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Macfan4life 11-04-2022 06:46 AM

1977 Australian interview
 
I really enjoyed this interview. I love seeing how young they were and their mid 70s fashions. Chris as usual has drink in hand. I found her passive aggressive humor style hilarious here. The interviewer asks about having credibility with ladies in rock and roll and going on the road with them. Chris responds, "I had already been in the band for a good while as a "lady." :lol:
Chris and Stevie have some great answers.

It was the 70s and sexism even with questions are funny looking back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLaWDjNLC_4

DownOnRodeo 11-04-2022 09:00 AM

Lindsey: "The new album [ed: Tusk] hopefully won't take ten months [to record]."

:laugh:

Lindsey's voice is so high, like he'd just smoked helium instead of weed.

Note that Lindsey defers to the "ladies" to answer that question about women in rock bands. Ahead of his time there. Or just blanking from jetlag.

What a glowing trio.
As for that hideous butterfly (moth) background they put them in front of...

jbrownsjr 11-04-2022 09:09 AM

I love the way she says, "Chicken Shack"

Villavic 11-04-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1278808)
Lindsey: "The new album [ed: Tusk] hopefully won't take ten months [to record]."
.

Well according to Mick's book "That summer, we took a break from recording and embarked on the Penguin Country Summer Safari 1978 .... By early 1979, many of the songs for the new album had been dreamed up and were in various states of production.".

And Tusk was released on october 1979. So in calendar terms, including the breaks, post recording production, etc., it took more than a year.

Macfan4life 11-04-2022 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DownOnRodeo (Post 1278808)
Lindsey: "The new album [ed: Tusk] hopefully won't take ten months [to record]."

:laugh:

Lindsey's voice is so high, like he'd just smoked helium instead of weed.

Note that Lindsey defers to the "ladies" to answer that question about women in rock bands. Ahead of his time there. Or just blanking from jetlag.

What a glowing trio.
As for that hideous butterfly (moth) background they put them in front of...

I love it. Its so 70s and if you were alive then you can relate. Lindsey's shirt is a keeper too. In the 70s butterflies were everywhere from patches on jeans, black light posters, and bumper stickers, T shirts, etc.
The backdrop fits perfectly with their outfits. Its 1977 of course :)
Have you seen 1977 living room furniture? :lol:
The TV sitcom Threes Company debuted in 1977 with their iconic butterfly picture on the living room wall.
I can almost smell the pot that reeked from that butterfly moth background :lol:

sue 11-04-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1278811)
I love the way she says, "Chicken Shack"

She says the word …money…just as I do.
I have my leg pulled by my family all the time, for pronouncing it …munay..
….Midlands accent..

jbrownsjr 11-04-2022 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1278817)
She says the word …money…just as I do.
I have my leg pulled by my family all the time, for pronouncing it …munay..
….Midlands accent..

The brits also say, "Fweetwood Mac" if listen close.

aleuzzi 11-04-2022 09:19 PM

You can tell Stevie was offended by the idiocy of the “credibility of ladies in a rock band” question. The way she turns away from the interviewer towards Lindsey with a face like “can you believe this twit?” Christine’s response is amazeballs—calm, cool, yet politely withering, while also complementary to her and Steve’s trailblazing.

Steviegirl 11-06-2022 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1278814)
I love it. Its so 70s and if you were alive then you can relate. Lindsey's shirt is a keeper too. In the 70s butterflies were everywhere from patches on jeans, black light posters, and bumper stickers, T shirts, etc.
The backdrop fits perfectly with their outfits. Its 1977 of course :)
Have you seen 1977 living room furniture? :lol:
The TV sitcom Threes Company debuted in 1977 with their iconic butterfly picture on the living room wall.
I can almost smell the pot that reeked from that butterfly moth background :lol:

Yes!!! to all of this!
Love this video! I thought I had seen everything, but I've never seen this.

Hawkeye 11-07-2022 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1278825)
You can tell Stevie was offended by the idiocy of the “credibility of ladies in a rock band” question. The way she turns away from the interviewer towards Lindsey with a face like “can you believe this twit?” Christine’s response is amazeballs—calm, cool, yet politely withering, while also complementary to her and Steve’s trailblazing.

See I think Chris looks WAY more annoyed! I see it in her eyes. And her incredibly funny, I was in the band for quite some time as a lady. Lindsey also seemed shocked by the question and immediately turns to Chris.

That moment was my favorite of the interview along with Stevie almost perfectly predicting the amount of time it would take to record Tusk and Lindsey saying it would take that long :laugh:

jbrownsjr 11-08-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 1278889)
See I think Chris looks WAY more annoyed! I see it in her eyes. And her incredibly funny, I was in the band for quite some time as a lady. Lindsey also seemed shocked by the question and immediately turns to Chris.

That moment was my favorite of the interview along with Stevie almost perfectly predicting the amount of time it would take to record Tusk and Lindsey saying it would take that long :laugh:

God, where have you been. Good to see your post!! :xoxo:

michelej1 11-11-2022 05:19 PM

Chris is like, as a MUSICIAN. Not just a back up singer and points out that Stevie is also a front line singer and writer.

Chris was definitely in her toes.

cbBen 11-15-2022 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1278825)
You can tell Stevie was offended by the idiocy of the “credibility of ladies in a rock band” question. The way she turns away from the interviewer towards Lindsey with a face like “can you believe this twit?” Christine’s response is amazeballs—calm, cool, yet politely withering, while also complementary to her and Steve’s trailblazing.

Wasn't Heart well-established and successful by this point?

aleuzzi 11-15-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1279009)
Wasn't Heart well-established and successful by this point?

By 1977–yes. But the question was regarding Stevie’s entry into the band as a “lady” and Christine’s presence long before that. 1975, Heart was working towards their imminent breakthrough. They, too, experienced sexism. The song “Barracuda” was all about it.

Bottom line: Chris was a singer and player in an established rock band years before the 1976 breakthrough for Heart. She wasn’t objectified the way many male critics and PR folks objectified the Wilson sisters. Stevie was a sex symbol, but her image was more mystical than siren.

David 11-15-2022 02:18 PM

Now isn’t this Molly Meldrum interviewing them — the guy who used to flirt (successfully) with Stevie?

Now I certainly agree that Madame Nicks was a creative drag on the band after her heyday, owing in large part to her narcissistic attitude. She may seem plagued by self doubts, but I bet she really isn’t. She seems to have only a very narrow type of self awareness.

Now I think that she is living the life she absolutely wants to live. All this nonsense about children and families and so forth and Stevie pining away for “what might have been” is ridiculous. She is absolutely content where she is. Remember when Lindsey put out the word that his relationship with Carol had ended? He was deluged with fan offers of marriage. Had Stevie really wanted to, she could have snapped her fingers and summoned thousands of offers of marriage — probably from every high-octane multimillionaire in the entertainment business. None of this crap of standing in the driveway waving goodbye to Stevie as she jets off. That is Stevie mythmaking. She chose not to marry because she didn’t want to marry. You’re rewriting her narrative by making her the dissipated, embittered old woman who longs for children. Au contraire, she is having a ball. She is Queen Bee, Matriarch of Music.

Macfan4life 11-15-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1279015)
Now isn’t this Molly Meldrum interviewing them — the guy who used to flirt (successfully) with Stevie?

Now I certainly agree that Madame Nicks was a creative drag on the band after her heyday, owing in large part to her narcissistic attitude. She may seem plagued by self doubts, but I bet she really isn’t. She seems to have only a very narrow type of self awareness.

Now I think that she is living the life she absolutely wants to live. All this nonsense about children and families and so forth and Stevie pining away for “what might have been” is ridiculous. She is absolutely content where she is. Remember when Lindsey put out the word that his relationship with Carol had ended? He was deluged with fan offers of marriage. Had Stevie really wanted to, she could have snapped her fingers and summoned thousands of offers of marriage — probably from every high-octane multimillionaire in the entertainment business. None of this crap of standing in the driveway waving goodbye to Stevie as she jets off. That is Stevie mythmaking. She chose not to marry because she didn’t want to marry. You’re rewriting her narrative by making her the dissipated, embittered old woman who longs for children. Au contraire, she is having a ball. She is Queen Bee, Matriarch of Music.

I do agree Stevie is very happy. She does not need FM and no longer feels guilty about it to be loyal to them as a point. If the Mac disbanded after Lindsey was fired just maybe she would have felt guilty. But the band carried on without Lindsey by Stevie's power. She's got power and is not shy about using it. If you want to work with her, its going to be HER way.

sue 11-15-2022 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1279015)
Now isn’t this Molly Meldrum interviewing them — the guy who used to flirt (successfully) with Stevie?

Now I certainly agree that Madame Nicks was a creative drag on the band after her heyday, owing in large part to her narcissistic attitude. She may seem plagued by self doubts, but I bet she really isn’t. She seems to have only a very narrow type of self awareness.

Now I think that she is living the life she absolutely wants to live. All this nonsense about children and families and so forth and Stevie pining away for “what might have been” is ridiculous. She is absolutely content where she is. Remember when Lindsey put out the word that his relationship with Carol had ended? He was deluged with fan offers of marriage. Had Stevie really wanted to, she could have snapped her fingers and summoned thousands of offers of marriage — probably from every high-octane multimillionaire in the entertainment business. None of this crap of standing in the driveway waving goodbye to Stevie as she jets off. That is Stevie mythmaking. She chose not to marry because she didn’t want to marry. You’re rewriting her narrative by making her the dissipated, embittered old woman who longs for children. Au contraire, she is having a ball. She is Queen Bee, Matriarch of Music.

I absolutely agree she is living the life of her dreams, allegedly.
She is only responsible to her, No one else.

Two things though ..what do you mean by…” a narrow type of self awareness “ I don’t quite understand what you mean.
and why did she never marry or at least in later life have a long term partner ?
Seems sad really.
I think she is a sad person.

HomerMcvie 11-15-2022 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1279018)
I absolutely agree she is living the life of her dreams, allegedly.
She is only responsible to her, No one else.

Two things though ..what do you mean by…” a narrow type of self awareness “ I don’t quite understand what you mean.
and why did she never marry or at least in later life have a long term partner ?
Seems sad really.
I think she is a sad person.

I think she's really sad as well. And very jealous of Lindsey's family life. So she showed him. How dare he be happy...

DownOnRodeo 11-15-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1279015)
Now isn’t this Molly Meldrum interviewing them — the guy who used to flirt (successfully) with Stevie?

I don't know who the interviewer is but the voice is not Molly Meldrum's, whose voice is deeper and presumably more flirtworthy.

SteveMacD 11-16-2022 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1279015)
Now I certainly agree that Madame Nicks was a creative drag on the band after her heyday, owing in large part to her narcissistic attitude. She may seem plagued by self doubts, but I bet she really isn’t. She seems to have only a very narrow type of self awareness.

Now I think that she is living the life she absolutely wants to live. All this nonsense about children and families and so forth and Stevie pining away for “what might have been” is ridiculous. She is absolutely content where she is. Remember when Lindsey put out the word that his relationship with Carol had ended? He was deluged with fan offers of marriage. Had Stevie really wanted to, she could have snapped her fingers and summoned thousands of offers of marriage — probably from every high-octane multimillionaire in the entertainment business. None of this crap of standing in the driveway waving goodbye to Stevie as she jets off. That is Stevie mythmaking. She chose not to marry because she didn’t want to marry. You’re rewriting her narrative by making her the dissipated, embittered old woman who longs for children. Au contraire, she is having a ball. She is Queen Bee, Matriarch of Music.

COMPLETELY AGREE.

Stevie is wealthy beyond belief, she can do whatever she wants, she answers to nobody, she’s close to her brother and niece, and she has all kinds of people kissing her ass all the time. Stevie was briefly married and a step-mother and it absolutely wasn’t what she wanted. Being a rock star absolutely was. She’s not sitting in a rocking chair, pining for what could have been, and she damn sure isn’t jealous of Lindsey’s life. Lindsey’s life would bore her tears.

jbrownsjr 11-16-2022 01:47 PM

I agree she would be bored to death with Lindsey's life. I know I would be. Both of them are the same thing over and over and over again.

I do think she is deeply sad, however. Having sycophants around you is a never ending circumstance of having your own way. There is hell in not being challenged. When you stop earning from your current life and live off the past, it's torture for a true artist. She ceased to be an artist long ago. She's an entertainer.

My opinion is: She boxed herself into a solo career that doesn't need more wealth or produce anything of significance. It only feeds her ego and her "yes people's egos. That's sad to me.

Her new material, as trite as it is, is embarrassing compared to her earlier work.

I feel that she deep down inside would long for a family and folks that don't suck from the teat, vs a family that loves her and her amazing history.

David 11-16-2022 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1279018)
Two things though ..what do you mean by…”a narrow type of self awareness“ I don’t quite understand what you mean.

I’m referring to her narcissism. She sees herself in romanticized terms: she sacrifices, she suffers, she exalts. She’s expansive, larger than life. A breakup isn’t just a breakup — it’s a tragedy. She sees herself in extremes, and that perspective is actually limited and even shallow (even though it makes for a great superstar vibe).

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Why did she never marry or at least in later life have a long term partner? Seems sad really. I think she is a sad person.
You know, Sue, I don’t think she’s all that glum. I suggest Stevie is pleased with her station and, if given the chance, would make absolutely no changes.

However, I do think aging has saddened her. It’s practically impossible to be a 75-year-old siren when reality is staring back at you in the mirror. Remember when she told Rosie in 2001 that she was horrified when she lost her “little wrists” because of weight gain? That was one of the few times I saw real sadness in her eyes, not just romantic posturing. Stevie wants to be eternally cute, and Mother Nature doesn’t cooperate with any of us.

But hankering after Lindsey’s married life? No way does she want that. She can’t even stay home for a year before she’s off and running on tour. (Besides, who says Lindsey’s married life is Norman Rockwell? Maybe his kids can’t stand their dad.) To believe that Stevie is preoccupied with Lindsey’s marriage is to believe that he is still the center of her universe, which is just the opposite of what most of us think.

SteveMacD 11-16-2022 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1279035)
She ceased to be an artist long ago. She's an entertainer.

She’s a rock star. That’s the only distinction she cares about.

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I feel that she deep down inside would long for a family and folks that don't suck from the teat, vs a family that loves her and her amazing history.
I think she wants that about as much as you want a wife and kids in a small Midwestern suburb.

sue 11-16-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1279036)
I’m referring to her narcissism. She sees herself in romanticized terms: she sacrifices, she suffers, she exalts. She’s expansive, larger than life. A breakup isn’t just a breakup — it’s a tragedy. She sees herself in extremes, and that perspective is actually limited and even shallow (even though it makes for a great superstar vibe).

You know, Sue, I don’t think she’s all that glum. I suggest Stevie is pleased with her station and, if given the chance, would make absolutely no changes.

However, I do think aging has saddened her. It’s practically impossible to be a 75-year-old siren when reality is staring back at you in the mirror. Remember when she told Rosie in 2001 that she was horrified when she lost her “little wrists” because of weight gain? That was one of the few times I saw real sadness in her eyes, not just romantic posturing. Stevie wants to be eternally cute, and Mother Nature doesn’t cooperate with any of us.

But hankering after Lindsey’s married life? No way does she want that. She can’t even stay home for a year before she’s off and running on tour. (Besides, who says Lindsey’s married life is Norman Rockwell? Maybe his kids can’t stand their dad.) To believe that Stevie is preoccupied with Lindsey’s marriage is to believe that he is still the center of her universe, which is just the opposite of what most of us think.

Thank you David.
I see what you mean about her narcissism..and her expansive view of herself.
I actually didn’t mean she was sad but a bit pathetic…however I’m sure she is happy in her own world.
But bored maybe, she does do a lot of touring…
She’s right about fat wrists though..

aleuzzi 11-16-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1279015)
Now isn’t this Molly Meldrum interviewing them — the guy who used to flirt (successfully) with Stevie?

Now I certainly agree that Madame Nicks was a creative drag on the band after her heyday, owing in large part to her narcissistic attitude. She may seem plagued by self doubts, but I bet she really isn’t. She seems to have only a very narrow type of self awareness.

Now I think that she is living the life she absolutely wants to live. All this nonsense about children and families and so forth and Stevie pining away for “what might have been” is ridiculous. She is absolutely content where she is. Remember when Lindsey put out the word that his relationship with Carol had ended? He was deluged with fan offers of marriage. Had Stevie really wanted to, she could have snapped her fingers and summoned thousands of offers of marriage — probably from every high-octane multimillionaire in the entertainment business. None of this crap of standing in the driveway waving goodbye to Stevie as she jets off. That is Stevie mythmaking. She chose not to marry because she didn’t want to marry. You’re rewriting her narrative by making her the dissipated, embittered old woman who longs for children. Au contraire, she is having a ball. She is Queen Bee, Matriarch of Music.

David, who were you initially responding to? This interesting post seems like it might have been intended for a different thread? Or am I missing something?

SteveMacD 11-16-2022 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1279040)
David, who are you responding to? This seems like it might have been intended for a different thread?

It seems like it belongs in The Music Lives On thread.

aleuzzi 11-16-2022 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1279041)
It seems like it belongs in The Music Lives On thread.

Ah, that makes sense.

David 11-16-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1279042)
Ah, that makes sense.

I’m a hot mess, Tony.

aleuzzi 11-16-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1279044)
I’m a hot mess, Tony.

Then you're on the right discussion board. Welcome to the choir, sir.

jbrownsjr 11-21-2022 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1279037)
She’s a rock star. That’s the only distinction she cares about.


I think she wants that about as much as you want a wife and kids in a small Midwestern suburb.

Can I watch Bengals' games?

HomerMcvie 11-21-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1279086)
Can I watch Bengals' games?

Buckeyes of a feather.....

SteveMacD 11-22-2022 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1279086)
Can I watch Bengals' games?

Why wouldn’t you?!?

Speaking of Cincinnati, guess who’s old lady got him a second row center ticket to Dave Mason at Memorial Hall?!!

HomerMcvie 11-22-2022 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1279097)
Speaking of Cincinnati, guess who’s old lady got him a second row center ticket to Dave Mason at Memorial Hall?!!

Is he still alive?

SteveMacD 11-22-2022 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1279098)
Is he still alive?

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...XL._SY580_.jpg

aleuzzi 11-23-2022 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1279100)

And I hear he’s feelin’ alright. (Sorry: couldn’t help myself).

SteveMacD 11-23-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1279107)
And I hear he’s feelin’ alright. (Sorry: couldn’t help myself).

I wonder why?

aleuzzi 11-23-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1279110)
I wonder why?

He has a hole in his shoe.

jbrownsjr 11-23-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1279097)
Why wouldn’t you?!?

Speaking of Cincinnati, guess who’s old lady got him a second row center ticket to Dave Mason at Memorial Hall?!!

This is great news!!! And Burrows needs to beat Cleveland and you're all set for the year!! :laugh:


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