a reply. But not answers. For those, I will have to pay $1,100


LMAO...that board is nuts now..i never posted so much as i have in the last few days...some of those people are insane....I know i should leave it be...but like every time i go over there,there is a new person that irks me and i have to say something,lol...I just flamed some dude named Dino cause he is acting like the Fleetwood Mac police..

Cristian 02-11-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Oh, yeah, I got a reply. But not answers. For those, I will have to pay $1,100.
:laugh: :laugh:

OMG!!! Definitely the laugh of the day. Thanks for the well performed sarcasm, Carne. :)

That Mick site is crazy... And all about handling the album... And The Knight??? Who on Earth is this guy??? Now we have to ADORE and praise him because he's feeding us with small seeds of information every fifteen days???

Oh, this whole thing is just incredibly, amazingly wrong. All wrong.


Song of the moment - Stop Messin' Around

nae 02-11-2003 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cristian
:laugh: :laugh:

OMG!!! Definitely the laugh of the day. Thanks for the well performed sarcasm, Carne. :)

That Mick site is crazy... And all about handling the album... And The Knight??? Who on Earth is this guy??? Now we have to ADORE and praise him because he's feeding us with small seeds of information every fifteen days???

Oh, this whole thing is just incredibly, amazingly wrong. All wrong.


Song of the moment - Stop Messin' Around


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LMAO!

OMG~The whole thing is ridickulous!

Nae

CarneVaca 02-12-2003 04:46 PM

Say whatever you want, Mick's board is getting a lot of activity. Certainly a lot more than here. I guess controversy is a good thing if you want to keep your bulletin board popular.

CarneVaca 02-12-2003 04:47 PM

Oh, by the way, anyone who wants to reply to my last post above, that will cost you $1,100.

madformac 02-12-2003 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Oh, by the way, anyone who wants to reply to my last post above, that will cost you $1,100.
I'll reply CV, however it will cost you $1,100 as well to read my reply, so I guess that makes it quits.

I cannot even stand the sight, or should I say site, of Mick at the moment.

The Knight?

Oh you mean the one that wears all the metal armour to stop anything possibly dangerous getting through and causing discomfort but still manages to carry weapons to inflict maximum damage on others?

Oh, I'm thinking of medieval knights! :rolleyes: Or am I??

This site and it's membership fees has to be the biggest financial insult to my intelligence I think I can remember. Good old Mick.

:wavey:

Livia 02-12-2003 06:12 PM

Madformac said:

Quote:

The Knight?

Oh you mean the one that wears all the metal armour to stop anything possibly dangerous getting through and causing discomfort but still manages to carry weapons to inflict maximum damage on others?

Oh, I'm thinking of medieval knights! Or am I??
I can't resist...maybe he's one of the Knights who says, "NEE!" (sp?)

seteca 02-12-2003 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Livia
I can't resist...maybe he's one of the Knights who says, "NEE!" (sp?)
lol!

It's funny isn't it...Mick said he wants to "get closer to his fans"....so he's employed some condescending jackass who remains nameless and answers only questions which may ultimately result in financial benefit to Mick. What do you want to get closer to Mick...the fans or their money?

CarneVaca, I don't think Mick's site is as buzzing as it first looks. I really do think a large handful of screenames are part of the site's administration team, pretending to be loyal fans. It would certainly explain why the majority of the regular posters there act like they're permanently on speed.
Take the day of the "Meet and Greet" announcement for example: look at the first few posts. They are totally ecstatic at the idea of giving $1,100 away just like that to meet "a couple of members". No questions asked. One sentence posts. And their post count: 1.
There are also other posters there with huge post counts who I also believe are part of the site's team. Their job: to (try to) make other fans think "ooh, that huge fan has decided to pay the gazillion dollars for Mick's underwear, so maybe I should too!:]"

Unfortunately (for them) Mick's management/web administrators seem to have made the critical mistake of thinking that "fan = moron." Sorry, Mick, it ain't so: here's a better idea, when the show comes round to London you pay me $1,100 and I'll put you into a hotel room, arrange transportation for you to your drumkit and in the meantime I'll think about whether or not I should meet you. Deal?:)

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Cristian 02-12-2003 10:07 PM

A $1,100 quote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Say whatever you want, Mick's board is getting a lot of activity. Certainly a lot more than here.
Can't compare quality with quantity. The ones who are allowed to speak there are the ones with the "you-are-my-favorite-musician-ever-and-I-will-accept-everything-you-say-and-do-even-if-it-costs-me-$1,100-to-meet-you" attitude. Or the ones who don't get too much into trouble. People with other opinions just don't bother going to post there. I am postively sure that I'd be banned in two-three days in that Forum.

That's why I'll stay here. Even though you probably don't care about it. :laugh: :laugh:


Song of the moment - Gate And Garden

CarneVaca 02-12-2003 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by seteca
Their job: to (try to) make other fans think "ooh, that huge fan has decided to pay the gazillion dollars for Mick's underwear, so maybe I should too!:]"

Woooh.... hold up there. I didn't know Mick's underwear was up for sale. In that case, where's my checkbook?

DownOnRodeo 02-12-2003 11:08 PM

Re: A $1,100 quote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cristian
Can't compare quality with quantity.
Well said!
Some of these posters over there have like a 2000 post count! The site's only been up for a few months! Unbelievable.

Quote:

Originally posted by Cristian

That's why I'll stay here. Even though you probably don't care about it.

We do, Cristian! :wavey:

EnchantedStorms 02-13-2003 12:49 AM

Re: Re: A $1,100 quote
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
Some of these posters over there have like a 2000 post count! The site's only been up for a few months! Unbelievable.


I know!! It's amazing, isn't it? lol, I've been coming here for almost two years (lurking a lot longer than that:) ) and I've *still* only got like eight hundred and some odd posts. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


~Angela~


:wavey:

CarneVaca 02-13-2003 09:43 AM

Well, guys, since I kind of have a thing for fairness, here goes:

There's definitely a creepy undercurrent on Mick's site. But I've made some pretty strong, critical statements, occasionally a wise ass remark or two, and got into a tangle (now there's a surprise!) with another poster or two.

And guess what? So far they've given me no strikes and my account still works!

strandinthewind 02-13-2003 09:48 AM

I can't resist...maybe he's one of the Knights who says, "NEE!" (sp?)
 
LOL Livia (and hello as well). Maybe we should request a shubbery (sp?) :D :D :D ;) :laugh: :laugh:

ERigby818 02-13-2003 11:41 AM

I actually went over there to take a peek
 
...and I wanted to barf!
I used the pc I have at work to go lurk over there for a few minutes (the "bb" crashes my mac broswer as I've said, but it's no big loss) and in the short time I was there and the little I saw I was totally creeped out:
1. I actually saw one of these mick-can-do-no-wrong cheerleaders with 1000+ posts telling someone who was skepitical about the fan club to LEAVE. :shocked:
2. The few skeptics there who asked more than just simple questions about their concerns seemed to go unanswered
3. One skeptic referred to an earlier post of theirs that had been DELETED by someone other than he/she!
4. The only complaining on one thread seemed to be that there was too much negativity and complaining!
5. Someone apparently posted the fine print you agree to when you get a fan club membership...this I want to see again, I didn't get a good look, but it looked like there are no guarantees to anything:(
6. More praise and endless thanks for Mick and the "Knight" for working so tirelessly for the fans! (I think they get paid by the hour)
7. Someone pointed out how many tens of thousands of dollars Mick had made off the first day of fan club memberships and nobody seemed disturbed by this!


Now all of this was just my brief observation and in some cases, my opinion. I certainly don't blame or judge anyone for posting or checking over there who wants info. After all, it is an official site and there is so much exciting stuff going on right now. I'm just a little nauseous from these freaky cheerleaders, and their lack of respect for a little dissent/skepticism/questioning that did NOT include any artistic criticism or "trolling."

I'll talke quality and variety over quantity any day :nod:.
-Sonia

CarneVaca 02-13-2003 12:01 PM

Ah, come on, guys. Give the man a break. After all, he went on a hunger strike and stood up to the British, managing to loosen the tight grip of imperialism on India...

Oh, wait a minute. Sorry, that was Ghandi. I got them confused again! Must be all those charitable causes Mick's gotten involved in of late that keep confusing the crap out of me.

Eh, what can you do In These Strange Times? :shrug:

David 02-13-2003 12:58 PM

Re: I actually went over there to take a peek
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ERigby818
3. One skeptic referred to an earlier post of theirs that had been DELETED by someone other than he/she!
I believe it! I wrote a masterpiece of a post over there a couple of days ago, & it was deleted!

The only advantage that board has over this one is that it works properly with Explorer 6.0 & later. This board still jumps up & down while the image is interlacing.

Gypsy-Rhiannon 02-13-2003 03:15 PM

Re: Re: I actually went over there to take a peek
 
Quote:

Originally posted by David
I believe it! I wrote a masterpiece of a post over there a couple of days ago, & it was deleted!

The only advantage that board has over this one is that it works properly with Explorer 6.0 & later. This board still jumps up & down while the image is interlacing.

So what was the masterpiece you wrote??? Obviously something other than saying how wonderful Mick is ;)

Pip

CarneVaca 02-13-2003 04:35 PM

Well, since the question was raised here, I decided to pose it at Mick's site:

Just curious: Are the people who keep jumping in here always saying how Mick and The Knight are so great on Mick's payroll, or are they just Mick and The Knight signing on under different names?

FiercestCalmSea 02-13-2003 04:45 PM

Quote:

Just curious: Are the people who keep jumping in here always saying how Mick and The Knight are so great on Mick's payroll, or are they just Mick and The Knight signing on under different names?

Good question...there can't be that many Mick fanatics,lol.

nae 02-13-2003 06:09 PM

Mick's site IS creepy & I agree with everyone here who is saying the whole fan club thing is questionable/wrong. It's so obvious that it's all about the $$$. Do those people think we are THAT stupid?
It will be interesting to hear the stories people come back with after the shows, because then we will be able to make a final judgement~~~You know,all of this makes me regret the fact that Mick(or whoever) passed up the chance for THIS site to be official a long time ago. What a shame.

NAE

Cristian 02-13-2003 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Just curious: Are the people who keep jumping in here always saying how Mick and The Knight are so great on Mick's payroll, or are they just Mick and The Knight signing on under different names?
How much time did it take you to get banned, you were saying? ;)


Song of the moment - Freedom

Johnny Stew 02-13-2003 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nae
You know,all of this makes me regret the fact that Mick(or whoever) passed up the chance for THIS site to be official a long time ago. What a shame.
In light of recent events, I, for one, couldn't be happier that the Penguin wasn't chosen for official status! :)



Johnny Stew

wetcamelfood 02-14-2003 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
In light of recent events, I, for one, couldn't be happier that the Penguin wasn't chosen for official status! :)
I completely agree Johnny Stew! :)

John

CarneVaca 02-14-2003 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cristian
How much time did it take you to get banned, you were saying? ;)


Song of the moment - Freedom


I'm still not banned. I'm beginning to feel a little bit like North Korea: "Hey come on over and bomb me! Oh, come on! Hey, I'm still here!"

Anyway, the Meet and Greed threads are gone.

nae 02-14-2003 09:55 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Johnny Stew
[B]In light of recent events, I, for one, couldn't be happier that the Penguin wasn't chosen for official status! :)



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It just seems to me that the team Mick hired to do his website has come up with some bad ideas. I mean, do you really think that Mick sits around and thinks up those crazy schemes? I don't. I think the people over there think up this stuff and then they pitch it to Mick who then says yes or no.

This site is so much better than that one. I really like the Nicks Fix too. The Mick/FM sites are so commercial & I have a feeling they won't last too long after the tour is over. Besides, the only time I ever go over there is to see what you guys are so mad about.

Nae:nod:


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