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jbrownsjr 03-11-2023 12:58 PM
Stevie's beautiful Landslide Tribute
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ZEe33xcd4

Macfan4life 03-11-2023 03:42 PM
Meh
Beautiful photos but every photo or almost every photo Stevie is in it. You don't have to have a Phd in psychology to know whether consciously or unconsciously she is taking possession of Chris and the moment.
Before everyone flames me, I am not saying Stevie is not sincere. I am not saying the photos are not beautiful. But Chris's life did not wrap around Stevie. I think a much better collage of photos would have been more appropriate.
When my parents died, I put together huge collages of photos for the funeral home. Only a tiny minority of them had me in them. I documented their entire life. I would have shown Chris in Chicken Shack, Chris with Bob, Chris solo, Chris and John, Chris and Mick, Billy, Chris and her pups, and even Chris with Dennis. I would have also shown her sense of humor with a photo from the Love Will Show Us How video. Chris on that scooter running around her yard with her pups from 2004, etc.

While I am glad she stuck to a simple and elegant tribute with landslide, the presentation gets a C- from me. But this is the same people that photoshopped Prince and Stevie together for backdrops for the Prince tribute. Stevie dear, it does not have to be all about you. Celebrate their life not YOURS.

HomerMcvie 03-11-2023 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1283357)
Meh
Beautiful photos but every photo or almost every photo Stevie is in it. You don't have to have a Phd in psychology to know whether consciously or unconsciously she is taking possession of Chris and the moment.
Before everyone flames me, I am not saying Stevie is not sincere. I am not saying the photos are not beautiful. But Chris's life did not wrap around Stevie. I think a much better collage of photos would have been more appropriate.
When my parents died, I put together huge collages of photos for the funeral home. Only a tiny minority of them had me in them. I documented their entire life. I would have shown Chris in Chicken Shack, Chris with Bob, Chris solo, Chris and John, Chris and Mick, Billy, Chris and her pups, and even Chris with Dennis. I would have also shown her sense of humor with a photo from the Love Will Show Us How video. Chris on that scooter running around her yard with her pups from 2004, etc.

While I am glad she stuck to a simple and elegant tribute with landslide, the presentation gets a C- from me. But this is the same people that photoshopped Prince and Stevie together for backdrops for the Prince tribute. Stevie dear, it does not have to be all about you. Celebrate their life not YOURS with theirs.
Even though I'd love to flame you, I agree completely.

$HE MAKES EVERYTHING ABOUT HER. $he's a narcissist's narcissist. The poor old thing...

vermicious knid 03-11-2023 05:50 PM
The photographs were great. I'm sure the audience enjoyed seeing plenty of pictures of them together. I was hoping there would be at least one of the pictures from the 1987 photoshoot, and there was. One of them should have been a magazine cover, People or Rolling Stone or something: The Women of Fleetwood Mac.

BombaySapphire3 03-11-2023 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by vermicious knid (Post 1283359)
One of them should have been a magazine cover, People or Rolling Stone or something: The Women of Fleetwood Mac.
if that was the topic wouldn't they have to include Bekka:shrug::?

HomerMcvie 03-11-2023 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1283360)
if that was the topic wouldn't they have to include Bekka:shrug::?
Bravo!!!:woohoo:

vermicious knid 03-11-2023 09:47 PM
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I mean in 1987 when the photoshoot took place. One of the pictures in the tribute was from this photoshoot. As part of the promotion for Tango in the Night, I would have loved a magazine cover with this on it.

aleuzzi 03-12-2023 10:16 AM
Initially, I thought Stevie including herself in about 2/3 of the photos was an example of her characteristic (and infuriating) narcissism, but it WAS a Stevie show and those screaming, adoring fans were there for her. She was SHARING her space with Christine. That people were screaming “Christine!” as Stevie and her band took bows says the tribute accomplished that goal.

Believe me, I’m quick to criticize Stevie’s borderline delusional sense of self these days, but I saw the tribute as touching. Even if — and I’m saying IF — those tears were not genuine, the audience felt them and the moment.

jbrownsjr 03-12-2023 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1283357)
Meh
Beautiful photos but every photo or almost every photo Stevie is in it. You don't have to have a Phd in psychology to know whether consciously or unconsciously she is taking possession of Chris and the moment.
Before everyone flames me, I am not saying Stevie is not sincere. I am not saying the photos are not beautiful. But Chris's life did not wrap around Stevie. I think a much better collage of photos would have been more appropriate.
When my parents died, I put together huge collages of photos for the funeral home. Only a tiny minority of them had me in them. I documented their entire life. I would have shown Chris in Chicken Shack, Chris with Bob, Chris solo, Chris and John, Chris and Mick, Billy, Chris and her pups, and even Chris with Dennis. I would have also shown her sense of humor with a photo from the Love Will Show Us How video. Chris on that scooter running around her yard with her pups from 2004, etc.

While I am glad she stuck to a simple and elegant tribute with landslide, the presentation gets a C- from me. But this is the same people that photoshopped Prince and Stevie together for backdrops for the Prince tribute. Stevie dear, it does not have to be all about you. Celebrate their life not YOURS.
I agree with you about Stevie making everything about herself. The photos were wonderful and her tears at the end really set off my grief.

But no flaming here. You're absolutely right.

bombaysaffires 03-12-2023 03:43 PM
Agree about the photos.

But I did love the one newer one, taken after Christine returned, where Stevie is hugging her and they both seem to have very little makeup on. Lovely.

Macfan4life 03-12-2023 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1283394)
Agree about the photos.

But I did love the one newer one, taken after Christine returned, where Stevie is hugging her and they both seem to have very little makeup on. Lovely.
I love the video at the end of the Tango concert during Songbird where Chris comes and hugs Stevie. Those real photos would have went a long way compared to the touched studio ones. Show the love people not the glamour shots

0:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoT5Jggblro

jbrownsjr 03-12-2023 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1283396)
I love the video at the end of the Tango concert during Songbird where Chris comes and hugs Stevie. Those real photos would have went a long way compared to the touched studio ones. Show the love people not the glamour shots

0:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoT5Jggblro
She should have put the cover of BuckVie up there! :p

SteveMacD 03-12-2023 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1283373)
Initially, I thought Stevie including herself in about 2/3 of the photos was an example of her characteristic (and infuriating) narcissism, but it WAS a Stevie show and those screaming, adoring fans were there for her. She was SHARING her space with Christine. That people were screaming “Christine!” as Stevie and her band took bows says the tribute accomplished that goal.

Believe me, I’m quick to criticize Stevie’s borderline delusional sense of self these days, but I saw the tribute as touching. Even if — and I’m saying IF — those tears were not genuine, the audience felt them and the moment.
I was going to say something along these lines but this did it much better than I would have.

bwboy 03-12-2023 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1283357)
Meh
Beautiful photos but every photo or almost every photo Stevie is in it. You don't have to have a Phd in psychology to know whether consciously or unconsciously she is taking possession of Chris and the moment.
Before everyone flames me, I am not saying Stevie is not sincere. I am not saying the photos are not beautiful. But Chris's life did not wrap around Stevie. I think a much better collage of photos would have been more appropriate.
When my parents died, I put together huge collages of photos for the funeral home. Only a tiny minority of them had me in them. I documented their entire life. I would have shown Chris in Chicken Shack, Chris with Bob, Chris solo, Chris and John, Chris and Mick, Billy, Chris and her pups, and even Chris with Dennis. I would have also shown her sense of humor with a photo from the Love Will Show Us How video. Chris on that scooter running around her yard with her pups from 2004, etc.
Thanks for sharing that about your parents. Putting together collages like that can be cathartic when dealing with grief.

Although I agree with everything you said, I think it’s important to point out that what was appropriate for a funeral is much different than a concert. Fans paid big money to see Stevie in concert, and I don’t think it was egotistical that a majority of the pictures had Stevie with Christine. I thought the song and photos were beautifully done, there were a number of pictures of Christine I had never seen before.

One thing I really wish Stevie had done was played a Christine song instead of Running Down a Dream. Everywhere seems to be played, hate to say it, but everywhere these days, so that would have been a nice reminder for the crowd of Christine’s talent.

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1283407)
Thanks for sharing that about your parents. Putting together collages like that can be cathartic when dealing with grief.

Although I agree with everything you said, I think it’s important to point out that what was appropriate for a funeral is much different than a concert. Fans paid big money to see Stevie in concert, and I don’t think it was egotistical that a majority of the pictures had Stevie with Christine. I thought the song and photos were beautifully done, there were a number of pictures of Christine I had never seen before.

One thing I really wish Stevie had done was played a Christine song instead of Running Down a Dream. Everywhere seems to be played, hate to say it, but everywhere these days, so that would have been a nice reminder for the crowd of Christine’s talent.
BIG MONEY. These tickets were very pricey. I don't know that she could do a Christine song and make is listenable. If you listen to some of the clips, she's off key in a lot of places in her own material.

Some people liked Stop Draggin, but to me it was really bad. But, they are paying to see legends on stage and that's what they got. I guess a lot of Billy fans were upset she sang on one of his songs. But that's what a high end cash grab is. Nostalgia and legendary status.

Macfan4life 03-13-2023 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1283407)
Thanks for sharing that about your parents. Putting together collages like that can be cathartic when dealing with grief.

Although I agree with everything you said, I think it’s important to point out that what was appropriate for a funeral is much different than a concert. Fans paid big money to see Stevie in concert, and I don’t think it was egotistical that a majority of the pictures had Stevie with Christine. I thought the song and photos were beautifully done, there were a number of pictures of Christine I had never seen before.

One thing I really wish Stevie had done was played a Christine song instead of Running Down a Dream. Everywhere seems to be played, hate to say it, but everywhere these days, so that would have been a nice reminder for the crowd of Christine’s talent.
You are still missing the point. A memorial is a celebration of life regardless when the death happened. Stevie chose or her people chose glossy glamour shots of her and Stevie together. A bit of ego there regardless of how beautiful the photos are. Prince played on one Stevie track. They crossed paths a few times during their career. Not many photos of them together or none at all. Yet they were photoshopped together making it look like Prince played guitar in her If Anyone Falls video. Imagine if you die and someone photoshops you into the moon landing photo. Its almost a joke.
See a pattern? Its making it about HER just as much as the person in the memorial. That's wrong. Stevie was only a small part in Chris's life. Stevie was even a smaller part of Prince's life. Its Stevie's concert and no one better forget its all about Stevie.
That's all.

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 08:16 AM
By the way, Macfan. I was booking a trip to Vegas to see Bonnie Raitt. I know someone that deals with tickets for one of those stupid companies. Anywho, she was telling me that Stevie was in town too. And.... her show is 60% unsold. In talking about this, she said, "No opening act or other support act like Pretenders to draw in another segment of the market"

I decided to see Bonnie instead. $100 for front row second section behind main section. Small theater. I'm excited!! Last year Bonnie was in Los Angeles at the Greek and tickets were $500-750. Her new album is fantastic. I guess it also won a grammy. Yes, she still writes and creates new music.

HomerMcvie 03-13-2023 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1283424)
By the way, Macfan. I was booking a trip to Vegas to see Bonnie Raitt. I know someone that deals with tickets for one of those stupid companies. Anywho, she was telling me that Stevie was in town too. And.... her show is 60% unsold. In talking about this, she said, "No opening act or other support act like Pretenders to draw in another segment of the market"

I decided to see Bonnie instead. $100 for front row second section behind main section. Small theater. I'm excited!! Last year Bonnie was in Los Angeles at the Greek and tickets were $500-750. Her new album is fantastic. I guess it also won a grammy. Yes, she still writes and creates new music.
WHY would Bonnie still create new music? Stevie says that no one buys it! Stevie's show is 60% unsold?


:woohoo:

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1283425)
WHY would Bonnie still create new music? Stevie says that no one buys it! Stevie's show is 60% unsold?


:woohoo:
Because she still sounds fabulous and does indeed cover other people's comps.
The album has a few of her own songs. One of which won song of the year.
It's an absolutely stunning song. (This is a beautiful story)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skd0XR3twCA

BigAl84 03-13-2023 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1283425)
WHY would Bonnie still create new music? Stevie says that no one buys it! Stevie's show is 60% unsold?


:woohoo:
I'm not shocked for a minute that her ticket sales might not be great. Take a look at the Billy/Stevie show in Columbus. It's not setting the world on fire, $200 to be a country mile from the stage in the very back row.

Her ticket sales did really well last summer/fall because everyone was in a post pandemic ticket frenzy.

bwboy 03-13-2023 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1283420)
BIG MONEY. These tickets were very pricey. I don't know that she could do a Christine song and make is listenable. If you listen to some of the clips, she's off key in a lot of places in her own material.

Some people liked Stop Draggin, but to me it was really bad. But, they are paying to see legends on stage and that's what they got. I guess a lot of Billy fans were upset she sang on one of his songs. But that's what a high end cash grab is. Nostalgia and legendary status.
Sorry for the confusion- I didn’t mean that Stevie should have sang Everywhere. According to some reviews I read, before Stevie came out they played Tom Petty’s song Running Down a Dream over the speakers. I meant it would have been nice if they had played Everywhere instead.

I saw the duet between Billy and Stevie and thought it was cool. But then again, I’ve always been a fan of that sort of thing, seeing artists perform material not originally meant for them. Maybe that’s why I enjoyed the last FM tour so much. Although I’m not a huge Billy Joel fan, I thought he performed that song with gusto even though it was outside his element somewhat. You’re right, legendary status does play a role in all this.

I still think it would have been so much fun to have seen Billy and Stevie play Don’t Stop instead, not just as a tribute to Christine but because Billy on piano would have been such a natural!

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 08:49 AM
It sounded like bad karaoke to me. Did not sound like professionals were doing it, nor legends. Forced and all over the place.

But again, people are going to see them, not so much how they perform. So the bar gets lowered quite a bit.

Villavic 03-13-2023 09:06 AM
Stevie screwed it up so much that it's logical to see the reactions I'm reading, but I think it's too much for me and I even find it funny.

If she appears in the pictures with Christine, it's because of her huge ego.
If she doesn't appear, sure that confirms they were never best friends.
Whatever she does it's an opportunity for demonize her.

BombaySapphire3 03-13-2023 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1283424)
By the way, Macfan. I was booking a trip to Vegas to see Bonnie Raitt. I know someone that deals with tickets for one of those stupid companies. Anywho, she was telling me that Stevie was in town too. And.... her show is 60% unsold. In talking about this, she said, "No opening act or other support act like Pretenders to draw in another segment of the market"
.
Stevie just needs to retire ..it is getting to Baby Jane Hudson proportions.

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1283435)
Stevie just needs to retire ..it is getting to Baby Jane Hudson proportions.
But cha are in that chair, Blanch!!!

Macfan4life 03-13-2023 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1283434)
Stevie screwed it up so much that it's logical to see the reactions I'm reading, but I think it's too much for me and I even find it funny.

If she appears in the pictures with Christine, it's because of her huge ego.
If she doesn't appear, sure that confirms they were never best friends.
Whatever she does it's an opportunity for demonize her.
But what if she really is a demon?

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1283438)
But what if she really is a demon?
Goat demon???

Macfan4life 03-13-2023 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1283439)
Goat demon???
YES
Cast ye demons out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWJUemGWuvs

aleuzzi 03-13-2023 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1283434)
Stevie screwed it up so much that it's logical to see the reactions I'm reading, but I think it's too much for me and I even find it funny.

If she appears in the pictures with Christine, it's because of her huge ego.
If she doesn't appear, sure that confirms they were never best friends.
Whatever she does it's an opportunity for demonize her.
For some people, that will certainly be the case, just as for some people whatever Christine did was dull or tiresome or getting in the way of LB/SN greatness.

But I DO think the tribute was touching. I have not been a fan of Stevie's behavior these past 10-15 years, but I think she was generous to donate this space to Christine at her own concert. As I say earlier in this thread, the fact that people in the crowd were chanting "Christine!" as Stevie and her band took bows says that Stevie's generous gesture made an impact.

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1283441)
As I say earlier in this thread, the fact that people in the crowd were chanting "Christine!" as Stevie and her band took bows says that Stevie's generous gesture made an impact.
That's why she was crying at the end. :lol:

Macfan4life 03-13-2023 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1283443)
That's why she was crying at the end. :lol:
You are bad
:eek:

aleuzzi 03-13-2023 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1283443)
That's why she was crying at the end. :lol:
Touché! Very funny!

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1283445)
Touché! Very funny!
Imagine the news when someone told $tevie that Christine has another grammy.

bwboy 03-13-2023 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1283446)
Imagine the news when someone told $tevie that Christine has another grammy.
Are you serious or kidding? So you really think Stevie was jealous or resentful that Christine’s album won a Grammy? I don’t even know that Christine herself would have actually gotten a Grammy- wasn’t it a producer who was actually nominated? But more to the point, Christine is dead. As much as some people here hate Stevie, I’d like to think that folks can be reasonable. Stevie is genuinely sad, just like Mick and John and Lindsey, and it’s unfortunate that comments like that are making the rounds here. If people want to demonize Stevie, can you not use Christine to do so? Just continue complaining about how she destroyed FM. There’s plenty of fodder there and that seems to be a people pleasing subject on this message board.

And I don’t mean to single you out, jbrown. Your posts are mostly reasonable, I just chose to respond to your because it was the latest one that mentioned Christine. I just feel icky reading other people’s comments about Stevie “exploiting” Christine’s death because she is doing a tribute to her.

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1283447)
Are you serious or kidding? So you really think Stevie was jealous or resentful that Christine’s album won a Grammy? I don’t even know that Christine herself would have actually gotten a Grammy- wasn’t it a producer who was actually nominated? But more to the point, Christine is dead. As much as some people here hate Stevie, I’d like to think that folks can be reasonable. Stevie is genuinely sad, just like Mick and John and Lindsey, and it’s unfortunate that comments like that are making the rounds here. If people want to demonize Stevie, can you not use Christine to do so? Just continue complaining about how she destroyed FM. There’s plenty of fodder there and that seems to be a people pleasing subject on this message board.

And I don’t mean to single you out, jbrown. Your posts are mostly reasonable, I just chose to respond to your because it was the latest one that mentioned Christine. I just feel icky reading other people’s comments about Stevie “exploiting” Christine’s death because she is doing a tribute to her.
I don't feel singled out. I just see Nicks different than you. It obviously was a joke, but the joke is that she is so hungry for ego and attention, I could see her irritated and jealous of any attention or award Christine's music gets.

When Bill Clinton chose Don't Stop, Stevie kept acting like it was her song. The speeches at the end saying she brought Christine back. It goes on and on.

Stevie's tribute did get to me. I cried with her at the end of the song. I felt her pain. Some people see her even differently than I do. It's ok Bwboy. It's a forum. Nobody is trying to offend you or me.

HomerMcvie 03-13-2023 08:50 PM
BW, we make fun of Stevie because she's become ridiculous. A caricature. She IS a total attention wh*re, and the world is all about her.

bwboy 03-13-2023 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1283448)
I don't feel singled out. I just see Nicks different than you. It obviously was a joke, but the joke is that she is so hungry for ego and attention, I could see her irritated and jealous of any attention or award Christine's music gets.

When Bill Clinton chose Don't Stop, Stevie kept acting like it was her song. The speeches at the end saying she brought Christine back. It goes on and on.

Stevie's tribute did get to me. I cried with her at the end of the song. I felt her pain. Some people see her even differently than I do. It's ok Bwboy. It's a forum. Nobody is trying to offend you or me.
Thank you for your sincere reply, jbrowns. I’ve been told I have rose colored glasses here, but the fact is, I want to believe that Stevie has good intentions by including a tribute to Christine. Just like I want to believe that Lindsey would have good intentions if he did a tribute to Christine. Or Demi Lovato if she did a tribute. It just isn’t hard for me to believe that Stevie liked Christine, because I believe that Christine was good to Stevie. Same thing with Lindsey. I believed Mick was sincere when he performed his tribute to Christine at the Grammys, along with Bonnie and Sheryl. 100%. I don’t think he did it so he could be on TV. If believing they truly liked Christine means I have rose colored glasses on, I’m fine with that.

Again, thanks for your sincere reply, and I’ll continue working on not being so sensitive.

StevieandChris 03-13-2023 09:01 PM
"BW, we make fun of Stevie because she's become ridiculous. A caricature. She IS a total attention wh*re, and the world is all about her."

At this point you and many of the other regulars here are caricatures yourselves, and just as much of an attention wh*re.. You have been posting almost the same insults for close to 10 years and your observations are just as stale as the setlists you complain about. Jesus, MOVE on.

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 09:03 PM
Stevie loved Christine like a big sister. Those tears were real.

Some of her show is tributes now. Tom Petty, Christine, Prince.
I believe she wanted to honor Christine. People eat it up, it's fine.

If Lindsey does a tribute to her, it's going to be displayed to about 200 people. :laugh:

jbrownsjr 03-13-2023 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1283453)
"BW, we make fun of Stevie because she's become ridiculous. A caricature. She IS a total attention wh*re, and the world is all about her."

At this point you and many of the other regulars here are caricatures yourselves, and just as much of an attention wh*re.. You have been posting almost the same insults for close to 10 years and your observations are just as stale as the setlists you complain about. Jesus, MOVE on.
Wow! where have you been? It's been a minute. :wavey:


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