2003 Studio Album Named...............
 

SAY YOU WILL


Below is lifted from Mick's site

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I've got lots of news for you tonight so grab your datebooks and get ready to start marking improtant events coming up REAL SOON!

Get another Mac Fix sooner than you think! The single will debut March 4th but no final decisions on the song yet!

You can hear a new Fleetwood Mac song called "Peace Keeper" on NBC's Third Watch scheduled to play on February 17th!

The ALBUM HAS BEEN NAMED!

The most interesting, most exciting, most wonderful new album in your collection this year will be named . . . . . . . "SAY YOU WILL".

I just can't express how superior the production is and how deeply "Fleetwood Mac" this album is. It is a masterful work that will both remind you of the best of the golden days and astound you with different twists and a new sound. "Say You Will" will simply knock you out!

More Soon about the fan club and advance tickets. We've listened to your comments and locked this down and I think you're going to like it!

Warm Regards!

The Knight!
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Thanks for posting that, Neil.

Thanks Neil

WOW that is big news!

I'm personally far from 'blown away', but it's not a 'bad' title either. In fact, that describes my feeling - its pretty mediocre, wouldn't you agree.

"Oh well"

:wavey:

If they were going to take the easy way out and name the album after a track, instead of coming up with a unique name (like Rumours or Mirage), then I think it definitely should have been Peacekeeper, or even Thrown Down at the very least. Say You Will doesn't sound so interesting for a title.

Thanks for posting this, Neil. :)

I have to say, I agree that the title is a bit lackluster. It took them that long to come up with "Say You Will"? I think "Peacekeeper" would have been an awesome title for the album.

Hmm...

Mike B.

Now all we need are the actual tour dates and the track list.

I don't really like the title....i always expect a one word symbolic sort of title for them...I really would have like it to be called "Peacekeeper"...i think it would have been very appropriate in these hellish times...also, didn't Stevie say in the "Behind the Music" special that she "always tried to keep the peace..."? and Lindsey wrote the song....Oh well, nothing we can do about it...not to be negative but i really haven't been blown away by anything about this project yet. I'm glad they're doing a record but i'm keeping my expectations low.

Like some other people have said, I think Peacekeeper would have been a better title.
Sofie

"Say You Will" is such a generic, nondescript kind of a title... my money was definitely on "Peacekeeper" so this comes as a major disappointment. I guess the title isn't everything but it would have to be their worst to date.
To think that Stevie has been waiting all these years to have a Mac album named after one of her songs and this is the best she could manage? Maybe she just put her platform down and insisted on having the title song this time around without giving it a lot of thought - it certainly seems that way.

Well, there is that reference to "DANCE"
 

Anyone else notive in "Say You Will" the lyrical reference to getting someone to "dance" ... maybe this song is supposed to represent the members coming together again via the DANCE special [which was itself working with the symbolism of the Matise painting, etc.] to put out a new album.

What a bland, uninspiring title for an album. It reinforces my fears that there's going to be a fair bit of Tango-style rubbish on this new album. Perhaps Lindsey can pull off an heroic feat of production in order to smother Stevie's childish gibberings. :laugh:

I'm not impressed by that title at all. So why did it take them what seemed like an eternity to name it???

The one good thing about the title "Say You Will" is that it sounds very similar to the sort of names of most pop albums being released (by the stars of the past few years, not veterans) nowadays. Ok, good for them, I really do hope that the album is as commercially successful as it deserves to be.

:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Re: Well, there is that reference to "DANCE"
 

That is good point. I don't thrill over this title, however I did not like "Peacekeeper" as a title either. I did not like the title for "The Dance" at the time either. Maybe it will grow on me. Hope the CD cover is good.:laugh:

"Say You Will" !!!????

This is the best they could have come up with? Maybe these numbskulls should go back on drugs.

Hey... maybe it will fit in well with the cover and the whole "theme" of the album. At least we have a title now! I kinda like it.... Say You Will.....

Say You Will
 

Once again Neil thanks for the heads up!

I might be in the minority here but I love the new title! It's about time they got away from those somewhat corny names like "Mirage", "Tusk" , and "Tango In The Night"...come on please!

If "Say You Will" is the first single from the lp then I think that in itself would be a good way to promote the album of the same name.

"Say You Will"...very simple....but HEY there is BEAUTY in simplicity!! ;) :)


Joe

And you can get some terrific anagrams out of it!

Wail, Sly You!
Lay I Yowl Us
USA Lilly Yow
Was Lily You?

Re: Say You Will
 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Touche'

When I first read this morning that it will be called "Say You Will," i was dissappointed.

But then I got to thinking about it. If we had not known about the song "Say You Will", found out that the title of the CD is "Say You Will", would we think anythign differently of it?

I'm trying to pretend that I knew nothing of the song ahead of time, and I think that I like the title more. It has a bit of mystery, I think, although it's nothing like "Tango in the Night," which I think is one of the best album titles.

I really would have liked it to be called Peacekeeper to. It just sounds like them. Anyway, when you really think about it, it's just a name, not to be rude or anything.

David you kill me :lol: But that is one way to look at it. :)

:wavey:

I'll second that...sheesh...but then again,as long as the music is good,i suppose it doesn't matter right...but...something catchier would have been better i think.

Re: Say You Will
 

Joe, I like it too. :)

When I first heard it, I didn't. But the more I turn it over in my head, the more I like it. It...flows. :shrug:

This is no longer a fan forum, but a critic's forum. My lord you people are hard to please!! We are all welcome to our own opinion, but god lately you people don't like anything. Don't like the songs that are leaked, don't like songs on tv, don't want the same songs that you have heard for the last year through unofficial sources to be the same as the songs on the album, don't like the title, don't like how many cities they plan to play. I think many have built this thing up to be such an event of biblical proportions that nothing will satisfy this group.

I for one am glad to be getting some new material and have the opportunity to see them again live. Some songs may be a great, a few below average, and many average, but I admire the fact they have chosen to release new material, as opposed to just whoring out the past on the road as many great bands have been doing for the last few years with a complete absence of new material.

John

Just how much time was spent in choosing a title and they come up with this???

I don't like it at all. It does not say anything! But then again, you're right, the music is what's important.

I might be wrong but I think this is the first Fleetwood Mac album named after a Stevie song/suggestion (Fleetwood Mac - no, Rumours - John, Tusk - Lindsey song, Mirage - wasn't it Lindsey's mum?, Tango - Lindsey song, Mask - Christine song, Dance - not sure)


Song of the moment - Woman Of A Thousand Years

Thank you for the info:) it's good to know this thing is really coming along~ IMO, I don't care what the darn thing is named~
I want to hear the music+I'm so excited to have the chance to see/hear them live again!

N.

"Say You Will" would not have been my first choice for the name of the album, but I actually like it. I loved hearing the snippet of the song.. it is very catchy and I can't get it out of my head. I honestly didn't care what they named the album. I am just happy that we have new music from them and that I will finally be able to see them live on tour! I am looking forward to the new album!

:) Michelle

Say You Will...
 

Bravo, John Run.
You said it perfectly. :)

Love,
Jo and Jensen

Re: Say You Will...
 

I also thought the same thing. :)

I'm sure we would all agree that everybody is just happy to have them release new material, and to see them tour again blah blah blah

BUT

I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I myself don't see anything wrong with having super high expectations for them as well. They SHOULD be held accountable for their songs and things even as piddly as the album title. We're talking about a critically acclaimed mega group whose life spans numerous decades, who have sold about a gazillion albums worldwide, and who have been very successful in almost everything they have ever attempted. This isn't some garage band whose fans should be content with saying "well, we're just happy to see them release a new album and it'd be great if they tour a bit too." There is no reason why anybody should have to "settle" or lower their expectations for this project. FM should be shooting for the moon, and we should not have to accept anything less.

That being said, I have to say I've tremendously enjoyed each of the songs so far that we've got to heard. But like many other people, I think I'm still waiting to be blown away, and as I stated earlier in this thread, this album title certainly didn't blow me away. I'm not sure how much that matters in the long run though, so take it for what it's worth.

Originally posted by John Run This is no longer a fan forum, but a critic's forum. My lord you people are hard to please!! We are all welcome to our own opinion, but god lately you people don't like anything. Don't like the songs that are leaked, don't like songs on tv, don't want the same songs that you have heard for the last year through unofficial sources to be the same as the songs on the album, don't like the title, don't like how many cities they plan to play. I think many have built this thing up to be such an event of biblical proportions that nothing will satisfy this group.

I for one am glad to be getting some new material and have the opportunity to see them again live. Some songs may be a great, a few below average, and many average, but I admire the fact they have chosen to release new material, as opposed to just whoring out the past on the road as many great bands have been doing for the last few years with a complete absence of new material.



John,

I agree! I was so excited just to get some news, and then so many of the posts here were such downers. Well, for you "Glass is half full" folks out there, please remember that they don't hand out Grammy awards for album titles! Sure it isn't what I would imagine they name the record, but really does it matter? They could have called it "Butt Nugget" and as long as there are some good songs on the record, I'll be happy!

Did anyone ever think that maybe the members of FM really like this title???? It is after all THEIR album. They can name it whatever they want... I don't think anyone should be disappointed with ANY album title... I'm sure the band thought long and hard about the title, they obviously like it and think it fits the context of the album... or else they would've named it something different. If FM thought that "Peacekeeper" was the best choice for the album, then I'm sure that would've been the title. But obviously they didn't.

I think that you can't really make any judgements until you see the whole "package"...... I have faith that the title will do justice to the album content.

JMO....

Sure, but that doesn't make it any less bland of a title IMO.


It's just a matter of personal taste. It's OK to express an opinion as to whether you like the sound of the title Peacekeeper better than Say You Will. I agree that the ultimate judgement will arrive when we hear the entire album, but until then, it's not a mortal sin to say that you don't like something (which seems to be a recurring issue here).

My 2 pennies...
 

*In my best Blaine from In Living Color voice* Hated it.
*snap snap snap*

The title sucks dog chow..IMO...

Fleetwood Mac --------- Say You Will

I prefer:

Fleetwood Mac ------- Peacekeeper or

Fleetwood Mac -------- Illume


But, that's just me. :shrug:

Maybe it will grow on me....but, right now....yep, sucks dog chow. :rolleyes:

I LOVE the song Peacekeeper, haven't heard Thrown Down, and I haven't heard enough of Say You Will to like or not like it yet.

I am however EXCITED ENOUGH TO PEE ON MYSELF concerning the TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAY...my birthday is May 2nd and all I ask for are TICKETS and money to buy programs, tee-shirts, keychains, the FRICKIN WORKS!! :laugh:

Considering some of the demos and songs that we've heard so far, I've been thinking what a pity it is that they've already used 'The Dance' as a title.
It seems that would have been very fitting for this collection.

As an album title, 'Peacekeeper' was ok... but I always felt it might give off the wrong vibe as far as what kind of music would be contained within.

My initial reaction is that 'Say You Will' comes off a bit blandly as an album title, but... again... considering some of the music we've heard so far, I get the impression there's a theme to the album, and apparently Fleetwood Mac felt that 'Say You Will' best represented that theme.

I'm sure it will grow on us in time... and if it doesn't, then call it whatever you want.
At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter... it's the music inside that counts.
(Of course, I'm waiting for all the grumbles about that too.)


You know, as I sit here and think about it, the new title is already growing on me.
:)



Johnny Stew

Another 2 pennies...
 

I forgot to elaborate on something...

I agree that we've hyped this album up BIG TIME and psyched ourselves out SO much that we were prepared to be BLOWN AWAY/KNOCKED OUT/AWED/AMAZED, etc...by the album title, songs, and OMG, wait till we see the cover!!!! GASP!! Do ya'll think it will be that pic we've all seen? That pic goes with the album title...blah. :laugh:

The more I think about it, it's silly (yet FUN!!) to sit here and DISSECT everything, the album title, the picture, the songs, the news, etc...LOL

I'm just gonna go with the flow...not get mad about the dumb title, ENJOY THE CRAP outta this album/tour and live it up...for it may be the last from FM....I pray not tho. :(

One MORE thing: THANK GOD that the members of FM don't look like corpses like some OTHER rock bands do...I'm not mentioning any names....;)

Is having a bad title really the end of the world

Surely its the 18 tracks on the CD we and the general public will be buying the CD for???

I mean, I love the new Mariah album, but the title is the worst album title ever ;)

Say You Will...what? What does it mean? I prefer 'Peacekeeper'.

Thanks for the post John Run!
 

John Run,
I could not have said it better myself. I have been trying to figure out a word to call what this forum has become and that is exactly it---a critic's forum! And I'm sure I'll get alot of stones thrown at me for this, but I say we get rid of the critics and turn this into a fan forum again. I have nothing against people saying they would have preferred another title or think it's a little bland, but the people that are having hissy fits over it are being absolutely rediculous!!! I cannot remember any album in the history of the music industry being ruined because of the title of it. I totally agree with you---let's be glad that our favorite band is still making music and giving us an extremely long tour! I can usually restrain myself from these negative threads, but I just can't take it anymore! :confused: :eek: :mad: :(

So once, again...good for you John Run!!!

I agree totally that the forum has become too negative lately. I mean come on lets just be happy that the band is still alive and kicking and making new albums. We need to savour this moment and not dwell on what we may or may not like about the new album.

Ps. I think the albums title is lousy. But that's just my oppinion :)