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Wdm6789 07-30-2024 07:05 AM

New Mirage tour live album on Spotify
 
Anyone else see this? It appears to be the full set from the 1982 The Forum shows. The album cover is really good. Don’t Stop is the early release.

Hopefully this means we’ll get the videos soon too.

Penguin Emeritus 07-30-2024 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1295810)
Anyone else see this? It appears to be the full set from the 1982 The Forum shows. The album cover is really good. Don’t Stop is the early release.

Hopefully this means we’ll get the videos soon too.

yes i saw this today also. videos would be nice...

--Lis

BigAl84 07-30-2024 09:42 AM

This is really cool to get an official release of a Mirage show. I was really, really hoping the next release would be one of the complete tusk shows we don't have i.e. Richfield etc. Maybe next year!

jbrownsjr 07-30-2024 09:43 AM

https://retropopmagazine.com/fleetwo...ck%20Fleetwood.

jbrownsjr 07-30-2024 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1295818)
This is really cool to get an official release of a Mirage show. I was really, really hoping the next release would be one of the complete tusk shows we don't have i.e. Richfield etc. Maybe next year!

They did quite a few shows in Richfield (Cleveland). I would love a "real" show from those. Not the Mirage Tour LA, labeled as Cleveland.

jbrownsjr 07-30-2024 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1295817)
yes i saw this today also. videos would be nice...

--Lis

I wonder if they have footage of the full concert video some where, or if the Masters are lost (for film). :shrug:

BigAl84 07-30-2024 09:47 AM

I am kind of surprised they went with a Mirage show for an official release, primarily because it's probably the one tour where Stevie's voice was the weakest link (it did make for a killer sisters of the moon!)

jbrownsjr 07-30-2024 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1295822)
I am kind of surprised they went with a Mirage show for an official release, primarily because it's probably the one tour where Stevie's voice was the weakest link (it did make for a killer sisters of the moon!)

She shines, however. The Chain howls are iconic, in my opinion. And most every other SOTM is boring compared to the HBO version.

BigAl84 07-30-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1295823)
She shines, however. The Chain howls are iconic, in my opinion. And most every other SOTM is boring compared to the HBO version.

All true AND I absolutely love Lindsey's guitar solos on Rhiannon/Sisters. It's also the only tour where his electric guitar sounds completely different because of the mesa boogie effects board he was using. Hold Me from the deluxe live album is still one of the tracks I go back to and play all the time.

Macfan4life 07-30-2024 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1295822)
I am kind of surprised they went with a Mirage show for an official release, primarily because it's probably the one tour where Stevie's voice was the weakest link (it did make for a killer sisters of the moon!)

Not really. There are several nights of Sara in 1982 that Stevie hits the high notes on Sara as if it was December 1979. She was at peak powers but yes her voice was fried on some songs. That HBO Rhiannon is an example.
If you check on the Mirage show in NJ and play Sara its never been sung the same way since. It was the last days of the super high ooooooooooooo's that she pulled off perfectly. We also get the vocal bridge on Gypsy that she does quite nice.

BigAl84 07-30-2024 10:12 AM

I'm nitpicking, but it would have been an extra bonus had this release been from 10/22. We only have Brown Eyes from that date as an official release.

jbrownsjr 07-30-2024 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1295825)
All true AND I absolutely love Lindsey's guitar solos on Rhiannon/Sisters. It's also the only tour where his electric guitar sounds completely different because of the mesa boogie effects board he was using. Hold Me from the deluxe live album is still one of the tracks I go back to and play all the time.

The guitar was also iconic. And the Brits were delivering. They seemed fresh and worn out at the same time.

BigAl84 07-30-2024 10:17 AM

From ultimate classic rock site, which I think they might have their facts backwards. Brown Eyes is the only track labeled as 10/22 on the deluxe Live album.

All of the Mirage live tracks on the Mirage box are not specified by date, they all say 10/21-10/22. So we don't really know which is which. There's a confusing game via process of elimination awaiting us lol.

Among the nearly two dozen tracks on Mirage Tour '82 are six previously unreleased recordings from the Oct. 21 concert, including "Landslide," "Don’t Stop" and "Never Going Back Again."

Other songs recorded on Oct. 22 have appeared on other releases over the years, including Live Super Deluxe Edition, Mirage Super Deluxe Edition and the 1983 concert video Mirage Live.

Read More: Fleetwood Mac Announces Live 'Mirage Tour '82' Album | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/flee...edium=referral

jbrownsjr 07-30-2024 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1295829)
From ultimate classic rock site, which I think they might have their facts backwards. Brown Eyes is the only track labeled as 10/22 on the deluxe Live album.

All of the Mirage live tracks on the Mirage box are not specified by date, they all say 10/21-10/22. So we don't really know which is which. There's a confusing game via process of elimination awaiting us lol.

Among the nearly two dozen tracks on Mirage Tour '82 are six previously unreleased recordings from the Oct. 21 concert, including "Landslide," "Don’t Stop" and "Never Going Back Again."

Other songs recorded on Oct. 22 have appeared on other releases over the years, including Live Super Deluxe Edition, Mirage Super Deluxe Edition and the 1983 concert video Mirage Live.

Read More: Fleetwood Mac Announces Live 'Mirage Tour '82' Album | https://ultimateclassicrock.com/flee...edium=referral


Nobody knows! haha

BigAl84 07-30-2024 10:44 AM

Since this release is clearly labeled as 10/21 - I suppose you could compare these tracks to the video release and any tracks that don't match would presumedly be from 10/22.

Disregard: this release is a mix of both 10/21 and 10/22.

HomerMcvie 07-30-2024 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1295821)
I wonder if they have footage of the full concert video some where, or if the Masters are lost (for film). :shrug:

WHO owns the footage? HBO?

bwboy 07-30-2024 10:47 AM

The title of this thread says this will be released on Spotify, but will be released on CD as well? I’m old school that way!

Videos would be awesome but I suspect there won’t be. Otherwise they likely would have released the concert on dvd as well.

jbrownsjr 07-30-2024 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1295833)
The title of this thread says this will be released on Spotify, but will be released on CD as well? I’m old school that way!

Videos would be awesome but I suspect there won’t be. Otherwise they likely would have released the concert on dvd as well.

APPLE MUSIC has Don't Stop. Listened to the single this morning.

sound is great!

HomerMcvie 07-30-2024 10:54 AM

I'm VERY doubtful of the video being released.

jbrownsjr 07-30-2024 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1295835)
I'm VERY doubtful of the video being released.

Extremely doubtful. :distress:

HomerMcvie 07-30-2024 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1295836)
Extremely doubtful. :distress:

It's the thing we want the most. That's why it won't happen. :(

Villavic 07-30-2024 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1295831)
Since this release is clearly labeled as 10/21 - I suppose you could compare these tracks to the video release and any tracks that don't match would presumedly be from 10/22.

Disregard: this release is a mix of both 10/21 and 10/22.

At iTunes all songs are labeled 10/21, but I don't think it's reliable.

BigAl84 07-30-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1295838)
At iTunes all songs are labeled 10/21, but I don't think it's reliable.

Amazon was the same way - everything labeled 10/21. I'm guessing the masters were not labeled properly or notes were lost over time.

David 07-30-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1295838)
At iTunes all songs are labeled 10/21, but I don't think it's reliable.

I wouldn’t necessarily trust any of those dates on the labels of these releases. Best to trust your own ears. The HBO video seems to mix the two nights — remember that sloppy cut during “Sisters of the Moon” and the change of clothing during “You Make Loving Fun”?

Shame that the label can or won’t get its hands on the October 18 concert, a superior concert that features Henley on “Leather and Lace.”

Wdm6789 07-30-2024 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1295841)
I wouldn’t necessarily trust any of those dates on the labels of these releases. Best to trust your own ears. The HBO video seems to mix the two nights — remember that sloppy cut during “Sisters of the Moon” and the change of clothing during “You Make Loving Fun”?

Shame that the label can or won’t get its hands on the October 18 concert, a superior concert that features Henley on “Leather and Lace.”

Wait, what change of clothing during You Make Loving Fun? I’ve never noticed that before. And where is the cut in Sisters of the moon?

Yeah I’d love to see a video of Fleetwood Mac playing Leather and Lace with Don Henley. Wasn’t it just Lindsey, Christine, Stevie, and Don Henley or were John and Mick on bass and drums too? It’s been a while since I’ve heard that bootleg.

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1295837)
It's the thing we want the most. That's why it won't happen. :(

I’d love to get the full video from The Forum and the full video from the US Festival.

It seems like the full Mirage Tour videos are the most coveted pieces of Fleetwood Mac media amongst the Fleetwood Mac fandom community.

BigAl84 07-30-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1295841)
I wouldn’t necessarily trust any of those dates on the labels of these releases. Best to trust your own ears. The HBO video seems to mix the two nights — remember that sloppy cut during “Sisters of the Moon” and the change of clothing during “You Make Loving Fun”?

Shame that the label can or won’t get its hands on the October 18 concert, a superior concert that features Henley on “Leather and Lace.”

and I wouldn't be shocked if they applied the audio from one night to the video of the opposite night lololol

Macfan4life 07-30-2024 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1295843)
Wait, what change of clothing during You Make Loving Fun? I’ve never noticed that before. And where is the cut in Sisters of the moon?

Yeah I’d love to see a video of Fleetwood Mac playing Leather and Lace with Don Henley. Wasn’t it just Lindsey, Christine, Stevie, and Don Henley or were John and Mick on bass and drums too? It’s been a while since I’ve heard that bootleg.



I’d love to get the full video from The Forum and the full video from the US Festival.

It seems like the full Mirage Tour videos are the most coveted pieces of Fleetwood Mac media amongst the Fleetwood Mac fandom community.

The HBO show has really, really bad edits. You never noticed the skip in beat in Sisters and the amateur splice in tape during Sisters? Right after Lindsey sings and Stevie comes out right before she takes the mic again. I am guessing they wanted the speaking in tongues night but the rest of the song was better the other night. So they are edited together rather badly. Also you can see right as the lights go out after Sisters a quick shot of Stevie bowing with a tambourine. They made it appear Sisters was the last song instead of Go Your Own Way.
I had not noticed clothes changing during YMLF but someone said for the HBO nights, Christine's keyboards were loaded with other prop organs that were not real or plugged in. I have no knowledge of that but I read that here.

The tape is spliced together right around 6:04. You can hear it and see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1kF5HsUw84

Andyleo 07-31-2024 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1295833)
The title of this thread says this will be released on Spotify, but will be released on CD as well? I’m old school that way!

Videos would be awesome but I suspect there won’t be. Otherwise they likely would have released the concert on dvd as well.

Yes for a double CD and a 3LP on Rhino store website. Ordered both today, release date is 20th September.

I really hope for a DVD but as already mentioned, I doubt it too. Nice if they fixed the awful splice in Sisters though.

bwboy 07-31-2024 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyleo (Post 1295853)
Yes for a double CD and a 3LP on Rhino store website. Ordered both today, release date is 20th September.

I really hope for a DVD but as already mentioned, I doubt it too. Nice if they fixed the awful splice in Sisters though.

Thank you so much for the info! I’ll be ordering it!

Villavic 07-31-2024 08:02 AM

Hope this time Not That Funny will be released in its complete version.

Macfan4life 07-31-2024 08:22 AM

I've listened to countless Mirage shows and Tusk with Sisters of the moon. The L.A. Forum show she does something I've not heard her do before with the "Sister, brother, sister, brother" This version is also the only one I heard her speak in tongues. Dear God the blow must have been so good that night in addition she was hamming it up for HBO.

I watched YMLF but did not see a clothing change. However the close up in the end of Stevie (yeah yeah) she's got some sort of cape on? Is this close up of Nicks and her "yeah yeah" part edited in?

I love the HBO show and we could spend forever dissecting the good, bad, awesome, crazy, blah blah blah.
One part that I LOVE because its pure camera effect you would never see today is when the Chain is going strong near the end of the vocals and the camera is on Stevie close up. The camera goes out of focus to then focus on Chris's close up. That's the way it was done in those days but that effect is so cool and prove its really live stuff.
I always thought Stevie looked stoned during Gypsy but her vocals are perfect. I also love the side eye Chris gives Stevie when she comes on stage during YMLF. It may not have meant what it looks like but it really stands out. "Go back in the tent and do your blow darling, this is my song. You are not needed."

HomerMcvie 07-31-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1295856)
Hope this time Not That Funny will be released in its complete version.

GTFOOH.
I hope they release The Not That Funny boxed set, just for ewe. Front to back, different versions of nothing but NTF.

jbrownsjr 07-31-2024 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1295856)
Hope this time Not That Funny will be released in its complete version.

Me, too. Leave the show as is. Quit messing with it.

bwboy 07-31-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1295856)
Hope this time Not That Funny will be released in its complete version.

I’m sorry Villavic, but your idea is simply… Not That Funny.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist! I really dislike that song and never understood what the appeal is to other people.

BigAl84 07-31-2024 03:59 PM

NTF is awesome. Honestly, I'm So Afraid bores the sh*t out of me most of the time except when witnessing the solos in person, up close, in concert. I'll take NTF over ISA any day of the week.

jbrownsjr 07-31-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1295869)
NTF is awesome. Honestly, I'm So Afraid bores the sh*t out of me most of the time except when witnessing the solos in person, up close, in concert. I'll take NTF over ISA any day of the week.

Both from that Mirage live era are so much fun.

jmn3 07-31-2024 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1295860)
I've listened to countless Mirage shows and Tusk with Sisters of the moon. The L.A. Forum show she does something I've not heard her do before with the "Sister, brother, sister, brother" This version is also the only one I heard her speak in tongues. Dear God the blow must have been so good that night in addition she was hamming it up for HBO.

She did the brother sister thing in Oakland too and the ending was a bit chaotic but not as much speaking in tongues as she did at the Forum.

Macfan4life 08-01-2024 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1295875)
She did the brother sister thing in Oakland too and the ending was a bit chaotic but not as much speaking in tongues as she did at the Forum.

You are so correct. I just listened to it. Great trivia question and you nailed it. It is a great version though but not as powerful as L.A. Her voice seemed to be in better shape in L.A. too. Sometimes edits are made to cover up a mistake by the band. I wonder if the band was tighter on one night of Sisters and not the other. When they saw the speaking of tongues they figured they had to put that part in from the other night.
On another note, gosh I love Christine's keyboard playing on sisters. Its so haunting and so signature Christine.
Could you imagine the stories some of these camera men could tell if they are still alive.

BigAl84 08-01-2024 07:37 AM

Heads up - it looks like NTF is the edited version :mad: If you zoom in on the image of the CD packaging you'll see "9:06" next to the song title on the disc.

I bet some idiot edited the tape back in the day and the entire version doesn't even exist anymore OR the full length version would prevent the entire show fitting on two discs. We're only talking about 2-ish additional minutes. I haven't had enough coffee to do that kind of math.

Macfan4life 08-01-2024 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1295878)
Heads up - it looks like NTF is the edited version :mad: If you zoom in on the image of the CD packaging you'll see "9:06" next to the song title on the disc.

I bet some idiot edited the tape back in the day and the entire version doesn't even exist anymore OR the full length version would prevent the entire show fitting on two discs. We're only talking about 2-ish additional minutes. I haven't had enough coffee to do that kind of math.

Well let's hope they get the city and tour name right this time.


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