Rumours 46 Years Today and Lindsey Today
 

Rumours was released 46 years ago today, February 4, 1977. Today, the first member of the band to acknowledge its anniversary was Lindsey. Interpret his post through your own lenses and experiences.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CoPq4MXKspF/?hl=en

He definitely meant Rumours is more loved now than ever before.

I also think today is five years since MusiCares!

I saw this today on Lindsey's twitter and was going to post but Rumours has been dissected to death around here. Not much more to say. I do agree the 5 year anniversary of MusicCares is almost as newsworthy in changing the band's swansong into a dysfunctional smelly turd.

My post has little intention in dissecting Rumours again. (which is brilliant in infinite ways) It was more intended to spark discussion on Lindsey’s softening and intention behind his social media post.

Lindsey spent years publicly running from Rumours. On its most recent anniversary, post a coming together of the four remaining living band members, he was the one to publicly write how much love there is for this work and how strong that love is today. Immediately followed by likes and posts by his two daughters.

The man who spent years trying to run from this album and it’s pop success,
as he wanted to build independent credibility, and Rolling Stone once called “the angriest dog in rock” has come home to its brilliance, societal significance, and its indelible mark on everything he has today.

In my opinion, he yearns that the last public incarnation of Fleetwood Mac include his name. It matters to him. The songs that shaped how so many of us hear music and would never have sounded as they did without him, define his legacy both publicly, and yes, privately. I believe he is driven to be known and documented as the last guitar player to play in Fleetwood Mac even if it is one song, one night.

You're right. But you know what, to this day, when people post pictures of Fleetwood Mac, they're not posting pictures of the Finn/Mike lineup. Or t-shirts in stores don't have Mike and Neil on them. The pictures are of the 75 lineup. That 2018 lineup never even had a live album or dvd. 2018 was a one time deal. In my view, it's like Eagles now: Eagles are Don, Joe, and Timothy with Deacon and Vince. I know Neil and Mike are listed as members of FM but there's no really no difference. Vince sings the same amount of songs that Neil sang, and maybe more. So 2018 FM to me was Mick, John, Chris, Stevie with Neil and Mike.

Mick's restaurant in Hawaii has no photos of the 2018 lineup but plenty of 1975 lineup. And most importantly, Fleetwood Mac hasn't released a new song since 2013, a song which Lindsey was on.

In honor of groundhog day, this would be nearly the same as the first time it happened. See- Bob Welch.

Deacon left The Eagles some time back.

We knew 2018 was Fakewood Mac. We knew it then, and we know it now.

Here's video of Deacon with Eagles a couple months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCC69XKLFFs

He also wasn't an Eagle... he was a "with"

LOL Christine McVie wasn’t in Fleetwood Mac in 2018?

Alright, fine, I’m ok being the only person here who says Christine, John, Mick, and Stevie were Fleetwood Mac in 2018. Last person standing LOL

Now refresh my memory, was it Fakewood Mac when Lindsey, Stevie, John, and Mick toured between 2000-2013 or whenever? I can never keep it straight, all the conditions which make it Fleetwood Mac vs Fakewood Mac.

I think if someone quits the band right before a tour, it’s still FM, unless they weren’t allowed to record but didn’t want to tour? Or if they were fired, then it’s not Fleetwood Mac. Which means when Bob Weston was fired, they were no longer Fleetwood Mac?

Are Neil and Mike members of Fleetwood Mac? Their live versions of 75-87 songs sounded like the records to me. Didn't Lindsey ruin all of the band's songs with his playing and arrangements?

They could have re-recorded the songs to sound like Mike and Neil. They had plenty of time before the tour to do that too.

I’d say Fleetwood Mac as a group doesn’t exist anymore, primarily because Christine has died.

But I do know that I saw Fleetwood Mac on their last tour in 2019- Christine was there, and Mick was there, and Stevie was there, and John was there just like Dorothy at the end of the Wizard of Oz LOL!

Sure they sang cover songs- Go Insane and Stand Back, whoops I mean Don’t Dream It’s Over and Free Falling. Darn it, I guess between those four songs and Blue Letter and the Farmer’s Daughter, well cover songs aren’t entirely new to any incarnation of FM.

UnwindedDreams, please post what you think of the tribute to Christine when it airs, I’m looking forward to hearing what people think.

Heck no! Well, Lindsey might have ruined Never Going Back Again, but other than that, heck no!

I'm quite well aware that he was a with.

He officially left the band April 6th of last year.

Mike and Neil weren't members. Only fulfilling tour obligations.

You forget the context. This was not a band on the upswing or many years of viability left. Many speculated the 2018 tour would be their last because of their age and it surely looks that way. John barely made it through the 2018 tour after cancer treatment.
So your analogies of Lindsey, Stevie, or Christine leaving voluntarily many moons ago cant relate to 2018. The On With The Show 2014-2015 tour shocked the world and their was renewed interest in the band. It was their most successful world tour ever. It prompted speculation of a final album and tour. Soon the final album was in doubt and then the final tour was almost in doubt because of the unhappiness of one member. We know why Bob Weston was fired but we still dont know why Lindsey was fired. For months the story kept changing. Then finally it was revealed Stevie's manager told the band she was never going to share a stage with Lindsey again. Oh no! A world tour was already booked. What could they do? Tens of millions was at stake. Their solution was to hire replacements for the tour. Few believed Mick when they said they were permanent members. Half a decade later, they have never recorded together or appeared on the same stage again. Now a pivotal member has died and John will never tour again.
You cant put the genie back in the bottle. Was it really worth it for their swansong and final act? Its probably the dumbest firing in rock history. You have one last tour and instead of a farewell tour its Fakewood Mac. Thanks $tevie.
Stevie and Lindsey dont even see eachother on tour except on stage. They have went through lots of drama for decades. What changed? I dont find it a coincidence the band went on without her in the studio. No doubt this jealousy was too much for Stevie to take. It renewed her rage at Lindsey in a new light. For the first time ever, the band did not wait for her. It drove her nuts. I would bet my life if there was no Buck/Vie album, the tour would have resumed with Lindsey without incident.

I'm not mentioning the three covers they did on the tour - which I saw all of them performed.

I'm just saying that the songs they performed did not sound different from the record versions. Gold Dust Woman sounded exactly like Rumours, but for the crackhead dance accompaniment. The new lineup produced nothing creatively.

Lindsey was fired because he didn't kiss Stevie's ring like everyone else did. And he paid the price for it. If Lindsey would have said "Stevie, I think 24 Karat Gold was your best album" "Stevie, your stories before songs are so brilliant and exciting" "Stevie, can we do more of your solo songs in the Fleetwood Mac show?", he'd still be in the band.

BW lives in the same fantasy world as the old goat.

He'll defend her with his dying bleat.

I mean breath.

Saying Christine was in Fleetwood Mac in 2019 is not defending Stevie. They are two very different things. If you think a band with Christine McVie, John McVie, and Mick Fleetwood was not worthy or good enough to be called Fleetwood Mac, I think you’re wrong. Very wrong, in fact.

What art do these ARTISTS have to show from this grouping? NONE. A big pile of money.

BuckVie is art that came from FM, sans goat.
Their swan song. Thanks a lot, $tevie!

You are missing the point.
If Chris was fired the same way that Lindsey was and replaced with Sheryl Crow and Sharon Celani, to just fulfill their legal obligations for one final world tour then I would say the same thing.....Fakewood Mac. Why ruin your last moment as a band because of petty jealousy and blackmail and extortion.
Now you will be whipped with chiffon until Jane is performed in concert.

I’m not missing the point, I understand what you’re saying.

I’ll do you one better- let’s say Stevie was the one who was fired, and she was replaced by Sheryl Crow and Sharon Celani. Would you still consider them Fleetwood Mac? Because Christine McVie, John McVie, Mick Fleetwood, and Lindsey Buckingham would have still been in the band.

Or are you saying that you wouldn’t consider them Fleetwood Mac anymore, but Fakewood Mac?

“Find Your Way Back Home” was a good song. Plus, the new guys have released albums since the tour which likely have songs intended for Fleetwood Mac.

Actually, thanks a lot Stevie, because I’m glad she wasn’t on that album.

Find Your Way Back Home is a Neil Finn song that never got played live.

I’m on record here in posts a long time ago saying that I’d have the same repulsion at the act if Stevie had been the one fired. At the point we’re talking about in 2018 the only reason the band should have carried on without any of the five “Rumours era” bandmates would be if someone elected on their own to leave. I think that basically for any time since The Dance. They cemented at that point that Fleetwood Mac is these five and that the Rumours era was the definitive version of the band in their opinion.

Implying that song is even remotely a Fleetwood Mac song or suggesting it ‘counts’ toward some type of creative recording amongst the members of the 2018-19 iteration of Fleetwood Mac is the biggest stretch I’ve seen here in awhile.

If somehow Chris or Lindsey had the same power as Stevie and blackmailed the band to fire Stevie for their last tour and hired a Stevie replacement to sing her songs.....ABSOLUTELY I would call it Fakewood Mac. The replacement is hired ONLY as a contractual obligation and the person was replaced against their will.

I’m glad to hear that you and Manfan4life feel that way- I like consistency LOL!

I feel that just like a person has the right to quit, the other people have a right to fire someone. Whether someone quits or is fired, the outcome, the end result, is the same. But if you guys really think you would call a lineup with John, Mick, Christine, and Lindsey and whomever replaced Stevie Fakewood Mac, well then my job here is done LOL!

It has Neil Finn, Stevie Nicks, Christine McVie, and Mike Campbell.

No bigger a stretch than “Make Me A Mask” or “Down Endless Street” being Fleetwood Mac songs.

lmao seems some people are intent on having exact same discussion in every single thread. :shrug::]

Getting fired and quitting are never the same thing. It would be Fakewood if any of the 5 were tossed out by the other 4 and not of their own choice. If Stevie said she was done and left the band (which she should have done), and the other four decided to go on as a foursome or with someone else added, that would’ve been different.

Except both of those songs were released by Fleetwood Mac.

Actually, I'm also glad $he wasn't on it.

BUT, it should have been a FM labeled album.

Referring to me, I guess. That’s ok- I was responding to someone who brought up Fakewood Mac in this thread; I didn’t pull it out of thin air and drag it into this thread.

And it does seem relevant, in a thread marked Rumours 46 Years Today and Lindsey Today.

Cute photo Mick posted of the Rumours boys:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...86992239453340

I saw that photo. Looks like Tusk years.

What would have been really beautiful is if he posted a photo from the LBCM recording days with Christine in the photo.

He doesn't miss those years. War was happening.

It’s either 1978 (end of Rumours tour) or 1979. Mick’s perm had an expiration date :)

Great point. "I don't get their premise."