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aleuzzi 02-22-2022 01:00 AM

Christine Singing Other People’s Songs
 
We generally regard Christine as a songwriter who sings her own material. That’s certainly what she’s best known for. But the YMLF cover thread that popped up today got me thinking about the songs she has covered.

For the most part, she’s a pretty persuasive interpreter of songs written by others. Her readings of Dan Perfect’s “Northern Star” and “Calumny” are outstanding. But has she ever improved on better-known versions of songs? Her “I’d Rather Go Blind” and “Crazy Bout You Baby”—are these better than the respective Etta James and Ike-Tina Turner interpretations?

On the other hand, I think her version of Tony Joe White’s “I Want You” is superior to his. And her performance of Bobby Bland’s “I’m On My Way”
is, to my ears, pretty much equal.

On her 1984 album, I think the weakest songs are the covers…

Thoughts about Christine covers?

Macfan4life 02-22-2022 08:06 AM

Interesting thread. When I heard Chris was covering Elvis's Cant Help Falling In Love, I got really excited. However while its fairly good, I thought she would have done a better job. For some reason, I want to like the song better. I can't put my finger on why either.

I thought she did a good job on Keeping Secrets and I'm The One. However, you can sense they were not written by her. I dont ever see her telling some guy "I'm not your psychiatrist" She never tells guy's off in her songs (for the most part).

aleuzzi 02-22-2022 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1272963)
Interesting thread. When I heard Chris was covering Elvis's Cant Help Falling In Love, I got really excited. However while its fairly good, I thought she would have done a better job. For some reason, I want to like the song better. I can't put my finger on why either.

I thought she did a good job on Keeping Secrets and I'm The One. However, you can sense they were not written by her. I dont ever see her telling some guy "I'm not your psychiatrist" She never tells guy's off in her songs (for the most part).

Yeah, the phrasing on I’m the One doesn’t sound natural to her. Her lyrics tend to be concise and allow her space to draw out syllables. I’m the one and Keeping Secrets have more words than is usual for her.

I also agree on the Elvis cover. It’s not bad—it’s just not great. Very pleasant and forgettable.

David 02-22-2022 01:48 PM

She used to be good at covering blues. Remember “Jumping at Shadows” by Duster Bennett? She sang that live just a year before he died, and she slipped into that tune very naturally. She should have put it on one of her solo albums.

Phoenixgypsy 02-22-2022 02:33 PM

I might be in the minority, but I love her version of "I Can't Help Falling in Love" - I wish they would remaster that track and put it on CD or a streaming service.

FuzzyPlum 02-22-2022 02:47 PM

well, her version of the dreadful When You Say is actually palatable!!!

jbrownsjr 02-22-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1272970)
She used to be good at covering blues. Remember “Jumping at Shadows” by Duster Bennett? She sang that live just a year before he died, and she slipped into that tune very naturally. She should have put it on one of her solo albums.

There's a low quality bootleg of "jumping" and her vocals and keys are absolutely fantastic. Good one.

aleuzzi 02-22-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1272974)
There's a low quality bootleg of "jumping" and her vocals and keys are absolutely fantastic. Good one.

Yeah—I love that version. Have it on my iTunes.

jbrownsjr 02-22-2022 04:54 PM

I love her version of I'd Rather Go Blind. I have a friend that loved it more than the Etta James version. I don't know that I'd personally go that far. But, I heard Christine's version first, and I do think it's sang with a unique and personal point of view.

And who doesn't love: "2AM and it's you on the telephone, cryin' in your sleep...."?

Macfan4life 02-22-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1272976)
I love her version of I'd Rather Go Blind. I have a friend that loved it more than the Etta James version. I don't know that I'd personally go that far. But, I heard Christine's version first, and I do think it's sang with a unique and personal point of view.

And who doesn't love: "2AM and it's you on the telephone, cryin' in your sleep...."?

You figure since I have a shoulder and live alone, you can come to me?

jbrownsjr 02-22-2022 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1272977)
You figure since I have a shoulder and live alone, you can come to me?

I mean, who can sing that with a straight face!! hehe

aleuzzi 02-22-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1272978)
I mean, who can sing that with a straight face!! hehe

I mean, the shoulder is an essential body part.

HomerMcvie 02-23-2022 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1272978)
I mean, who can sing that with a straight face!! hehe

At least the lyric wasn't in me, or on me.

Cuz that would be some slip your hand inside my glove sh*t.

Macfan4life 02-23-2022 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1272978)
I mean, who can sing that with a straight face!! hehe

I don't like playing detective still I keep finding clues
We've got to stop this pretending and pay the dues



Chris's 1984 album had such country vibes. I think that was because of Sharpe. Both him and Burnette have a country vibe to them. It was odd when I got this vibe that a English blues player would sound country. Songs like So Excited, Love Will Show Us How, I'm the One, and Keeping Secrets have a tang of country sound and the lyrics could be full blown country. So Excited was co-written by Sharpe, Burnette, and McVie and could have easily wound up on the country charts. She also could have performed it on Hee Haw. That was a mainstay on TV in Homer's area in the mid 80s.

jbrownsjr 02-23-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1272983)
At least the lyric wasn't in me, or on me.

Cuz that would be some slip your hand inside my glove sh*t.

Homer, why is it that every time you find romantic infidelity,
you make a point to let me know? ?????

aleuzzi 02-23-2022 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1272987)
Homer, why is it that every time you find romantic infidelity,
you make a point to let me know? ?????

Coz he’s a devil and an angel.

jbrownsjr 02-23-2022 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1272988)
Coz he’s a devil and an angel.

The combination drives MacFan wild!

HomerMcvie 02-23-2022 12:03 PM

I'm the one! :p

jbrownsjr 02-23-2022 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1272993)
I'm the one! :p

That was perfect!! We should write bad lyrics too!!

HomerMcvie 02-23-2022 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1272995)
That was perfect!! We should write bad lyrics too!!

I thought we did that already.

John, you're One In A Million.

jbrownsjr 02-24-2022 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273000)
I thought we did that already.

John, you're One In A Million.

And you're Keeping Secrets!

aleuzzi 02-25-2022 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1272970)
She used to be good at covering blues. Remember “Jumping at Shadows” by Duster Bennett? She sang that live just a year before he died, and she slipped into that tune very naturally. She should have put it on one of her solo albums.

I have a great bootleg of FM doing it at the end of one of their 1976 shows. Christine sounds great, there.

Couldn’t find it on YouTube, but I did find this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zSNiOkDro-c

jbrownsjr 02-25-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1273038)
I have a great bootleg of FM doing it at the end of one of their 1976 shows. Christine sounds great, there.

Couldn’t find it on YouTube, but I did find this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zSNiOkDro-c

You can really hear the difference in talent... lord have mercy.. :laugh::wavey:

aleuzzi 02-25-2022 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1273039)
You can really hear the difference in talent... lord have mercy.. :laugh::wavey:

One is jumping at shadows, the other shouting pale shadows.

jbrownsjr 02-26-2022 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1273040)
One is jumping at shadows, the other shouting pale shadows.

I think I was in as much pain as Christine with the sounds of sustained pale shadows.

dougl 02-26-2022 10:47 AM

Christine Singing Other People’s Songs
 
While not a cover, this song written by Bob Welch has always been one of my favorite vocals from Christine.

https://youtu.be/XBvW_2RHuwk

aleuzzi 02-26-2022 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dougl (Post 1273044)
While not a cover, this song written by Bob Welch has always been one of my favorite vocals from Christine.

https://youtu.be/XBvW_2RHuwk

I agree. She nails this. Why they didn't exploit this arrangement more frequently is beyond comprehension. Bob could whip up 6-8 songs at a time. It wouldn't have hurt him to give Christine one of his Heroes songs, possibly "Angel." But then maybe Christine didn't want too many of her vocals on a record? That sounds like something she'd say.

Whatever the case, her phrasing and tone on "Keep On Going" is fantastic. The song glides along in a seductive, eerie way.

jbrownsjr 02-27-2022 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1273047)
I agree. She nails this. Why they didn't exploit this arrangement more frequently is beyond comprehension. Bob could whip up 6-8 songs at a time. It wouldn't have hurt him to give Christine one of his Heroes songs, possibly "Angel." But then maybe Christine didn't want too many of her vocals on a record? That sounds like something she'd say.

Whatever the case, her phrasing and tone on "Keep On Going" is fantastic. The song glides along in a seductive, eerie way.

I agree!! Her voice is so seductive on this track. I can't hear Bob singing it, and I'm glad he didn't.

nicepace 03-06-2022 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1273047)
Whatever the case, her phrasing and tone on "Keep On Going" is fantastic. The song glides along in a seductive, eerie way.

Yes! I think the bass line contributes to this in a big way.

HomerMcvie 03-06-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1273163)
Yes! I think the bass line contributes to this in a big way.

I agree! I've been on a Mystery To Me kick the past few evenings. It's such a fantastic album. It should be as revered as Rumours!

jbrownsjr 03-06-2022 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1273166)
I agree! I've been on a Mystery To Me kick the past few evenings. It's such a fantastic album. It should be as revered as Rumours!

The album is fantastic. And the closing song leaves you satisfied.

DownOnRodeo 03-06-2022 06:32 PM

Oops, I didn't realise Keep On Going was written by Bob Welch. The instrumentality certainly has his signature but I always assumed it was penned by Christine. Makes more sense now.

aleuzzi 03-06-2022 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1273168)
The album is fantastic. And the closing song leaves you satisfied.

It really is a meaty record—a lot of great music on it. My only beef is the way it’s engineered and recorded. The speakers are too close, I think. In this regard Penguin is actually superior. Nothing on Mystery sounds as good as, say, “Night Watch.” A good point of comparison is “Caught in the Rain” and “The Way That I Feel.” Both songs are essentially acoustic guitar and piano, but whereas “Feel” is a more original and fulfilled song, “Caught” sounds way better. I don’t have the technical skills or vocabulary to say what I want to say.

The drum sound (not the playing or the drum parts) on Mystery also sounds odd, like a toy instrument, or a garage recording with all the reverb sucked out of the room? I don’t know how to explain it. All I know is the ONLY problem I have with Mystery (apart from two dud tunes) is how it was recorded/engineered.

For what it’s worth, this is the only beef I have with Bare Trees, too, though there the sound is problematic in a different way, like it’s too muddled and all the levels are running at the same frequency or something. No dynamics there. Mystery’s problem is different.

Both Future Games and Penguin (which are comparatively more uneven than either Bare Trees or Mystery) sound crisp and lush.


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