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sue 02-15-2023 05:18 PM

Just a tune, gets lodged for the day.
 
Some days I don’t think about Fmac, not one bit, don’t even log on toThe Ledge.
Other days it’s just a fleeting thought.

Then, some days a song pops into my head just as I’m getting up.
And today is one of those days…

“Say you will”, all day…all day..
Not even a great favourite of mine, Not even the right lyrics but it’s just hanging in there all day..
Makes me smile.

BLY 02-15-2023 05:21 PM

Mine always seems to be EVERYWHERE.

FuzzyPlum 02-15-2023 05:47 PM

Had exactly that today….
Over and Over.
Was singing it in my head all day at work. When I got in I had to search it on YouTube.

vermicious knid 02-17-2023 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1282871)
Some days I don’t think about Fmac, not one bit, don’t even log on toThe Ledge.

I've been gone from this forum for eleven years, and was just recently compelled to come back. I hadn't stopped listening to the music, I think my life just got busier so I dropped visiting here. I've been spending a lot of time lately "fixing" the various albums in my mind to be the way they should be, and I think that prompted my return.

aleuzzi 02-17-2023 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1282871)
Some days I don’t think about Fmac, not one bit, don’t even log on toThe Ledge.
Other days it’s just a fleeting thought.

Then, some days a song pops into my head just as I’m getting up.
And today is one of those days…

“Say you will”, all day…all day..
Not even a great favourite of mine, Not even the right lyrics but it’s just hanging in there all day..
Makes me smile.

I often have had “Say You Will,” apropos of nothing, enter and stay in my head for hours. It’s definitely one of those songs...

HomerMcvie 02-18-2023 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1282917)
I often have had “Say You Will,” apropos of nothing, enter and stay in my head for hours. It’s definitely one of those songs...

Same. And those damned kids voices at the end. THAT'S what I can't lose.

Oddly, I watched DR last night. It's one of my least favorite things, but I needed something I hadn't watched a billion times before.

And don't get me started, but that STUPID Tusk dance...ridic.... this really was a special needs band.

BombaySapphire3 02-18-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1282918)
Same. And those damned kids voices at the end. THAT'S what I can't lose.
.

Those are kids voices at the end? All this time I thought it was some type of Madagascan primate.:shrug:

HomerMcvie 02-18-2023 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1282919)
Those are kids voices at the end? All this time I thought it was some type of Madagascan primate.:shrug:

It was the same $tevie that did the sex grunts on Big Love.

Or $tevie on helium.

Take your pick...

The Catdancer 02-19-2023 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1282919)
Those are kids voices at the end? All this time I thought it was some type of Madagascan primate.:shrug:

I think it was her niece with a friend along with John's daughter Molly.

Villavic 02-19-2023 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282924)
I think it was her niece with a friend along with John's daughter Molly.

That's right, or so I read. And according to Mick's first book, the Big Love grunts is Lindsey's voice sampled through a variable-speed oscillator.

The Catdancer 02-19-2023 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1282930)
That's right, or so I read. And according to Mick's first book, the Big Love grunts is Lindsey's voice sampled through a variable-speed oscillator.

There's a short segment of the kids singing in the DR documentary.
Everybody (me included) thought that it was Stevie too. I had no idea he could make his voice sound like hers.

aleuzzi 02-19-2023 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282931)
There's a short segment of the kids singing in the DR documentary.
Everybody (me included) thought that it was Stevie too. I had no idea he could make his voice sound like hers.

Yes, it’s Molly McVie and Stevie’s niece, I think.

DownOnRodeo 02-19-2023 06:36 PM

Walk a Thin Line

The Catdancer 02-20-2023 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1282934)
Yes, it’s Molly McVie and Stevie’s niece, I think.

Yep and a friend of Stevie's niece, I think.

I've never liked that song. It sounds like bubblegum pop.

HomerMcvie 02-20-2023 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282940)
Yep and a friend of Stevie's niece, I think.

I've never liked that song. It sounds like bubblegum pop.

$he was praying to the commercial gods. But you're right, it does sound like bubblegum crap.

Villavic 02-20-2023 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282940)
Yep and a friend of Stevie's niece, I think.

I've never liked that song. It sounds like bubblegum pop.

I always felt it was the less "Fleetwood Mac" song, or single, I've ever heard.

The Catdancer 02-20-2023 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1282941)
$he was praying to the commercial gods. But you're right, it does sound like bubblegum crap.

Right along with Silver Girl, another doozy.

The Catdancer 02-20-2023 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1282944)
I always felt it was the less "Fleetwood Mac" song, or single, I've ever heard.

It doesn't sound like Fleetwood Mac at all. It sounds like something they fabricated really quickly, trying to have something, anything commercial. It doesn't fit with the album.

HomerMcvie 02-20-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282940)
Yep and a friend of Stevie's niece, I think.

I've never liked that song. It sounds like bubblegum pop.

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282945)
Right along with Silver Girl, another doozy.

$he really brought her A game to SYW(she hasn't had an A game since Wild Heart).:lol:

jmn3 02-20-2023 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282946)
It doesn't sound like Fleetwood Mac at all. It sounds like something they fabricated really quickly, trying to have something, anything commercial. It doesn't fit with the album.

It always sounded like Stevie trying to write like Christine which just doesn’t work. I never thought the song was good enough to be on the album let alone to be the albums name. If I trim the album down, I think that and Silver Girl are among the first to go. The fact that they played it at every show was also lame - Thrown Down or EFO would’ve been far better and more Stevie than SYW could ever be.

sue 02-20-2023 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1282941)
$he was praying to the commercial gods. But you're right, it does sound like bubblegum crap.

No, Mony, mony is Bubblegum ..
Though that’s good to dance to..
So I’m not agreeing it’s all crap.

HomerMcvie 02-20-2023 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1282953)
No, Mony, mony is Bubblegum ..
Though that’s good to dance to..
So I’m not agreeing it’s all crap.

Good thing I wasn't taking a poll!:laugh:

The Catdancer 02-20-2023 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1282949)
$he really brought her A game to SYW(she hasn't had an A game since Wild Heart).:lol:

I thought RAL was a good album. Very dated with all the synthesizers and all but still a good album. TOSOTM was a reasonably good album but it went downhill from there.
I did like IYD when it was first released but when I listened to it the other day, I liked just a few songs. Sadly her A game has vanished :distress:

The Catdancer 02-20-2023 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1282952)
It always sounded like Stevie trying to write like Christine which just doesn’t work. I never thought the song was good enough to be on the album let alone to be the albums name. If I trim the album down, I think that and Silver Girl are among the first to go. The fact that they played it at every show was also lame - Thrown Down or EFO would’ve been far better and more Stevie than SYW could ever be.

Exactly, she tried to write like Chris but it went nowhere. I hated it right from the start. I was like wtf is this?? When they played it at my shows I went to the bathroom and got another drink. And the "lasso dance" (that's what I call it) during the chorus was nothing short of cringe worthy.
DR and SG are throw away songs.

HomerMcvie 02-20-2023 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282957)
I thought RAL was a good album. Very dated with all the synthesizers and all but still a good album. TOSOTM was a reasonably good album but it went downhill from there.
I did like IYD when it was first released but when I listened to it the other day, I liked just a few songs. Sadly her A game has vanished :distress:

RAL was tolerable. I'm sorry but OSOTM blew goats. It ended my fandom of her.

The Catdancer 02-21-2023 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1282959)
RAL was tolerable. I'm sorry but OSOTM blew goats. It ended my fandom of her.

For me it was Street Angel, one of the most horrible albums ever made.

jbrownsjr 02-21-2023 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282961)
For me it was Street Angel, one of the most horrible albums ever made.

Yeah, this album makes RAL a dream.

soul_drifter333 02-21-2023 11:00 AM

All of those albums have bad songwriting, but I least like the production on Street Angel. Next I would say is OSOTM and then RAL. Jimmy was gone so there was no one to give her constructive feedback, a least, that she would listen to. Just a mountain and coke and the hang-oners.

I recently listened to SYW after a long break and was shocked how bad her vocals are on it. The songs that I thought I liked (Thrown Down & Not Make Believe) sounded so nasally that I couldn't even listen to them. Nothing like the voice I fell in love with in the early days. But for me the absolute worse is Live In Chicago. I couldn't even make it through it even once! Her first album that was released that I couldn't even listen to. I was shocked and bewildered how bad her vocals had became. Closely followed by the live 24 Karat album (I say Hey Baby). Completely unlistenable. I still enjoy the early work, but I'm protective of my memories and stay away from anything from the last several decades.

jbrownsjr 02-21-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by soul_drifter333 (Post 1282963)
All of those albums have bad songwriting, but I least like the production on Street Angel. Next I would say is OSOTM and then RAL. Jimmy was gone so there was no one to give her constructive feedback, a least, that she would listen to. Just a mountain and coke and the hang-oners.

I recently listened to SYW after a long break and was shocked how bad her vocals are on it. The songs that I thought I liked (Thrown Down & Not Make Believe) sounded so nasally that I couldn't even listen to them. Nothing like the voice I fell in love with in the early days. But for me the absolute worse is Live In Chicago. I couldn't even make it through it even once! Her first album that was released that I couldn't even listen to. I was shocked and bewildered how bad her vocals had became. Closely followed by the live 24 Karat album (I say Hey Baby). Completely unlistenable. I still enjoy the early work, but I'm protective of my memories and stay away from anything from the last several decades.

It's amazing how much I loved everything she had done to a certain point, then... I just couldn't stand to listen to her solo work. SYW is somewhat tolerable, but it's just simply too nasal for me. She's so lucky she's an icon because a lot is forgiven.

bombaysaffires 02-21-2023 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Catdancer (Post 1282958)
Exactly, she tried to write like Chris but it went nowhere. I hated it right from the start. I was like wtf is this?? When they played it at my shows I went to the bathroom and got another drink. And the "lasso dance" (that's what I call it) during the chorus was nothing short of cringe worthy.
DR and SG are throw away songs.

oh I still like Destiny Rules. :eek:

snroxman 02-21-2023 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1282871)
“Say you will”, all day…all day..
Not even a great favourite of mine, Not even the right lyrics but it’s just hanging in there all day..
Makes me smile.

Same here! I liked that we ended up with 2 remixed versions (Chris Lord-Alge?) - a fade version and an edit that ends with "Say You Will, Say You Will Give Me One More Chance".

WalkAThinLine. 02-21-2023 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by soul_drifter333 (Post 1282963)

I recently listened to SYW after a long break and was shocked how bad her vocals are on it. The songs that I thought I liked (Thrown Down & Not Make Believe) sounded so nasally that I couldn't even listen to them.

Upon watching the Destiny Rules, I also arrived at that same realization. It's quite shocking how fast her voice deteriorated between The Dance and Say You Will. The band missed a massive opportunity to immediately follow up The Dance with another studio album. Had that been the case, perhaps Stevie's vocals would have been more serviceable.

The Catdancer 02-22-2023 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1282974)
oh I still like Destiny Rules. :eek:

I just noticed my mistake. I meant SYW, not DR because that's a good song. SYW is bubblegum garbage.

jbrownsjr 02-22-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1282978)
Upon watching the Destiny Rules, I also arrived at that same realization. It's quite shocking how fast her voice deteriorated between The Dance and Say You Will. The band missed a massive opportunity to immediately follow up The Dance with another studio album. Had that been the case, perhaps Stevie's vocals would have been more serviceable.

I really wish Christine had stayed after a 40 date tour.
Then a new FM album, and then another tour.

Skip the whole SYW.

Penguin Emeritus 02-22-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1282985)
I really wish Christine had stayed after a 40 date tour.
Then a new FM album, and then another tour.

Skip the whole SYW.

I was really sad when Chris left after the Dance tour also. imo they had such momentum to go ahead and make a great album together.

But I heard from a source around that time, that a big reason why she left was because her marriage was becoming a reeeaaal sh*tshow. She was still hoping it could be salvaged, but she knew it couldn't be saved by staying on the road or focusing on a new album etc. She wanted to completely change her life and BE THERE. Turned out it couldn't be salvaged anyway.

makes me angry that she wasted what might have been terrific years for Fleetwood Mac on someone who wasn't worth it, to a person who really had no intention of fixing anything. I hope she at least found some happiness in those years fixing up her house and finally living near her amazing brother.

--Lis


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