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Macfan4life 10-22-2023 06:26 PM

Buffalo 2023
 
The quality of this show is excellent. Stevie tells the crowd that on Mac's first tour with her, she, Chris and John went shopping and she bought her first top hat in Buffalo that she still has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Uj...o9eUVw&index=1

Penguin Emeritus 10-22-2023 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1289271)
The quality of this show is excellent. Stevie tells the crowd that on Mac's first tour with her, she, Chris and John went shopping and she bought her first top hat in Buffalo that she still has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Uj...o9eUVw&index=1

ooo any idea around what song or what time in the show? can't listen to the whole thing, i just wanna hear the story lol :rolleyes:


edit-- i found it, it's right at the beginning, how convenient! thanks for mentioning the story was in there.
--Lis

DownOnRodeo 10-22-2023 06:41 PM

What she doesn't mention is that the hat sorted her into Slytherin.

mitzo 10-22-2023 07:07 PM

She needs a new wardrobe. Jesus....

UnwindedDreams 10-22-2023 07:11 PM

Is the reason she doesn’t spin anymore because she’s 75?

Macfan4life 10-23-2023 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1289272)
ooo any idea around what song or what time in the show? can't listen to the whole thing, i just wanna hear the story lol :rolleyes:


edit-- i found it, it's right at the beginning, how convenient! thanks for mentioning the story was in there.
--Lis

At the end she tells another Buffalo story. She lived in the house for 3 months that the composer to Shuffle off to Buffalo lived. Apparently there was a cottage or recording studio on the property. She said she never met him but lived in his house. I like that she tells these personal stories. In her wild days I don't think she knew or really cared where she was performing. She is still talking about every song in the set like the 24k Gold tour.

UnwindedDreams 10-23-2023 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1289281)
I like that she tells these personal stories. In her wild days I don't think she knew or really cared where she was performing. She is still talking about every song in the set like the 24k Gold tour.

As for a tour, I think she started talking about every song in a tour on the 2007 Crystal Visions Tour. (source: her Soundstage which is the CV Tour filmed)

Of course Storytellers started it in 98.

Macfan4life 10-23-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1289283)
As for a tour, I think she started talking about every song in a tour on the 2007 Crystal Visions Tour. (source: her Soundstage which is the CV Tour filmed)

Of course Storytellers started it in 98.

I was referring to the town she is playing and the stories unique to each one. She cant remember what songs were on which album yet she can remember where she bought her first top hat on the road. Yes she has banter between songs. However the 24K Gold tour really kicked up the banter explaining before or after each song since her set featured songs she never did before. Her set is very similar to the 24k Gold Tour and she is stuck on that mode.

BombaySapphire3 10-23-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1289275)
Is the reason she doesn’t spin anymore because she’s 75?

Yes..and she has also said that she will continue to perform when she is no longer ambulatory is a ribbon festooned wheelchair. Unlike many of her promises/musings I actually believe her on this one.

bombaysaffires 10-23-2023 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1289285)
I was referring to the town she is playing and the stories unique to each one. She cant remember what songs were on which album yet she can remember where she bought her first top hat on the road. Yes she has banter between songs. However the 24K Gold tour really kicked up the banter explaining before or after each song since her set featured songs she never did before. Her set is very similar to the 24k Gold Tour and she is stuck on that mode.

Did Storytellers come before that? I seem to recall in that one she made a comment about "they told me to talk before each song" and sort of implied that she was trying to get comfortable with that and think of stories to tell for each song.

Well, they sure let the horse out of the barn because she just gets longer and longer winded every tour since. :eek:

cbBen 10-23-2023 11:54 PM

Yes, Storytellers was 1998.

BrownEyedGirl26 10-24-2023 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1289274)
She needs a new wardrobe. Jesus....


I was just listening to 720am ABC radio station, when they played Aretha Franklin singing, 'I Say A Little Prayer For You' while I was reading this post and this line
"Wondering what dress to wear now." made me think of Stevie.

I'm sure Margi Kent could use her magic, again, to design her a whole new 'Hit The Stage Lily' wardrobe to include the chiffon, diaphanous capes and dresses that both, Margi and Stevie are famous for. :thumbsup:

sue 10-24-2023 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1289274)
She needs a new wardrobe. Jesus....

New wardrobe and new hair…
The dress (uniform) looks like a crinoline it’s so corseted.

Though she sounds quite good, her voice is very powerful.

BigAl84 10-25-2023 02:06 PM

How is it possible that she really thinks it's worthwhile to have story time before Gypsy...AGAIN? All die-hard fans aside, if you think about the number of people who have casually attended the 2014/2015/2019/2022 Fleetwood Mac/Solo shows who were subjected to the Gypsy story hour - everyone has already heard nearly every version she has. It's like being held hostage at a Baskin Robbins - nobody is leaving until you hear this 31 f**cking ways.

I really don't know how some of those long term members of her band do it. The money must be good. What a stale show.

Villavic 10-25-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1289354)
How is it possible that she really thinks it's worthwhile to have story time before Gypsy...AGAIN? All die-hard fans aside, if you think about the number of people who have casually attended the 2014/2015/2019/2022 Fleetwood Mac/Solo shows who were subjected to the Gypsy story hour - everyone has already heard nearly every version she has. It's like being held hostage at a Baskin Robbins - nobody is leaving until you hear this 31 f**cking ways.

I really don't know how some of those long term members of her band do it. The money must be good. What a stale show.

If the casual assistants that went in 2014, 2015 and 2019 and heard the Gypsy story the three times, and then they decide to go again in 2022, I can only think they don't mind. Or worse yet they enjoy it.

BrownEyedGirl26 10-26-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1289356)
If the casual assistants that went in 2014, 2015 and 2019 and heard the Gypsy story the three times, and then they decide to go again in 2022, I can only think they don't mind. Or worse yet they enjoy it.

Hi Villavic and BigAl84,
I think this needs to be addressed. Every business should ask for feedback and adjust, their, practices accordingly, for the sake of their customers. She needs to keep her show fresh for her sake as well as the sake of her 'customers'. After all, this is her legacy and she will be remembered for everything she does. She has too many songs that need to be performed, as well, to keep her fans and 'customers' interested. Also, to freshen up her show, going forward, if there are any of her band or managers reading this, can you follow this up, please? :wavey: :xoxo:

Macfan4life 10-27-2023 05:00 AM

Ok I took one for the team and actually listened to her full Gypsy speech/intro for this show. Its just as long as ever but it has morphed into something else. For 2014/2015 OWTS she spoke about the early days on the road with Buckingham and opening for CCR and going to a clothing store in the velvet underground to buy her first really cool outfit. The speech was pretty much the same for 24k Gold.
This speech was about how much money she was making when she first joined Fleetwood Mac compared to her hard life before joining. Her mother is now brought up in the Gypsy story. She says she would ground herself and move her mattress to the floor to sort of remember the hard times. But in the end she says she was still "Stevie."
Stevie has taken form of someone bigger than herself.

UnwindedDreams 10-27-2023 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownEyedGirl26 (Post 1289390)
Hi Villavic and BigAl84,
I think this needs to be addressed. Every business should ask for feedback and adjust, their, practices accordingly, for the sake of their customers. She needs to keep her show fresh for her sake as well as the sake of her 'customers'. After all, this is her legacy and she will be remembered for everything she does. She has too many songs that need to be performed, as well, to keep her fans and 'customers' interested. Also, to freshen up her show, going forward, if there are any of her band or managers reading this, can you follow this up, please? :wavey: :xoxo:

I agree with you BrownEyed. Sadly, her management is in consultation with Irving Azoff and Irving just this week said that he told Eagles to do their "greatest hits" for their Final Tour. He said "you can't argue with the greatest hits." For the final tour, Eagles should be playing Disco Strangler, Greeks Don't Want No Freaks, Get Over It, and other non-radio songs.

And for the money Stevie's charging: $1,000, $750, $350 for the floor seats and $200 for upper seats she likely can't play Rock A Little, Alice, and Violet and Blue for example. I Sing for the Things is her only deep cut.

You are so right that now and frankly, last year were the times for her to go deep with no new album to play. Fall From Grace has been played hundreds of times. Do In Your Dreams or the Twisted from 24 Karat Gold. Hell, play the Bella Donna album in full with The Dealer, Blue Lamp, and Sleeping Angel. But she has returned to the 2005-2010 casino/shed show setlist. And she's making mad money. The audiences are so happy to be in the same room with her but these are not die hard fans. Die hards want the stuff that thousands in the venue don't know.

BigAl84 10-27-2023 08:31 AM

...and bragging to your audience about how much money you were making in a time when we're coming off of a life changing pandemic and an inflation spiral? It's pretty gross. There are better ways to do it, but her approach just comes across entirely tacky.

jmn3 10-27-2023 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1289399)
I agree with you BrownEyed. Sadly, her management is in consultation with Irving Azoff and Irving just this week said that he told Eagles to do their "greatest hits" for their Final Tour. He said "you can't argue with the greatest hits." For the final tour, Eagles should be playing Disco Strangler, Greeks Don't Want No Freaks, Get Over It, and other non-radio songs.

Their setlist is exactly why I didn’t bother seeing this tour. It’s the shortest Eagles setlist I’ve seen in years and it’s the same damn songs I’ve heard many times. There’s no special gem/nugget anywhere.

jmn3 10-27-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1289406)
...and bragging to your audience about how much money you were making in a time when we're coming off of a life changing pandemic and an inflation spiral? It's pretty gross. There are better ways to do it, but her approach just comes across entirely tacky.

I hate when she goes on and on about how poor they were. Lady, you and Lindsey both came from well off families and never had to worry too much because you always had wealthy parents who were going to bail your rear ends out. She acts like they were paupers before 1975.

HomerMcvie 10-27-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1289410)
I hate when she goes on and on about how poor they were. Lady, you and Lindsey both came from well off families and never had to worry too much because you always had wealthy parents who were going to bail your rear ends out. She acts like they were paupers before 1975.

$he's a master of playing the victim card.

bwboy 10-27-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1289399)
You are so right that now and frankly, last year were the times for her to go deep with no new album to play. Fall From Grace has been played hundreds of times. Do In Your Dreams or the Twisted from 24 Karat Gold. Hell, play the Bella Donna album in full with The Dealer, Blue Lamp, and Sleeping Angel. But she has returned to the 2005-2010 casino/shed show setlist. And she's making mad money. The audiences are so happy to be in the same room with her but these are not die hard fans. Die hards want the stuff that thousands in the venue don't know.

Stevie could play hits she hasn’t sang in years, so they’re practically deep cuts at this point- she would have nothing to lose and plenty to gain by adding Rooms on Fire, Talk to Me, I Can’t Wait, and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything and get rid of Gypsy and Free Falling. I mean, it’d be nice if she really revamp her setlist, but even these few changes would freshen her shows.

HomerMcvie 10-27-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1289409)
Their setlist is exactly why I didn’t bother seeing this tour. It’s the shortest Eagles setlist I’ve seen in years and it’s the same damn songs I’ve heard many times. There’s no special gem/nugget anywhere.

I'd love to see them one last time, but really don't want to pay those prices.
Is it weird that Deacon came back, after he quit?
The last time I saw them, when Deacon and Vince joined, the first thing I noticed was that did ZERO Henley solo songs, which was weird.

Macfan4life 10-27-2023 10:06 AM

Does anyone really believe she slept on a mattress on the floor while making all that money in the early days of Fleetwood Mac?
I thought it was funny (and so did the audience) when she wont say she was "rich". She says she was "not poor."
The Gypsy story has change from "I was a young artist in a band in a really cool location at a cool time in history. Got to see, play with, and experience lots of things"
TO
"I was poor and working so hard as a house cleaner and became famous and filthy rich. But I did not let it go to my head, I slept on the floor just to remind myself what it was like not being so rich"

BTW
Stevie
Regardless of how much money one makes, we all must file income taxes. It almost sounds like she never filed for taxes until she was rich. I smell another IRA audit coming :lol:

UnwindedDreams 10-27-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1289409)
Their setlist is exactly why I didn’t bother seeing this tour. It’s the shortest Eagles setlist I’ve seen in years and it’s the same damn songs I’ve heard many times. There’s no special gem/nugget anywhere.

This setlist is shorter than the post-Hotel California album performance set they did on their 2020 Hotel California show. That was an awesome show.

Poor Timothy gets one song now. They could throw him Love Will Keeps Us Alive and I Don’t Want To Hear Anymore.

UnwindedDreams 10-27-2023 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1289415)
Stevie could play hits she hasn’t sang in years, so they’re practically deep cuts at this point- she would have nothing to lose and plenty to gain by adding Rooms on Fire, Talk to Me, I Can’t Wait, and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything and get rid of Gypsy and Free Falling. I mean, it’d be nice if she really revamp her setlist, but even these few changes would freshen her shows.

Totally agree. Can we agree on removing the Buffalo Springfield song too? It serves as a melatonin.

BigAl84 10-27-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1289415)
Stevie could play hits she hasn’t sang in years, so they’re practically deep cuts at this point- she would have nothing to lose and plenty to gain by adding Rooms on Fire, Talk to Me, I Can’t Wait, and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything and get rid of Gypsy and Free Falling. I mean, it’d be nice if she really revamp her setlist, but even these few changes would freshen her shows.

Sadly, I think it's too late for a lot of those songs. They probably don't sound good in a lowered key and she doesn't have the range to do them like she used to.

BigAl84 10-27-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1289420)
I smell another IRA audit coming :lol:

Her old coke dealer is going to get one h*ll of a 1099 :]:]:]

BigAl84 10-27-2023 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1289410)
I hate when she goes on and on about how poor they were. Lady, you and Lindsey both came from well off families and never had to worry too much because you always had wealthy parents who were going to bail your rear ends out. She acts like they were paupers before 1975.

To be fair...I think her parents tried to make sure that they figured it out on their own as much as possible. Yes, both families were well off, but I don't think they were running around like trust fund kids. I remember seeing those photographs of Lindsey on the floor of the house they rented (from the Richard D. collection). It was basically a bare room with a lamp on the floor or something. Neither family was going to let them starve or be homeless by any means, but I get the feeling they were not given blank checks.

The Gypsy stories have evolved and changed so many times at this point, it's become less and less of a sincere reflection and increasingly more of a contrived schtick.

bwboy 10-27-2023 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1289426)
Sadly, I think it's too late for a lot of those songs. They probably don't sound good in a lowered key and she doesn't have the range to do them like she used to.

Agreed, but unfortunately she hasn’t sounded so great on many of her songs lately, so I say let her try her best and have Sharon and Marilyn pitch in more than usual!

And I definitely agree with dreamsunwinded that For What It’s Worth should be removed from the set, too!

BigAl84 10-27-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1289429)
Agreed, but unfortunately she hasn’t sounded so great on many of her songs lately, so I say let her try her best and have Sharon and Marilyn pitch in more than usual!

And I definitely agree with dreamsunwinded that For What It’s Worth should be removed from the set, too!

Oh I would definitely give her credit for trying, thats for sure!

I agree about FWIW....that song has been covered so many times over the years. Her version, although nicely done....it doesn't really bring anything new to the table.

UnwindedDreams 10-28-2023 08:35 AM

I am curious if Soldier’s Angel tonight will have mention of Israel and Palestine.


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