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Villavic 08-14-2023 05:49 PM

Say You Will: Your favorite songs, grouped by singer
 
Say You Will threads were located in this forum, so here we go. If you had to choose one group of songs that you like the most, which will you choose? Lindsey’s songs? Stevie’s songs?

UnwindedDreams 08-14-2023 08:57 PM

Papers she never signed... one of her best lyrics!

aleuzzi 08-15-2023 12:44 AM

They both turned in some very strong songs. On any ordinary Mac record, four or five of the best from each would have made a stellar set. But given its length, SYW is a bit uneven in parts—and both writers are culprits.

If I had to choose, I think Lindsey’s songs are overall a tad stronger: Say Goodbye and Red Rover are my favorites from him, but Miranda, Steal, Bleed, and Murrow are good, too.

Come, Peacekeeper, and WTWCT are fails for me…

Stevie’s choice songs are: Illume, Say You Will, Everybody Finds Out, and Destiny Rules are all really good. Her others…meh…

HomerMcvie 08-15-2023 01:19 AM

There are so many clunkers on this album, I really don't want to vote.
I HATE-
Come
Murrow
Illume
Silver Girl
And Peacekeeper sounds so dated. Oh yeah, I hate that f*cking bird on it.

I do like-
WTWCT
Miranda
Bleed
Steal
Everybody
Destiny

Hell, it's been so long since I listened to this half pile of dung, I'm having a hard time even remembering some of the other songs. I've watched the doc, but not listened to the disc for probably 10 years...

cbBen 08-15-2023 01:38 AM

The "back catalog" Stevie songs are fantastic, the newly-written ones the opposite.

Lindsey's are hit and miss but for no reason I can discern. "Steal Your Heart Away" is my favorite, "Come" my least favorite. He has good bad and in between on there.

"Wait For You" with Stevie on backing vocal belongs on the album.

sue 08-15-2023 02:54 AM

Well, I love this album..and I’m so glad that we have it.
I play it a lot and and still find new things about it every time I listen to it.
So my choices today may not be my choices next week..

Stevie:….Running through the garden.
Thrown down.
Lindsey:.. What’s the world coming to.
Steal your heart away.

mitzo 08-15-2023 09:16 AM

Stevie's best solo album. Lindsey's production makes her nine tracks here really incredible.

UnwindedDreams 08-15-2023 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1286914)
Stevie's best solo album. Lindsey's production makes her nine tracks here really incredible.

Not Make Believe is probably my favorite.
I think SYW’s Running Through the Garden BLOWS the RAL demo away

jbrownsjr 08-15-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286923)
Not Make Believe is probably my favorite.
I think SYW’s Running Through the Garden BLOWS the RAL demo away

I really like Not Make Believe, too!

David 08-15-2023 12:39 PM

The vote goes to Lindsey for me. When I first heard “Red Rover” in 2001, I was amazed at how strange and beautiful it was. Quite frankly, I didn’t know he had it in him by that point. I also loved the Zevonesque “What’s the World Coming To?” and the Kingston Trio tribute “Steal Your Heart Away.” Great songcraft on both of those. “Say Goodbye” is probably a career high point for him, too — one of the best love-and-loss ballads in years with words that tear at your heartstrings. (You’re reminded of Stevie’s words in “Gypsy” — “Faces freedom with a little fear, I have no fear, I have only love” — when you think about the guy in this song, moving on.)

Stevie has great ones — “Destiny Rules,” “Goodbye Baby,” “Illume” — but the edge goes to LB.

I only wish the album had been engineered by Dashut and Caillat. It’s a painfully top-heavy, overcompressed experience to listen to it. I can barely tolerate it.

jbrownsjr 08-15-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1286929)

I only wish the album had been engineered by Dashut and Caillat. It’s a painfully top-heavy, overcompressed experience to listen to it. I can barely tolerate it.

I think this is my main problem with the album, too. I do not like WTWCT. However, without the compression, that song might glisten to my ears. It really does sound compressed in so many great moments of the album.

WalkAThinLine. 08-15-2023 01:29 PM

Lindsey's great songs

Murrow Turning Over in His Grave
Red Rover
Come
Steal Your Heart Way
Bleed to Love Her

His other four songs are fine but less imaginative. Several of these songs had years to gestate and this extensive work mostly pays off. They sounded great on the Gift of Screws outtakes and some of them even improved slightly from their transition to Say You Will (and yes, there are some minor differences in the mixing and instrumentation).

Stevie brings in her best batch of songs since the Tusk album, but even then she brings in some duds such as "Illume" and "Silver Girl". Other songs such as "Say You Will", "Thrown Down", and "Destiny Rules" suffer from Nicks' pitchy voice. Someone suggested a while back that the band could have brought her songs up a few semitones, and I completely agree with that sentiment. Back in 2003, she was still capable of singing in a higher register, but certain songs on the album did not allow for that. Her older songs unsurprisingly comprise her best work. "Smile At You", while different from the demos found on Tusk and Mirage, still works well with its new arrangement. "Running Through the Garden" and "Everybody Finds Out" are my other favorites of hers, and "Goodbye Baby" is a fine enough song to close out the album.

UnwindedDreams 08-15-2023 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1286929)
The vote goes to Lindsey for me. When I first heard “Red Rover” in 2001, I was amazed at how strange and beautiful it was. Quite frankly, I didn’t know he had it in him by that point. I also loved the Zevonesque “What’s the World Coming To?” and the Kingston Trio tribute “Steal Your Heart Away.” Great songcraft on both of those. “Say Goodbye” is probably a career high point for him, too — one of the best love-and-loss ballads in years with words that tear at your heartstrings. (You’re reminded of Stevie’s words in “Gypsy” — “Faces freedom with a little fear, I have no fear, I have only love” — when you think about the guy in this song, moving on.)

Stevie has great ones — “Destiny Rules,” “Goodbye Baby,” “Illume” — but the edge goes to LB.

I only wish the album had been engineered by Dashut and Caillat. It’s a painfully top-heavy, overcompressed experience to listen to it. I can barely tolerate it.

Someone corrected my singing of Gypsy to say it’s “Her face says freedom” How does that make sense?

bombaysaffires 08-15-2023 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286940)
Someone corrected my singing of Gypsy to say it’s “Her face says freedom” How does that make sense?

no. it's 'faces freedom'

jbrownsjr 08-15-2023 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1286947)
no. it's 'faces freedom'

not if you were a child and enough.

bombaysaffires 08-15-2023 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1286929)
The vote goes to Lindsey for me. When I first heard “Red Rover” in 2001, I was amazed at how strange and beautiful it was. Quite frankly, I didn’t know he had it in him by that point. I also loved the Zevonesque “What’s the World Coming To?” and the Kingston Trio tribute “Steal Your Heart Away.” Great songcraft on both of those. “Say Goodbye” is probably a career high point for him, too — one of the best love-and-loss ballads in years with words that tear at your heartstrings. (You’re reminded of Stevie’s words in “Gypsy” — “Faces freedom with a little fear, I have no fear, I have only love” — when you think about the guy in this song, moving on.)

Stevie has great ones — “Destiny Rules,” “Goodbye Baby,” “Illume” — but the edge goes to LB.

I only wish the album had been engineered by Dashut and Caillat. It’s a painfully top-heavy, overcompressed experience to listen to it. I can barely tolerate it.

Yep hard to listen to for exactly the reasons you cite.

And I agree about the lyrics to Say Goodbye.... quite profound actually.

UnwindedDreams 08-15-2023 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1286948)
not if you were a child and enough.

You say HEY:wavey: HEY:wavey: baby!

jbrownsjr 08-15-2023 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286958)
You say HEY:wavey: HEY:wavey: baby!

Call me Alice.

aleuzzi 08-16-2023 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1286929)
The vote goes to Lindsey for me. When I first heard “Red Rover” in 2001, I was amazed at how strange and beautiful it was.


“Say Goodbye” is probably a career high point for him, too — one of the best love-and-loss ballads in years with words that tear at your heartstrings. (You’re reminded of Stevie’s words in “Gypsy” — “Faces freedom with a little fear, I have no fear, I have only love” — when you think about the guy in this song, moving on.)

Yes—for me, Red River and Say Goodbye are the gems here. Just when I thought his best days were behind him, he turned in these performances. Wow. Just wow.

UnwindedDreams 08-16-2023 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1286964)
Call me Alice.

Tender, young Alice?

Hoping you're an Elton fan:laugh:

Macfan4life 08-16-2023 06:12 AM

They are all stellar. Lindsey really shines. However just like when you play fantasy football and have your best week, you happen to play the opponent who also has their best game ever. Its almost a tie which says a lot since Stevie is known for being such a good song writer. Songs like Thrown Down, Everybody Finds Out, and Destiny Rules are out of this world. So my nod would go to Stevie just barely.

jbrownsjr 08-16-2023 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286978)
Tender, young Alice?

Hoping you're an Elton fan:laugh:

Levon or Jeanie for Elton. :laugh:

UnwindedDreams 08-16-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1286981)
Levon or Jeanie for Elton. :laugh:

Listen to All The Girls Love Alice by Elton. Killer rock song from the Yellow Brick Road album!


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