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SteveMacD 03-10-2022 01:46 PM

Mike Campbell Interview
 
The guy who made it is using a clickbait headline

Mike Campbell says that he’s not involved in Fleetwood Mac anymore at this point: “I think that’s a ship that sailed for me.”

https://youtu.be/peLVfKmpROY

The Fleetwood Mac question is at the 18 minute mark. There’s nothing new. He said that it’s an open question and that he’d be there if they called.

David 03-10-2022 03:51 PM

I don’t think anyone is involved in Fleetwood Mac at this point. They’re probably by way of being either dormant or extinct, although there are three things I refuse to time: my death, the markets, and Fleetwood Mac.

UnwindedDreams 03-10-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273234)
The guy who made it is using a clickbait headline

Mike Campbell says that he’s not involved in Fleetwood Mac anymore at this point: “I think that’s a ship that sailed for me.”

https://youtu.be/peLVfKmpROY

The Fleetwood Mac question is at the 18 minute mark. There’s nothing new. He said that it’s an open question and that he’d be there if they called.

He may have to come out with a clarification like Christine did last year when she said the thinks if there was another tour it would be without John.

I wonder the if the band meeting in 2020 was the last time Mike and Stevie talked. He said during lockdown he sent her tracks and she didn't respond.

I really think they should have released a single for the last tour. It's really too bad.

SteveMacD 03-10-2022 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273242)
I really think they should have released a single for the last tour. It's really too bad.

Or a new song for the “Don’t Stop” comp.

UnwindedDreams 03-10-2022 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273244)
Or a new song for the “Don’t Stop” comp.

That's a good idea. But I don't think the band had anything to do with that compilation, right? It was RHINO

I wonder if Stevie wants Extended Play to be the last musical offering of FM and she just sees FM's current mission as performing the repertoire from the 1960s to the 1980s for the tons of young fans that are buying FM concert tickets.

Fleetwood Mac is probably getting mega offers to tour this year but Stevie really wants to do the outdoor festival style gigs.

Good on Mike and Neil for making albums and doing tours.

bombaysaffires 03-10-2022 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273242)
He may have to come out with a clarification like Christine did last year when she said the thinks if there was another tour it would be without John.

I wonder the if the band meeting in 2020 was the last time Mike and Stevie talked. He said during lockdown he sent her tracks and she didn't respond.

I really think they should have released a single for the last tour. It's really too bad.

this really frosts me because in an interview during lockdown she made a comment how whoever she's been in lockdown with said to her "oh let's do an album/record some songs" and she quite snippily said basically oh that's easy for THEM to say but *I'm* the one that has to come up with the material.... So here was someone doing the heavy musical lifting (not her strong suit) and her just needing to go thru, to quote her, her millions of songs and poems and whatnot, and put some to the music. I'm not saying that is effortless, but it's half the battle. I gotta say it all makes Lindsey look more and more exactly on point when he says her writing capabilities are dried up, and frankly it also says her desire to do it at ALL seems non existent anymore as well. She's DONE, she just wants to coast, and hey that's fine. She wants that time off she always griped she never had. Well, consider that a gift of COVID in a way-- plenty of time and did she do all the stuff she said she would do if she had the time? She did not. Instead, she b*tched about being bored. She just says sh&t with no real meaning behind it anymore.

bombaysaffires 03-10-2022 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273234)
The guy who made it is using a clickbait headline

Mike Campbell says that he’s not involved in Fleetwood Mac anymore at this point: “I think that’s a ship that sailed for me.”

https://youtu.be/peLVfKmpROY

The Fleetwood Mac question is at the 18 minute mark. There’s nothing new. He said that it’s an open question and that he’d be there if they called.

the ship hasn't sailed at all, it's stuck in port. On a sandbar.

UnwindedDreams 03-10-2022 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1273246)
Well, consider that a gift of COVID in a way-- plenty of time and did she do all the stuff she said she would do if she had the time? She did not. Instead, she b*tched about being bored.

There was that recent video of her where she said she was working with Greg Kurstin. There could be an album coming this spring for all we know!

SteveMacD 03-10-2022 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1273246)
this really frosts me because in an interview during lockdown she made a comment how whoever she's been in lockdown with said to her "oh let's do an album/record some songs" and she quite snippily said basically oh that's easy for THEM to say but *I'm* the one that has to come up with the material....

The others have backlogs of material, so she isn’t wrong.

Still, imagine if “Wreckless Abandon” had been a Fleetwood Mac song.

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her writing capabilities are dried up, and frankly it also says her desire to do it at ALL seems non existent anymore as well.
Have either of you listed to TITN or BTM lately?

Of course she doesn’t want to make an album with other songwriters.

UnwindedDreams 03-11-2022 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273250)
The others have backlogs of material, so she isn’t wrong.

Still, imagine if “Wreckless Abandon” had been a Fleetwood Mac song.


Have either of you listed to TITN or BTM lately?

Of course she doesn’t want to make an album with other songwriters.

Stevie has a lot of songs in The Vault. She said in 2014 she wanted to make a second songs from the vault. I hope she does.

The point about TITN and BTM is that her songs are the weakest on those albums?

I like all of her songs on those albums but for The Second Time. Seven Wonders is annoying 80s synth and keys but I can at least tap my foot to it.

David 03-11-2022 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273258)
Stevie has a lot of songs in The Vault. She said in 2014 she wanted to make a second songs from the vault. I hope she does.

Amazing and puzzling why she does not put that second vault album out and tour it.

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The point about TITN and BTM is that her songs are the weakest on those albums?
Exactly the point. When Lindsey says she has dried up recently, it’s a little cringe to think that she actually dried up thirty years ago. I mean, despite a few scattered cool songs, she hasn’t been operating at the level of a great songwriter in at least that long (for me personally, it’s even longer). She hasn’t written a “Sara” in forty years — and a “Dreams” or a “Gold Dust Woman” in Jesus years. Her burst of powerful songwriting energy in her mature years never arrived, and I expected it to. Her big statements as a lyricist, with all those songs that captured a generation, ended before middle age. We keep wanting her to return to the fore with an essential batch of songs, but she seems unable to funnel all that middle-age wisdom into songs that equal or exceed her earlier great work.

bombaysaffires 03-11-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273250)
The others have backlogs of material, so she isn’t wrong.

Still, imagine if “Wreckless Abandon” had been a Fleetwood Mac song.


Have either of you listed to TITN or BTM lately?

Of course she doesn’t want to make an album with other songwriters.

yes but the point is Mike was more than willing to share tracks with her which is the weakest part of her writing alone... so she'd have tracks, she reports she's got reams of lyrics and poems from forever, and the work would be putting some of those lyrics together with Mike's tracks to come up with a melody. She's got most of the pieces already and would mainly need to spend some time putting the right bits together, and she's not even interested in that.

UnwindedDreams 03-11-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1273263)
Amazing and puzzling why she does not put that second vault album out and tour it.

Exactly the point. When Lindsey says she has dried up recently, it’s a little cringe to think that she actually dried up thirty years ago. I mean, despite a few scattered cool songs, she hasn’t been operating at the level of a great songwriter in at least that long (for me personally, it’s even longer). She hasn’t written a “Sara” in forty years — and a “Dreams” or a “Gold Dust Woman” in Jesus years. Her burst of powerful songwriting energy in her mature years never arrived, and I expected it to. Her big statements as a lyricist, with all those songs that captured a generation, ended before middle age. We keep wanting her to return to the fore with an essential batch of songs, but she seems unable to funnel all that middle-age wisdom into songs that equal or exceed her earlier great work.

She did an interview in Fall of 2014 where she said how when she tours for 24 Karat, she would do 24 K songs and ones she didn't do from In Your Dreams and when she did a second 24 K, she'd perform those new songs and those she didn't do from the first 24 K.
I wish I could find that interview because she actually wasn't nice to the interviewer. The interviewer asked Stevie if she might do Silver Springs on her solo tour and Stevie shot back with "You just go through and choose":laugh:
She was probably not happy she had to be awake during business hours.

If you read Stevie's New Yorker interview, she says she has plenty of memories to pull from to write love songs.

UnwindedDreams 03-11-2022 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1273265)
yes but the point is Mike was more than willing to share tracks with her which is the weakest part of her writing alone... so she'd have tracks, she reports she's got reams of lyrics and poems from forever, and the work would be putting some of those lyrics together with Mike's tracks to come up with a melody. She's got most of the pieces already and would mainly need to spend some time putting the right bits together, and she's not even interested in that.

She did it with Greg Kurstin! He gave her an Avicii track for Show Them the Way, HAHA

SteveMacD 03-12-2022 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1273263)
Exactly the point. When Lindsey says she has dried up recently, it’s a little cringe to think that she actually dried up thirty years ago. I mean, despite a few scattered cool songs, she hasn’t been operating at the level of a great songwriter in at least that long (for me personally, it’s even longer). She hasn’t written a “Sara” in forty years — and a “Dreams” or a “Gold Dust Woman” in Jesus years. Her burst of powerful songwriting energy in her mature years never arrived, and I expected it to. Her big statements as a lyricist, with all those songs that captured a generation, ended before middle age. We keep wanting her to return to the fore with an essential batch of songs, but she seems unable to funnel all that middle-age wisdom into songs that equal or exceed her earlier great work.

I'll go even further and say Stevie only had a decade of consistently great songs (1973-83). After that, it was hit or miss.

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1273265)
yes but the point is Mike was more than willing to share tracks with her which is the weakest part of her writing alone... so she'd have tracks, she reports she's got reams of lyrics and poems from forever, and the work would be putting some of those lyrics together with Mike's tracks to come up with a melody. She's got most of the pieces already and would mainly need to spend some time putting the right bits together, and she's not even interested in that.

Be that as it may, the others have backlogs of *completed* songs. Neil alone probably has a few albums worth of unreleased songs.

Stevie's record with Mike is a little spotty. There have been some great songs (Blue Denim), mediocre songs (Freedom), and some terrible songs (Desert Angel).

The biggest issue I see with Stevie is that she insists that songs be recorded just like her demos, which is a crappy way to go about being in a band, especially one full of critically acclaimed musicians. The collaborative spirit in the making of an album is half the reason to be in a band.

On Ice 03-12-2022 01:46 PM

Hadn't read this before and also hadn't really paid much attention to the 18-19 band, although it goes without saying Mike and Neil are both talented musicians, both are not a fit for Fleetwood Mac, entirely different league altogether. Stevie did come close to creativity for In Your Dreams, which did feature some good material, which was dragged down by a lack of awareness around less is more, which in 2022 makes it a drag to get through. A tightly arranged, well performed tune such as 24 K is what makes a great song and that approach would give us a great album. I agree with Steve that her truly great period was '73-83 and capped off with some amazing vocals on the Wild Heart and Mirage. After that, it wasn't until Rooms On Fire and Ooh My Love that we would see a glimpse of the Stevie of yore, but the album too, was dragged down by too many meh tracks and outright duds. Her other huge weakness is cover songs- her charm and appeal is in her own material, she is not a great interpreter of other's material. On a positive note, she is arguably the very best harmony and background singer who is still alive, in the business.

aleuzzi 03-12-2022 09:23 PM

To say Stevie had ten years of consistently good-great songwriting is accurate. It’s also more than many musicians/singers/songwriters could hope for. Since 1985, each of her projects usually offers one or two fine songs, such as “Blue Denim” on STREET ANGEL or “Throw Down” and “Everybody Finds Out” on SYW. Again, in this regard, she has persisted more successfully than many of her peers of that era. Recording “lost” tunes like “Lady” and “Lady of the Mountain” has worked for her, too. She remains remarkably marketable.

But as a songwriter she has been fallow for at least two decades. Her last batch of (then) new-newish songs was on SYW. After that, it’s been more excavation than genuine expression. Her dismissal of the BuckVie project was thinly-veiled jealousy and outright fear cloaked as greed.

UnwindedDreams 03-13-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1273285)
Her dismissal of the BuckVie project was thinly-veiled jealousy and outright fear cloaked as greed.

She told Sheryl Crow and Ellen that artists make albums because "you're financially able to" and because you're with the right group of people or something.

I would've thought that given evil Lindsey was gone. She would've jumped into making an album with Mike and Neil.

Mike thought they were going to do an album when he was offered the job by Mick.

But Stevie wants to play her classics alone on open fields for fifty thousand people this summer.

sleepless child 03-13-2022 10:37 AM

Lindsey said in recent interviews that he sent her tracks so she could write songs too. He said he had done it in the past but she didn't seem interested.

For someone who feels these are her last youthful years, she is letting them go by quickly. Take the help.

DownOnRodeo 03-13-2022 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1273237)
I don’t think anyone is involved in Fleetwood Mac at this point.

:lol:

Nathan Apodaca is their most active creative member.

aleuzzi 03-13-2022 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273286)
She told Sheryl Crow and Ellen that artists make albums because "you're financially able to" and because you're with the right group of people or something.

I would've thought that given evil Lindsey was gone. She would've jumped into making an album with Mike and Neil.

Mike thought they were going to do an album when he was offered the job by Mick.

But Stevie wants to play her classics alone on open fields for fifty thousand people this summer.

A heritage act. A lucrative heritage act. Not knocking it, but respect ongoing creative vision more.

UnwindedDreams 03-14-2022 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1273305)
A heritage act. A lucrative heritage act. Not knocking it, but respect ongoing creative vision more.

She didn't chart Top 3 with her last 2 records and Show Them the Way didn't chart at all so she probably doesn't want to release new music anymore unless it's a duet with a bigger star: Miley, Maroon 5, Elton, or Harry.

bombaysaffires 03-14-2022 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273273)
I'll go even further and say Stevie only had a decade of consistently great songs (1973-83). After that, it was hit or miss.


Be that as it may, the others have backlogs of *completed* songs. Neil alone probably has a few albums worth of unreleased songs.

Stevie's record with Mike is a little spotty. There have been some great songs (Blue Denim), mediocre songs (Freedom), and some terrible songs (Desert Angel).

The biggest issue I see with Stevie is that she insists that songs be recorded just like her demos, which is a crappy way to go about being in a band, especially one full of critically acclaimed musicians. The collaborative spirit in the making of an album is half the reason to be in a band.

and if you listen to her demos of songs like Silver Springs, it is NOTHING remotely as good as the finished produced version. Same for Dreams (though we've never actually heard her demo she says she wrote on her little electric keyboard in Sly Stone's bed) and Rhiannon was a bit thin with the same verse repeated and no chorus. So her best songs are her best songs because the band, and especially Lindsey, PRODUCED them ie turned them from some nice raw ideas into actual songs that could get played on the radio. She's on drugs if she thinks her raw demos would have made her famous. People like them now because they're neat "behind the curtain" peeks at her creative process, and because she's STEVIE NICKS. She would not, however, have become STEVIE NICKS off of those demos themselves. She might have had a small cult following, but that's it. (Same can be said for the work people like Jimmy, Belmont, Roy and the rest put into her solo stuff).

UnwindedDreams 03-14-2022 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1273321)
So her best songs are her best songs because the band, and especially Lindsey, PRODUCED them ie turned them from some nice raw ideas into actual songs that could get played on the radio. She's on drugs if she thinks her raw demos would have made her famous. People like them now because they're neat "behind the curtain" peeks at her creative process, and because she's STEVIE NICKS. She would not, however, have become STEVIE NICKS off of those demos themselves. She might have had a small cult following, but that's it. (Same can be said for the work people like Jimmy, Belmont, Roy and the rest put into her solo stuff).

Didn't Tom Moncrieff work her demos out too?

aleuzzi 03-15-2022 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273319)
She didn't chart Top 3 with her last 2 records and Show Them the Way didn't chart at all so she probably doesn't want to release new music anymore unless it's a duet with a bigger star: Miley, Maroon 5, Elton, or Harry.

But there’s more than sales and charts. There is the drive to create. She appears to have lost this.

bombaysaffires 03-15-2022 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273323)
Didn't Tom Moncrieff work her demos out too?

Yep.

:nod:

UnwindedDreams 03-15-2022 06:27 PM

Unfortunately like other rock artists last year and this year, Mike's new album didn't chart in the US.

Sounds like a great tour though ultimateclassicrock.com/mike-campbell-tom-petty-songs

Awesome that they're going to do TPHB songs.

SteveMacD 03-15-2022 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273340)
Unfortunately like other rock artists last year and this year, Mike's new album didn't chart in the US.

I think his was mostly sold through his website. That said, he gets a ton of airplay on SiriusXM Outlaw Country.

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Awesome that they're going to do TPHB songs.
He'd have to do a few, since most of the people coming to his show are Heartbreakers fans. Just like how LBCM played some Fleetwood Mac songs.

That said, most of the set is the two Knobs albums.

UnwindedDreams 03-16-2022 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273343)
I think his was mostly sold through his website. That said, he gets a ton of airplay on SiriusXM Outlaw Country.


He'd have to do a few, since most of the people coming to his show are Heartbreakers fans. Just like how LBCM played some Fleetwood Mac songs.

That said, most of the set is the two Knobs albums.

I bought the album at Barnes and Noble. I don't know if he'd have to do TPHB because he is playing small rooms/bars so the Knobs music works perfect for the venues. But maybe out of appreciation to the fans and because he wants to carry the torch for Tom.

SteveMacD 03-16-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273343)
That said, he gets a ton of airplay on SiriusXM Outlaw Country.

AND…He’s filling in for Mojo Nixon today.

UnwindedDreams 03-20-2022 12:47 PM

I hear Mike playing Rhiannon and Isn't it Midnight in this video. Any other Mac in there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XZ4yzAyzTI

It really sucks because this could've been the perfect year for a new Mac album with a Rumours 45 Tour.

Mike and Neil said they were making it their priority until whenever.

I imagine the band meeting in 2020 being a monologue. "I need 3 years off"

HomerMcvie 03-20-2022 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273420)

I imagine the band meeting in 2020 being a monologue. "I need 3 years off"

In other words (most likely), The End.

Christine and John are just too old to do it anymore.

Thanks alot, $tevie Obama!:lol:

UnwindedDreams 03-20-2022 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273423)
In other words (most likely), The End.

Christine and John are just too old to do it anymore.

Thanks alot, $tevie Obama!:lol:

Would've been cool if Mike and Neil joined up after the FM tour.

HomerMcvie 03-20-2022 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273424)
Would've been cool if Mike and Neil joined up after the FM tour.

Lindsey IS FM.

He DEFINED their sound as much(MORE) than anyone else(goats not withstanding).

Here comes Steve......:laugh::D:wavey:

bombaysaffires 03-20-2022 11:00 PM

i caught the Rhiannon bit , but not the Isn't it Midnight. Do you have a time hack for it?

SteveMacD 03-21-2022 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273430)
Lindsey IS FM.

He DEFINED their sound as much(MORE) than anyone else

Just ask him. He'll tell you.

SteveMacD 03-21-2022 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1273424)
Would've been cool if Mike and Neil joined up after the FM tour.

They did for that one song, but, yeah.

They'd make a killer buddy-buddy album. Neil the serious/melancholy art rocker and Mike the kick ass/kind of goofy but clever rocker finding middle ground, preferably with Christine to be the glue holding it together (AGAIN).

HomerMcvie 03-21-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1273437)
Just ask him. He'll tell you.

Just like clock work!:D

Removed that part of my quote, though...:p

SteveMacD 03-21-2022 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273442)
Just like clock work!:D

Have you run out of threads to slut-shame Stevie or bring up her abortions? :wavey:

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Removed that part of my quote, though...:p
I only quote relevant points. :cool:

UnwindedDreams 03-21-2022 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1273431)
i caught the Rhiannon bit , but not the Isn't it Midnight. Do you have a time hack for it?

5:39

I think it's Isn't it Midnight or Little Lies. I remember hearing that when I saw them on 2018 Tour.


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