What's Next?
 

After this tour, what do you think is next for Stevie? There is no more Fleetwood Mac, so she can work on any project of hers that she wants.

A new album, with new material or demos. The Rhiannon project, Country album, Covers album perhaps? Maybe even an art show or something exciting like a book. I hate to get my hopes up. I don't think she has any desire to record anymore and I haven't heard a think about Rhiannon since Covid. I don't even think she has the desire to write a book. So maybe an art show of her paintings? She can't just keep touring all the time can she?

I don't think she will record anymore. I think next summer she will announce a big farewell tour even though it may not be the last time she walks on stage. It appears she is attaching herself to Sheryl Crow again. It was not posted here but Sheryl joined her on stage in Nashville. Perhaps we will see Stevie tag along on her tour or something.

In this video, Stevie talks about Sheryl almost joining Fleetwood Mac and taking Christine's place right during the Christine tribute. Way to go Stevie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ZIljpMBb4

She’s a delusional nut. The only way Sheryl was coming *this* close to joining Fleetwood Mac in 2008/09 was if Stevie would’ve been able to oust Lindsey ten years earlier than she did. Of course that would’ve never worked at the time.

Marry me? She really is coo coo for coco puffs.

And then Christine wouldn't have been able to return.

Stevie just needs to retire now. She sounds like sh*t now, trying to hide behind her backup singers and tracks. "Hey Stevie, we can still hear your droning warble!"

I would have loved to have seen how she eased into this Christine tribute. Ladies and Gentlemen, Miss Sheryl Crow and then they sing with Christine photos in the background.
Ending with her discussing how Sheryl was almost Christine's replacement.
Just odd.

She is totally insane. This is what happens when you spend 50 years being told how incredible you are and have nobody keeping you humbled for at least the last 20.

She’s so upset about her departed best friend Christine. So upset she decides to dedicate her last song to her complete with photos of the two of them. Then she also brings her other friend on stage during the same song. This is beyond bizarre even for her. Why not do something else with Sheryl? Nutjob.

Not that Chris wouldn’t have been able to return - there’s no chance in hell Chris would have even entertained it.

She could host a late night talk show, interspersed with musical interludes.

What should we call it?

Nicks At Night

Stevie & Friends

The Nightbird Hour

Who's Not The Boss?

Christine truly was the smartest of them all, and the best business person.

Stevie's head is so far up Stevie's ass, that she can only see her own sh*t. And her so called friends tell her how wonderful it smells.

How many times do we have to go over this lololol. She will tour next year on a co-bill with some other classic rock act with a nearly identical set list, with one deep cut and one new cover.

Remember she does have a concert with Billy Joel in March 2024. I think she'll continue this tour with no name into next year too with more Billy Joel dates.

The Billy shows did not visit a lot of markets: St. Louis, District of Columbia, Miami, Tampa, or Jacksonville, Cleveland or Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Denver, Buffalo, New Orleans, Charlotte, San Antonio, Anaheim.

That exact thought went through my head…
A chat show with Stevie doing most of the chatting.
I would call it.

Dancing at Midnight with La Nicks.

Odd, disrespectful, and GROSS. :mad:

Meh, the only person she passively swiped was Bekka Bramlett when she said Sheryl would have been the only other woman in Fleetwood Mac.

Yes, I think she really just doesn't know the history of Fleetwood Mac. Probably doesn't remember the Time lineup. For all we know, when she heard All Over Again on the FM Sirius channel, she could have thought it was from Behind the Mask.

Fleetwood Mac did not exist without Stevie so its hard for her to remember those years. Many years later Mick realized that Fleetwood Mac cannot exist without Stevie.

Homer, if you believe your statement that, "She really is coo coo for Coco Puffs" and likewise hmm3, if you believe that your statement that, "She is totally insane", is true then you're, both, only reinforcing your belief that she is mentally unstable and are punishing and abusing her for her disability.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You’re such a misogynist.

And you're something else.

The Eagles just announced their swansong farewell tour. Its called the "Long Goodbye Tour." It starts in September 2023 and continues all through 2024 into 2025.
I think my prediction will come true. Irving will talk Stevie into a farewell summer tour next year.
Its sad our band Fleetwood Mac never had the honor of a farewell tour. But you know who ruined that scenario. The band was already on its last legs with health and voices. Yet someone could not tour one last time with the guitarist because of ego.

Steely Dan is opening for the Eagles. What a show! How appropriate too. The Steely knives referred to in Hotel California was a stab at him. His girlfriend at the time was a huge Eagles fan and he could not stand it. The Eagles knew this and they were friends with him but thought the line was funny. No matter how he tried to stab the Eagles he could not kill the beast.

That is the concert of the year. The Eagles goodbye will sell out but Steely Dan too? Incredible.

COVID-19

Yep. Of course, he could have STFU about the Classic fests, played a couple of Peter Green songs, and delayed his solo album (which, ironically, got delayed three years, anyway). Maybe don’t pick the final stretch to be an a$$hole. Maybe appreciate you got one more Fleetwood Mac album (sort of) and be completely political. Nope. Not Lindsey. He had to be such a colossal a$$hole that Irving Azoff responded to him in the press and gloriously let the world know that of all the colossal a$$holes he’s dealt with -which includes The Eagles, Steeley Dan, the Doobies, etc.- Lindsey Buckingham was the colossal-iest a$$hole he’s ever dealt with and it brought him nothing but sheer utter joy that the last Fleetwood Mac tour was the most profitable Fleetwood Mac tour ever.

But, sure, yeah, it was all Stevie.:rolleyes:

I'll bet you're a scream at parties...

Depends on the party.

I'd go see this tour only if Bernie and Randy (if his health permitted) were on it. I've seen Vince and Deacon with them and I've seen Glenn with them.
I bet it'll be the same setlist that's on their recent Live at The Forum album.
After their History of the Eagles Tour, I think the shows got blah. They sound beautiful but the setlists are way predictable.

No, it was Christine's passing.

There's the three year rule in Fleetwood Mac. Last FM show was end of November 2019. Also that show was majorly marketed as THE FINAL CONCERT (small print was end of the 2018 tour). During the show, Stevie said the audience would be their last audience for a while.

Stevie was planning to tour through at least 2020, she would have done the oldies set at festivals and amphitheaters. I think she may have made an album considering her comment to Ellen with Sheryl Crow about making albums because you love to. And she probably would have toured that 2021 or 2022.

I'm sure you know Crowded House was touring 2020 and on for their Dreamers Are Waiting album. And The Knobs too.

Hard disagree. Mick and Mike talked about Fleetwood Mac still doing festivals and a small run of shows here and there. Fleetwood Mac as a touring entity was over, though.

Lindsey said the same thing after the Hollywood Bowl show at the end of the Tusk tour.

Which would have meant Fleetwood Mac could’ve done a 2022 run of festivals and a small run of shows in select markets. Christine was still alive and not entirely opposed.

Easily postponed.

Are you being facetious? Steely Dan is not a person's name. Dan Fagan &Walter Becker are Steely Dan just like Vincent Furnier is Alice Cooper.

But the subject here was a farewell tour for FM like Eagles Long Goodybye - that tour is not a small run of shows. If Stevie was touring ia solo album in 2021 and 2022 like she did for In Your Dreams, would she take the time out to rehearse for a small run of FM shows? I guess she would if it was the same setlist as the 2018-2019 shows. Though when she rehearsed for Classic, it was after she finished her tour with Pretenders.


Right, so exactly what I was saying. It would be two years until you saw Mac again. And Stevie's three year rule started after the SYW Tour. So 2019 to 2022 is three years.

It is in fact a reference to Steely Dan, but not even close to that reason.

“One of the things that impressed us about Steely Dan was that they would say anything in their songs, and it didn’t have to necessarily make sense,” [Frey] said. “They called it ‘joke sculpture.’ When we thought of this song ‘Hotel California,’ we started thinking that it would be very cinematic to do it like sort of The Twilight Zone – you just have one line that says there’s a guy on the highway, the next line says there’s a hotel in the distance, then there’s a women there, then he walks in. It’s just like all one-shots just strung together, and you sort of draw your own conclusions from it.”

Frey recalled that he and Henley "were sort of trying to expand our lyrical horizons and just take on something in the realm of the bizarre, as Steely Dan had done.”

That’s one of the reasons they mention the group in the lyrics; another was because the Steely Dan song “Everything You Did,” which was released earlier in 1976, included the line “Turn up the Eagles, the neighbors are listening.”

I guess we’ll never know what would have been if not for the pandemic.

If I come across a lithium supply, I'll hit you up.

No but I was typing fast. Yes I know Steely Dan is not a person. Walter Becker was the person I was referring to. He had a very competitive relationship with the Eagles and his girlfriend was a big Eagles fan and it drove him nuts. For decades people wondered what the Steely Knives line was about. .

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“Apparently, Walter Becker’s girlfriend loved the Eagles, and she played them all the time,” singer/guitarist Glenn Frey is quoted as saying in Gavin Edwards’ Is Tiny Dancer Really Elton’s Little John?: Music’s Most Enduring Mysteries, Myths, and Rumors Revealed. “I think it drove him nuts. So, the story goes that they were having a fight one day and that was the genesis of the line.”

The call-out isn’t really insulting – it’s sardonic in a very Steely Dan kind of way. But that reference would later tie the two groups together on a couple of different occasions. Future Eagles bassist Timothy B. Schmidt, who at the time was singing with fellow country rock icons Poco, provided backing vocals on The Royal Scam. Don Henley was even invited to provide the backing vocals for ‘Peg’, but when Henley didn’t mesh with the track, those duties were filled by Michael McDonald.

In order to pay them back for the lyrical reference, Henley and Frey decided to include a Steely Dan reference in their own work. While penning the lyrics to ‘Hotel California’, the pair originally had the line “stab them with their Steely Dan / But they just can’t kill the beast” included. When that seemed too direct for their nightmarish tale, Henley and Frey opted to change the line to “steely knives” in order to preserve the metaphor. “We just wanted to allude to Steely Dan rather than mentioning them outright, so ‘Dan’ got changed to ‘knives,’ which is still, you know, a penile metaphor.”

Well at last you see the light.

I've never been a defender of Stevie's nutty behavior or her inflated ego. But, in her defense, think about this.

She's 75 years old - the age when most people have already retired, downsized, and simplified their lives. Sell the expansive home, move into a condo, travel, hang out with friends, and reflect on life during the few years that you have left.

Most dinosaur rock acts from the 70s and 80s who can still fill an arena with an expansive music catalog are doing exactly what Stevie is doing - slowing down and playing their catalog of "hits" in a show that is heavy on technology and pre-recorded backing tracks. Just step on stage and sing along with the technology.

At 75, do you want to return to a corporate job to deal with headaches, office politics, and stress that go with it? I'm sure Stevie doesn't want to deal with record labels, radio, press, streaming services, and the headaches that go with that.

Her philosophy is probably: I have a catalog of hits, I can fill an arena, I need to stay semi-active - I just wanna travel with a few friends and have whatever fun is left to be had.

She's certainly earned that right.

It certainly sounds like you're defending her nutty behavior...:rolleyes:

They've all been jerks in the past, but never in the past has one of the members had another member axed from the band. I don't care how old somebody is, her actions totally sucked in 2018. She put the entire band in an awkward predicament and 1000% ruined the opportunity for a proper farewell with all 5 of them intact.

I agree with this. I don't find it nutty at all and it's typical that the shows mainly include their hits. I went to see Roger Waters twice, as I was interested to listen the whole Dark Side of the Moon (first time) and his classic great P.F. songs. Probably I wouldn't have gone to the concert if his setlist included just his 2017 album. Similar to other "dinosaur" shows I went (Pet Shop Boys, Rod S., Tears for Fears, Olivia, Pat B., etc.).

Of course with Fleetwood Mac it's different. I'd have loved a show with pure non-hits. But most of the public are similar to me in the case of the other artists I mentioned. As Glenn Frey said, he was tired to sing Take it Easy but he knew the people loved (and paid a lot) to hear it.

Probably the answer to what's next is another tour, if her health allows it. I'm not interested in her solo shows and never was that much, cause I like her far more within Fleetwood Mac. And now that her voice is not good, plus all the absurd things I read she said, no way.

Oh - I agree with this statement 100%. I'm just saying, going forward, and given the age of 75 years old, and now the passing of McVie, this is probably the best plan she has on the table.

Taking the 2018 events as water on the bridge - what else can we expect from any of them? The reality is that Stevie will probably only live another 10 years. Does she really want to deal with record labels, streaming services, music producers, recording studios, and record promotions?

At 75, do any of us?

She sounds awful now. The best plan would be to enjoy retirement.