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BLY 07-28-2023 03:21 PM

Complete Studio Albums and Rarities Box Set
 
I just finished the Rarities disc of the box set on headphones…Amazing!

Andyleo 07-29-2023 02:24 AM

Yes! And Rock A Little too sounds amazing with some long time lacking real bass. :D
Overall, I'm not disappointed with the sound and remastering. It's decent, at least on my system it is blowing me away.:]:]

sleepless child 07-29-2023 09:59 AM

Mine is supposed to come on Monday. I can't wait. The packaging looks really nice. I've watched some videos of people who got theirs.

deribish 07-29-2023 11:12 AM

Im most impressed with how amazing STREET ANGEL sounds as an album. It's clean, lean, spacious and strong. The remastering and mixing makes even the dud-iest of songs sound better. Violet and Blue and Sometimes Its a Bitch also sound phenomenal.

BLY 07-29-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by deribish (Post 1286340)
Im most impressed with how amazing STREET ANGEL sounds as an album. It's clean, lean, spacious and strong. The remastering and mixing makes even the dud-iest of songs sound better. Violet and Blue and Sometimes Its a Bitch also sound phenomenal.

I totally agree. I’m currently listening to TISL. It also sounds very crisp. TOSOTM and RAL are great also. I’m glad I purchased it. I can give my daughters my original cds. They also love Stevie.

Macfan4life 07-29-2023 01:07 PM

Ok now you guys made me curious. I used to listen to Escape From Berlin all the time and it was a headphone rush then. Anything new to hear?
I cant imagine me buying more Stevie solo stuff. I would probably buy a RAL outtake CD if it contained Mirror Mirror and Running through the Garden. I dont love the other stuff as much to buy it for the third time.

sanders8323 07-29-2023 01:51 PM

Sorry but let me be the first to express disappointment in this release, specifically with the mastering and the packaging. I compared the original Rock a Little CD with the remaster, and the original blows the remaster out of the water. The remaster is actually a bit quieter and lacks punch and dynamics that the original CD had. TOSOTM sounds almost exactly the same as the original release, and you can barely tell a difference at all.

The presentation of the box set is nice, but the actual CD packaging is some of the worst I have ever seen in a box set. First the cover of each CD is a paper thin piece of cardboard that can tear up with the slightest bit of mishandling by the consumer. While they did a nice job of replicating the vinyl artwork and layout, you have to have a magnifying glass to even read any of what's printed in the liner notes. Also, there is absolutely no indication that any of the albums were remastered at all, as it still lists the original mastering credits in the liner notes and no mention of any reissue credits. Rock a Little has actually had the mastering note removed for some reason.

Overall it's a cheap way to reissue her catalog, and it's a disappointment that Rock a Little through 24K did not get the proper treatment like Bella Donna and Wild Heart did. It would've been nice to get demos and outtakes from those albums. Sorry to be negative, but I can't be the only one that feels a bit let down here...

AnthonyMI 07-30-2023 02:03 PM

Other than the fact three of these have been out of print for a long time it’s not worth the price. Even the extras are all available so where on CD. There’s no reason to buy this set. RAL and OSOTM and maybe even SA should have got the same treatment as BD and WH. These is so much more in those years that those could have been released first THEN do a box set. OR better yet include them here and then release the individual albums next year or for Record store day.

Macfan4life 07-30-2023 02:50 PM

Since Stevie no longer owns the rights could it be the songs or demos that were not professionally released are not in the owner's possession? I just cant think of a reason why someone would go to the bother re-releases without some extras like they did for Wild Heart and Bella Donna.
Or maybe Stevie really does not like her mid to late 80s work and does not want anything getting out there? Or does someone think little effort = big profit and there will be something later? All of her concert tours were professionally recorded. Why not release a concert like they did for Bella Donna?

AnthonyMI 07-30-2023 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1286357)
Since Stevie no longer owns the rights could it be the songs or demos that were not professionally released are not in the owner's possession? I just cant think of a reason why someone would go to the bother re-releases without some extras like they did for Wild Heart and Bella Donna.
Or maybe Stevie really does not like her mid to late 80s work and does not want anything getting out there? Or does someone think little effort = big profit and there will be something later? All of her concert tours were professionally recorded. Why not release a concert like they did for Bella Donna?

Rhino is usually excellent at unearthing old thing and reissuing things that have value added and interest. This is just a regurgitation.

blinker12 07-30-2023 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1286357)
Or maybe Stevie really does not like her mid to late 80s work and does not want anything getting out there?

This is how I think about it. She has said that 1986-1994 are her lost years - the years that Klonopin stole. And while RAL predates that period (barely), she probably thinks of it as the beginning of the end. I think she simply does not want to revisit that time period and listen to (and approve) outtakes — sad as that is for us fans, since I am sure there are some gems to be unearthed.

I am happy to have a few of these songs available to stream for the first time, eg One More Big Time and Real Tears. Otherwise agree with others, this is not much to get excited about.

David 07-31-2023 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sanders8323 (Post 1286343)
Sorry but let me be the first to express disappointment in this release, specifically with the mastering and the packaging. I compared the original Rock a Little CD with the remaster, and the original blows the remaster out of the water. The remaster is actually a bit quieter and lacks punch and dynamics that the original CD had. TOSOTM sounds almost exactly the same as the original release, and you can barely tell a difference at all.

I can’t either. I spot checked some albums, including OSOTM, and heard no improvement. A remaster doesn’t jump out the way a remix can, but the mix flaws (like on “Escape from Berlin”) should at least get a little work on the levels to downplay them. But everything sounds like the earlier CDs.

WatchChain 07-31-2023 06:59 PM

This is an off-topic question, but I didn't want to create a new thread for this.

Has anyone seen Stevie in concert this year?
Does Stevie have an opening act on her current tour. I am attending the show on August 12 in Houston and the showtime is listed as 7pm (Doors at 6).

That seems unusually early for Stevie to begin. Does she go on at 7pm sharp?

vivfox 07-31-2023 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1286396)
This is an off-topic question, but I didn't want to create a new thread for this.

Has anyone seen Stevie in concert this year?
Does Stevie have an opening act on her current tour. I am attending the show on August 12 in Houston and the showtime is listed as 7pm (Doors at 6).

That seems unusually early for Stevie to begin. Does she go on at 7pm sharp?

I haven't seen her on this tour but she brought Vanessa
Carlton along as the opening act.

vivfox 07-31-2023 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1286388)
I can’t either. I spot checked some albums, including OSOTM, and heard no improvement. A remaster doesn’t jump out the way a remix can, but the mix flaws (like on “Escape from Berlin”) should at least get a little work on the levels to downplay them. But everything sounds like the earlier CDs.

I am STILL waiting for effing Amazon to deliver my CD's!! They haven't even shipped the damn things yet.

greendaze5 08-01-2023 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1286396)
This is an off-topic question, but I didn't want to create a new thread for this.

Has anyone seen Stevie in concert this year?
Does Stevie have an opening act on her current tour. I am attending the show on August 12 in Houston and the showtime is listed as 7pm (Doors at 6).

That seems unusually early for Stevie to begin. Does she go on at 7pm sharp?


I went to the Toronto show in June. Her opening act (Tenille Townes) started at 7.

But I think Townes (who is Canadian) only did the Toronto show. Stevie may have different (local?) opening acts at each stop.

https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/review-stevie-nicks-wows-toronto-in-four-star-show/article_c08195e1-f05a-55ba-a8b9-db5e7c339a2c.html

vivfox 08-01-2023 10:53 AM

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Amazon has not shipped my 10-CD set yet, but here's a first: They lowered the price to 79.99 from the 99.99 price I purchased it for without me even asking for any type of discount, and gave me a $21.00 credit.

BLY 08-01-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1286422)
Amazon has not shipped my 10-CD set yet, but here's a first: They lowered the price to 79.99 from the 99.99 price I purchased it for without me even asking for any type of discount, and gave me a $21.00 credit.



Me too…they do it automatically. You gotta love Amazon.😎

vivfox 08-01-2023 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1286425)
Me too…they do it automatically. You gotta love Amazon.😎

I guess we should love Amazon. I cannot imagine a company offering a discount after we've already paid full price.

UnwindedDreams 08-01-2023 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1286396)
This is an off-topic question, but I didn't want to create a new thread for this.

Has anyone seen Stevie in concert this year?
Does Stevie have an opening act on her current tour. I am attending the show on August 12 in Houston and the showtime is listed as 7pm (Doors at 6).

That seems unusually early for Stevie to begin. Does she go on at 7pm sharp?

She does. But usually not the same one for more than 2 nights. I think Stevie went on at 8:20 when I saw her this year.

Better to be early than be in a crowded ingress while Outside the Rain is playing!

mikemono411 08-01-2023 05:42 PM

I think the newly remastered albums (RAL, TOSOTM, SA, TISL) absolutely sound better. It’s typical of albums remastered in the last ten years to be quieter (the 90s gave rise to what are called “The Sound Wars”). I think “Whole Lotta Trouble” is one of the songs that has one the most notably different mixes: the slide guitars are more in the background and the song is also 28 seconds longer!

I do dislike the tiny font in all the sleeves/booklets and there’s not really info about who did the remastering across the board? It just has compilation production / supervisory credits.

vivfox 08-02-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1286388)
I can’t either. I spot checked some albums, including OSOTM, and heard no improvement. A remaster doesn’t jump out the way a remix can, but the mix flaws (like on “Escape from Berlin”) should at least get a little work on the levels to downplay them. But everything sounds like the earlier CDs.

That's most likely because you were listening to their MP3 versions. This came with the order: The CD you pre-ordered will be arriving shortly. We thought you'd like to know that the CD is AutoRip eligible. This means that the MP3 version of the album is now available for you to play or download from your Amazon Music Library for FREE.

P.S. so much for the CD arriving shortly. They haven't even shipped the damn thing yet!

soul_drifter333 08-02-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemono411 (Post 1286443)
I think the newly remastered albums (RAL, TOSOTM, SA, TISL) absolutely sound better. It’s typical of albums remastered in the last ten years to be quieter (the 90s gave rise to what are called “The Sound Wars”). I think “Whole Lotta Trouble” is one of the songs that has one the most notably different mixes: the slide guitars are more in the background and the song is also 28 seconds longer!

I do dislike the tiny font in all the sleeves/booklets and there’s not really info about who did the remastering across the board? It just has compilation production / supervisory credits.

Thanks for your review. That's the information I was looking for. I hate it when they master CDs so loud they sound distorted, which is how it been done for a while. In the early days CDs were mastered with really low volume and then it went to way too loud. That's one of the things that I really like about Rhino remasters is that the audio levels are correct. They sound more warm and I hear a lot more detail in the recording.

soul_drifter333 08-02-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1286450)
That's most likely because you were listening to their MP3 versions. This came with the order: The CD you pre-ordered will be arriving shortly. We thought you'd like to know that the CD is AutoRip eligible. This means that the MP3 version of the album is now available for you to play or download from your Amazon Music Library for FREE.

P.S. so much for the CD arriving shortly. They haven't even shipped the damn thing yet!

I miss the old days when you can run down to the local record store and buy a new release on the morning it was actually released. I would get so excited and be ready to run down to the store at opening. I still remember doing this for many of FM albums, especially TUSK. There was so much hype about it's release after Rumours.

Some online vendors will try to have new releases to you on release date but not Amazon. Several times I preordered FM releases only to have Amazon tell me it's on backorder before it's even released. Even worse, I can't even count how many times my shipments are damaged from being shipped in a flimsy envelope. One time Amazon even shipped a vinyl record that someone bought me in an envelope with no other packing.

I have several cool local record stores in my area but they don't really order CDs anymore when they can make so much more profits on a $30+ vinyl record.

Macfan4life 08-02-2023 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by soul_drifter333 (Post 1286460)
I miss the old days when you can run down to the local record store and buy a new release on the morning it was actually released. I would get so excited and be ready to run down to the store at opening. I still remember doing this for many of FM albums, especially TUSK. There was so much hype about it's release after Rumours.

Some online vendors will try to have new releases to you on release date but not Amazon. Several times I preordered FM releases only to have Amazon tell me it's on backorder before it's even released. Even worse, I can't even count how many times my shipments are damaged from being shipped in a flimsy envelope. One time Amazon even shipped a vinyl record that someone bought me in an envelope with no other packing.

I have several cool local record stores in my area but they don't really order CDs anymore when they can make so much more profits on a $30+ vinyl record.

I miss the days of going to the record store and buying a new or fresh album or even an older one. The Rumours insert could keep you busy for hours looking at all the photos and reading the lyrics and the thank you notes.
I miss that new vinyl smell too. Although it would really suck if your new album had a scratch. I remember my Mirage album had a few tiny scratches that made a few songs skip a few places. I was too young to drive so it would be a hassle to find a ride back to the mall for an exchange. You dealt with it sometimes applying pressure to the needle to work out the skip.
I still do not buy any digital music. I still listen to CDs. I have a great little Bose system that works fine.

David 08-02-2023 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1286450)
That's most likely because you were listening to their MP3 versions.

That could be, Viv. My friend Alex was listening to the CDs themselves on his Sonos Arc and said they sounded much better than the original CDs. I also notice that the BD and WH mixes are the recent deluxe mixes, which were good.

But what about photos and fun stuff in this package? Is there anything interesting?

BLY 08-02-2023 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by david (Post 1286466)

but what about photos and fun stuff in this package? Is there anything interesting?


nothing at all!

WatchChain 08-02-2023 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286441)
She does. But usually not the same one for more than 2 nights. I think Stevie went on at 8:20 when I saw her this year.

Better to be early than be in a crowded ingress while Outside the Rain is playing!

Thanks for this information. It's safe to assume that Stevie will have an opening act of some sort in Houston on 8/12.

We can arrive at 7pm and still have one hour + before "Outside the Rain" kicks off.

vivfox 08-02-2023 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1286466)
But what about photos and fun stuff in this package? Is there anything interesting?

I'll let you know, if the package arrives sometime in 2023. I just contacted Amazon because it hasn't even been shipped yet. My condo has paper thin walls as do many apartments in this world and I don't like to disturb the neighbors on either side of me with music. I'm not a big headphone or ear bud fan either. One of my neighbors was gone for 2 weeks, came back for one overnight and vanished again. All that time I could have been blasting my music!!

UnwindedDreams 08-02-2023 09:01 PM

A little fun. Now that the Box Set is out what if Stevie only played songs from the box set when she starts her tour in Columbus, Ohio after over a month of rest.

1. Thousand Days
2. If Anyone Falls
3. Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
4. Wild Heart
5. Bella Donna
6. Rooms On Fire
7. I Sing For the Things
8. Gate and Garden
9. After the Glitter Fades
10. Stand Back
11. Outside the Rain
12. Blue Lamp
13. Leather and Lace
14. My Heart
15. One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star
16. Edge of Seventeen
17. The Nightmare
18. Has Anyone Ever Written

I guess never

vivfox 08-02-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286475)
A little fun. Now that the Box Set is out what if Stevie only played songs from the box set when she starts her tour in Columbus, Ohio after over a month of rest.

1. Thousand Days
2. If Anyone Falls
3. Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
4. Wild Heart
5. Bella Donna
6. Rooms On Fire
7. I Sing For the Things
8. Gate and Garden
9. After the Glitter Fades
10. Stand Back
11. Outside the Rain
12. Blue Lamp
13. Leather and Lace
14. My Heart
15. One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star
16. Edge of Seventeen
17. The Nightmare
18. Has Anyone Ever Written

I guess never

2,11 & 18 have already been played to death and I never want to hear any of those on a concert stage ever again!! You know it's funny how Stevie will tell a reporter that she can't do non hits on stage. Has Anyone was a single and it bombed yet she has performed that to death for a thousand years. Outside the Rain was never a hit song and it sounded good on the Bella Donna tour, but now enough is enough!! If Anyone Falls is a good album track but it's boring to me onstage. Bring back Nightbird and have Marilyn & Sharon share the vocals center stage. Wild Heart & Bella Donna could be swiped out with Trouble in Shangri La & Talk To Me.

UnwindedDreams 08-03-2023 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1286476)
2,11 & 18 have already been played to death and I never want to hear any of those on a concert stage ever again!! You know it's funny how Stevie will tell a reporter that she can't do non hits on stage. Has Anyone was a single and it bombed yet she has performed that to death for a thousand years. Outside the Rain was never a hit song and it sounded good on the Bella Donna tour, but now enough is enough!! If Anyone Falls is a good album track but it's boring to me onstage. Bring back Nightbird and have Marilyn & Sharon share the vocals center stage. Wild Heart & Bella Donna could be swiped out with Trouble in Shangri La & Talk To Me.

I forgot Free Fallin and For What It’s Worth are on the box set too so they could replace Wild Heart and Bella Donna. Just goes to show you how she feels about Show Them the Way. Three years since it’s release it hasn’t been played live and it’s not on a vinyl or cd pressing.
I don’t think she’ll sing Talk To Me again because she’s probably upset that her biggest hit from Rock a Little was a song given to her by someone who nobody has heard of in a sports arena. Stop Draggin’ was given to her by a legend.

Macfan4life 08-03-2023 11:44 AM

The most obvious to me is After The Glitter Fades. It was the 4th single off her best solo album. It worked really well in her acoustic 1998 Enchanted set. Its also nearing the end of her career which fits the song even more.

We need to remember that she is older and she is not going to do anything daring. Not that when she was younger she did anything daring either.

sleepless child 08-03-2023 12:07 PM

I was listening to Wild Heart album yesterday. How I would live to hear Sable on blonde live

UnwindedDreams 08-03-2023 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepless child (Post 1286485)
I was listening to Wild Heart album yesterday. How I would live to hear Sable on blonde live

I was thinking what could Outside the Rain lead into and Blue Lamp was my thought but Sable could also!

UnwindedDreams 08-03-2023 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1286484)
The most obvious to me is After The Glitter Fades. It was the 4th single off her best solo album. It worked really well in her acoustic 1998 Enchanted set. Its also nearing the end of her career which fits the song even more.

We need to remember that she is older and she is not going to do anything daring. Not that when she was younger she did anything daring either.

Ann Wilson and Bonnie Raitt go out and do setlists that challenge their audience. But Stevie is there to give the people what they want. Wild Heart is a standard now because people saw the YouTube video of her singing to Can’t Go Back. Bella Donna was the title track of her #1 album.

bombaysaffires 08-03-2023 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286489)
Ann Wilson and Bonnie Raitt go out and do setlists that challenge their audience. But Stevie is there to give the people what they want. Wild Heart is a standard now because people saw the YouTube video of her singing to Can’t Go Back. Bella Donna was the title track of her #1 album.

Stevie stopped being an Artist a long, long time ago. She's a Performer, an Entertainer. There has been zero creativity in her or her shows for almost 20 years.

UnwindedDreams 08-03-2023 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1286496)
Stevie stopped being an Artist a long, long time ago. She's a Performer, an Entertainer. There has been zero creativity in her or her shows for almost 20 years.

After the TISL Tour, I remember being so let down with her setlists which were almost the same each year and full of cover songs. When In Your Dreams came around everything changed, though I think she could have been more creative with her set on the 2012 leg. To me, the oldies act started with the 24 Karat Gold Tour where she only played 3 songs from the album and honestly, she should’ve had another Songs From the Vault before that tour started considering she finished the FM Tour in November 2015 and didn’t start the tour until October 2016.

What happened to Stevie who said “I don’t care if anybody buys my album, I’m doing it for me”? “I don’t listen to what anyone tells me to do especially if it’s a girl”

HomerMcvie 08-04-2023 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1286498)
What happened to Stevie who said “I don’t care if anybody buys my album, I’m doing it for me”? “I don’t listen to what anyone tells me to do especially if it’s a girl”

Much like many of her fans, she's a numbers gal...

UnwindedDreams 08-04-2023 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1286499)
Much like many of her fans, she's a numbers gal...

I think Irving got in her hear. And I am devastated that Cher just signed a contract with him which probably means Cher will never do another solo album, but instead an ABBA covers album. I've been waiting 10 years for an album of original album of songs from Cher. Irving is not supportive of artists releasing music.


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