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sleepless child 02-15-2022 02:50 PM

New Yorker Interview
 
There is a new article on Stevie in today's New Yorker.com written by Tevi Gevinson. She is an actress and writer and does a Q&A with Stevie. I can't find a way to post a link. Sorry.

The only real new news is that Stevie is still working on The Rhiannon project and when she and Kim divorced in 1983, she had a suitcase full of demos and tapes and he sold it at a flea market. She says that's how so many of her songs ended up on the internet. Otherwise nothing much new, but it is a nice article and the photo used is really unique. It is hard to describe, but you'll either love it or hate it.

Macfan4life 02-15-2022 05:20 PM

Wow, that is an interesting thing she revealed. She always inferred it was someone that took advantage of her klonopin addiction. However many of these demos were recorded well after her divorce. But there are still early ones she is probably referring to.
I take it he was bitter about her leaving to bang Joe Walsh on the Wild Heart tour :lol:

There was an interview that was removed from youtube in Stevie's deep klonopin funk where she admits how she left Kim. It was so freaking creepy how he thought of her as Robin. She claimed it was a relief to go on the road to get away.

Gee........ full blown drug addicts that marry their dead best friend's husband. Seriously, what could go wrong?

Selling demo tapes at a garage sale is the least of it :eek:

David 02-15-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1272815)
Selling demo tapes at a garage sale is the least of it :eek:

That was a guy named Rob who bought a bunch of demos at a Los Angeles swap meet around that time. The collection included “I Sing for the Things” and “Battle of the Dragon.” Lori Perry called Rob to ask him to cease and desist — circulating what he had bought. He went off the deep end: by 1985, he was grabbing Stevie’s clothes off the stage. At the Mulholland benefit in 1985, he grabbed Stevie’s polka-dot black cape from the stage, and that was that. Stevie’s organization was very upset with him and his troublesome ways.

This part about Stevie’s grandmother was my favorite part:

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I had a grandfather who was a country singer. And he left his wife, my grandmother—she was a piece of work, I could understand why he left her—and went off and played shows all over the country, but supported himself playing pool.

bombaysaffires 02-15-2022 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1272817)
That was a guy named Rob who bought a bunch of demos at a Los Angeles swap meet around that time. The collection included “I Sing for the Things” and “Battle of the Dragon.” Lori Perry called Rob to ask him to cease and desist — circulating what he had bought. He went off the deep end: by 1985, he was grabbing Stevie’s clothes off the stage. At the Mulholland benefit in 1985, he grabbed Stevie’s polka-dot black cape from the stage, and that was that. Stevie’s organization was very upset with him and his troublesome ways.

This part about Stevie’s grandmother was my favorite part:

why not send a person or two down to the swap meet under cover to just buy up everything he's selling so it doesn't go further???:shrug: Did he just sell copies and keep the originals??

Why wouldn't her security have pics of him to distribute to security teams working shows so they could watch for him and prevent his crap?

So much of this seems odd to me.

I bet if Karen had been in charge back then......:eek:

HomerMcvie 02-15-2022 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1272817)
That was a guy named Rob who bought a bunch of demos at a Los Angeles swap meet around that time. The collection included “I Sing for the Things” and “Battle of the Dragon.” Lori Perry called Rob to ask him to cease and desist — circulating what he had bought. He went off the deep end: by 1985, he was grabbing Stevie’s clothes off the stage. At the Mulholland benefit in 1985, he grabbed Stevie’s polka-dot black cape from the stage, and that was that. Stevie’s organization was very upset with him and his troublesome ways.

That sounds like some Bill Gamelson sh*t!

bombaysaffires 02-15-2022 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1272815)
Wow, that is an interesting thing she revealed. She always inferred it was someone that took advantage of her klonopin addiction. However many of these demos were recorded well after her divorce. But there are still early ones she is probably referring to.
I take it he was bitter about her leaving to bang Joe Walsh on the Wild Heart tour :lol:

There was an interview that was removed from youtube in Stevie's deep klonopin funk where she admits how she left Kim. It was so freaking creepy how he thought of her as Robin. She claimed it was a relief to go on the road to get away.

Gee........ full blown drug addicts that marry their dead best friend's husband. Seriously, what could go wrong?

Selling demo tapes at a garage sale is the least of it :eek:



wait, what? I've heard her talk about how SHE thought Robin was around as a ghost, rocking the cradle and all that.... but don't recall hearing that he thought she WAS Robin....:eek:

SteveMacD 02-15-2022 09:02 PM

I always find her pact story to be comical.

As if Christine hadn’t spent years holding her own before Stevie came around. Christine was on tours with Deep Purple. Did Stevie really think Christine was going to be intimidated by Loggins & Messina?

bombaysaffires 02-15-2022 09:04 PM

People magazine has been excerpting stuff from the New Yorker interview.


PEOPLE.COM
MUSIC

Stevie Nicks Recalls Trying to Be 'Sweet and Nice' to Lindsey Buckingham to Keep Fleetwood Mac Together
Stevie Nicks told The New Yorker that she knew she and Lindsey Buckingham had to stay together at first for Fleetwood Mac to work
By Rachel DeSantis
February 15, 2022 02:40 PM

Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham

Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham | CREDIT: NOAM GALAI/GETTY
Stevie Nicks is reflecting on the ups and downs of her relationship with Fleetwood Mac bandmate Lindsey Buckingham, nearly 50 years after it helped them make one of the world's most beloved albums.

Nicks talked to Tavi Gevinson in a lengthy interview published in The New Yorker, and explained how she and Buckingham—who first met in high school in the late '60s—had to patch up their fractured relationship in the early days of Fleetwood Mac, lest they risk ruining a good thing.

"You just have to throw yourself into your song. I mean, I broke up with Lindsey in 1976. We'd only been in Fleetwood Mac for a year and a half, and we were breaking up when we joined Fleetwood Mac," she recalled. "So we just put our relationship kind of back together, because I was smart enough to know that, if we had broken up the second month of being in Fleetwood Mac, it would have blown the whole thing."

Though their eventual breakup wound up being ideal fodder for their legendary 1977 album Rumours, Nicks, 73, said she was forced to grin and bear it up until that point — and that it worked out for the best.

"I just bided my time, and tried to make everything as easy as possible, tried to be as sweet and nice to Lindsey as I could be. He wasn't happy, either," the Rock and Roll Hall of Famer said. "Then something happened that was, you know, 'We're done.' And he knew it. It was time. And the band was solid, by that time, so I could walk away knowing that he was safe. And that the band was safe. And that we could work it out."

Though Rumours has breakup songs aplenty—bandmates Christine and John McVie were also splitting up at the time—Nicks' wistful "Dreams" and Buckingham's angstier kiss-off "Go Your Own Way," which each wrote about the other, have long been considered standouts.

RELATED: Lindsey Buckingham Says He'd Reconcile with Stevie Nicks for a Fleetwood Mac Reunion: 'You Have to Forgive'



Nicks told Gevinson that she considers the tracks two sides of the same coin.

"I can just go right back to what pushed me toward writing those words. And I always laugh because Lindsey's 'Go Your Own Way' and my 'Dreams' are like, counter songs to each other," she said. "I'm like, 'When the rain washes you clean, you'll know,' and he's like, 'Packing up, shacking up's all you want to do.' Both songs kind of mean the same thing — it's really about our breakup. He's looking at it from a very unpleasant, angry way, and I'm saying, in my more airy-fairy way, we're gonna be all right. We'll get through this."

Despite the decades since the band's most tumultuous era, Fleetwood Mac made headlines once more in 2018 when Buckingham, 72, was fired from the group.

The rocker told PEOPLE in September that he'd be open to a reunion with his bandmates, contingent on a reconciliation with Nicks.

Fleetwood Mac

Fleetwood Mac in September 2018 | CREDIT: JB LACROIX/WIREIMAGE
"It was all Stevie's doing," he said of his ousting. "Stevie basically gave the band an ultimatum that either I had to go or she would go. It would be like [Mick] Jagger saying, "Well, either Keith [Richards] has to go or I'm going to go'… But that could be seen as something almost predictable at some point given the fact that we were slightly on different planets for so long."

"You have to forgive," he added. "You have to let things go and move on and just remember that we're all doing the best we can."

Nicks, for her part, denied Buckingham's account of his departure, calling it "revisionist history."

"I did not demand he be fired. Frankly, I fired myself," the "Stand Back" singer said in a statement. "I proactively removed myself from the band and a situation I considered to be toxic to my well-being. I was done. If the band went on without me, so be it."

bombaysaffires 02-15-2022 09:06 PM

MUSIC

Stevie Nicks Once Told Katy Perry Not to Have 'Rivals' After Her Own Pact with Christine McVie
Stevie Nicks said she told Katy Perry that fan base rivalries were "bulls—"
By Rachel DeSantis
February 15, 2022 05:00 PM


Katy Perry, Stevie Nicks, Christine McVie | CREDIT: ERIC MCCANDLESS VIA GETTY; GREGG DEGUIRE/WIREIMAGE; IAN WEST/PA IMAGES VIA GETTY

Stevie Nicks knows the importance of being confident in your standing as a woman in the male-dominated music industry.

The Rock and Roll Hall of Famer opened up in a new interview about her longstanding friendship with Christine McVie as the only women in Fleetwood Mac, and her advice to Katy Perry that reflected a pact she and McVie had made years earlier to support each other.

Nicks, 73, told Tavi Gevinson in a lengthy interview published in The New Yorker that she once ran into Perry, 34, at the Corinthia Hotel in London circa 2012, and was surprised to hear the singer ask about rivalries.

"She said, 'So Stevie, who are your rivals?' And I said, 'I don't have rivals.' And her big blue eyes got bigger and bluer," she recalled. "And I said, 'No Katy, I don't, and neither do you. You are Katy Perry, you're who you are, you do what you do and you're great at it. I'm Stevie Nicks, I do what I do and I'm great at it. We don't have rivals. That's just ridiculous.'"

According to Nicks, the "I Kissed a Girl" singer at first rebuffed the advice, name-dropping Taylor Swift, with whom she was rumored to have had some bad blood at the time.

"She said, 'Well, there's like, the Taylor Swift army and there's like, the Katy army and there's like—' And I was like, 'That's just bulls—,'" Nicks recalled. "'You have to just walk away from that. Don't carry that around in your mind because then they're winning the game.'"

The "Dreams" singer told a story earlier in the interview involving bandmate McVie, 78, that exemplified her point — during the early days of Fleetwood Mac, the two made a pact together that they'd never be disrespected by men in the music industry.



Fleetwood Mac in September 2018 | CREDIT: JB LACROIX/WIREIMAGE

"We were very protective of each other. We made a pact, in the very beginning, that we would never be treated with disrespect by all the male musicians in the community," she said. "And we really stuck to it. I think we did the pinky swear thing that, if we ever feel like we're being treated like that, we would just get up and walk out—and we did. We would just say, "Well, this party is over for us."

Nicks said that she and McVie "instantly" became best friends after meeting, and that although their personalities were different, "sometimes opposites attract."

"She'd go, like, "You're like such a girly girl." And I'd be, like, "Well, I guess I am, but at the same time, I think I'm pretty hardcore too, Christine,'" she said. "We met in the middle… I would say to her, 'Together, we are a serious force of nature, and it will give us strength to maneuver the waters that are ahead of us.'"

bombaysaffires 02-15-2022 09:34 PM

the New Yorker article
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/th...ial-type=owned


We kept up a friendship, and, in 2017, I interviewed her for Rookie’s podcast. Then the show’s production company shut down midseason, and the conversation never aired.
...
Over two evenings last month, Nicks and I caught up over the phone. She was at her home in Santa Monica, where she has spent the pandemic keeping nocturnal hours and working on a TV series based on the Welsh myth of Rhiannon. When she apologized for asking to speak at 10:30 p.m. E.T., I assured her that I was on a similar schedule. “Good,” she said. “Then we are definitely friends of the night.” This interview has been adapted from our unpublished early conversation and our recent ones.
...

A lot of these songs were in a suitcase that was accidentally sold at a flea market after I went on the road in 1983. So the songs have been travelling around the Internet now. A lot of people out in the audience knew the songs, but then there’s the next two generations that probably didn’t know them. So I figured you just have to tell them the story of each one of those really unfamiliar songs: what it was about, who was involved, and when it was written, and build a story around it.

How did the suitcase of cassettes find its way back to you?

Well, my best friend, [Robin], when she died [of leukemia, in 1982], she was pregnant. I decided, in my completely insane state of mind, that I was just going to marry her husband so that I could take care of the child. And, well, that didn’t work very well. So, for three months, getting ready to go on a big tour, I tried to be a mom, and it was impossible. And then out of nowhere, I just said, “You know what? We need to get a divorce.” I left, and he just decided to clean out the whole house, and there was a suitcase of cassettes—I don’t really know that he knew what was on all these cassettes. He had, like, a yard sale, and I don’t think that the people who bought it necessarily even knew what was exactly in it either. But somebody [eventually] figured out what it was, and then all of a sudden all these demos were out there in the world. So some fans who found out about this bought them and sent them back to me. That’s how cool my fans are. And then I took a lot of the great demos to Nashville and said I want to record these songs, but I want it exactly as they are. And they did it. And that’s why I love that record so much, because the songs on there are really close to how I wrote them.
...

Do you have literary influences that have inspired your music?

You know, I go in and out of reading. When I have a little bit of time to myself, my Zen time at night after a show, I slice a plate of apples and I sit on my bed with as many favorite fashion magazines as I can find. I’m just a fashion-magazine hag and I used to just have thousands of tear sheets, but now that I have my little iPhone I’m taking pictures. So my camera is filled with what would’ve been my tear-out sheets. But it can be, like, four in the morning and I’ll be, like, “Let’s see, you have to wake up at eleven-thirty.” And then I kind of go, “Why would I want to be asleep right now? This is the best time of my entire day.”

Ugh, that is such a good feeling.

It is. And it’s, like, it’s mine. And almost nothing else that I do in my life is really mine. It’s all shared, and there’s always two or three people around. And I have Lily [Nicks’s dog] now. She has really saved my life, because Sulamith [Nicks’s previous dog] was sick for that last year.

...
I think, Tavi, when you are really creative, I think that staying in a creative place is the best thing you can do if you have any depression going on. I’m not bipolar, but I’m something. I call it the Nicks crazies. My dad and my two uncles and my grandfather, they all had it too. My brother. And when I have that the least is when I’m really involved in doing stuff.

It’s, like, just remember. Time passes. When you’re really in a hole, go talk to somebody now. Because it’s just going to get worse, you know. And do some fun things. Do something that really makes you happy. Or go out and rent some great movies that you’ve always wanted to see, like “Storks.” [Laughs.] It’s my favorite movie. I’ve watched it six times and it’s just so great. Have you seen it?

No. [Laughs.]

It’s the sweetest movie. It’s about the storks going out of business and they become, like, FedEx, and they only deliver packages. No more babies. And they accidentally push the wrong button and one baby comes through—there’s the little star of the whole movie. The storks are her only friends. You just have to buy this movie and have it on replay at all times. It’s a cartoon, but it’s a massive movie of life and love and sadness and tragedy. That’s my answer to depression: “Storks.”

bombaysaffires 02-15-2022 09:37 PM

Stevie from the New Yorker article about the meaning of Storms:


So you can use the tragedy. “Always been a storm” [from the song “Storms”]—that I wrote about my best friend who moved in with my boyfriend, Mick, and her husband had to call and tell me that. “Sarah moved in with Mick, I just wanted you to know that.” And I jetted out the back door into the mountains and sat out there for three hours contemplating my future, ’cause, well, I just lost my best friend and I lost Mick, and I’m in a band with Mick, which means I can’t just dump Mick.

The song, it says, “Every night that goes between I feel a little less / As you slowly go away from me / This is only another test / Every night you do not come, your softness fades away / Did I ever really care that much? / Is there anything left to say? / Every hour of fear I spend, my body tries to cry / Living through each empty night, a deadly calm inside.” And then it says, you know, “Never have I been a blue calm sea / I have always been a storm.” So that came from that. And you know what? That’s worth it. That’s worth going through. And then, when you go back to sing those songs, you reattach yourself to what happened. And it’s O.K. because it’s not forever. It’s just for that moment. So, every time I sing that, I’m sitting up there on that mountain looking down at Doheny Drive in L.A., trying to figure out how I was going to make it through this.

HomerMcvie 02-15-2022 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1272822)
I always find her pact story to be comical.

As if Christine hadn’t spent years holding her own before Stevie came around. Christine was on tours with Deep Purple. Did Stevie really think Christine was going to be intimidated by Loggins & Messina?

Christine WAS(formerly) stronger than any man. She didn't take sh*t from anyone. She's the last member of FM that I'd want to piss off!

$tevie may have needed her, but she didn't need $tevie!

Macfan4life 02-16-2022 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1272821)
wait, what? I've heard her talk about how SHE thought Robin was around as a ghost, rocking the cradle and all that.... but don't recall hearing that he thought she WAS Robin....:eek:

During her peak klonopin addiction and bottom of her career (1992) she did an interview with a wicked British guy who got her to admit many controversial things. I think I remember her bashing this guy when she got clean. I think she said he took advantage of her. The interview used to be on youtube in 4 parts but was mysteriously removed. The interview was fascinating. She talked about Don Henley outing her about her abortion and the only reason she talks about that is because he outed her. But the crazy part was her marrying Kim. She stated he got very controlling and would not let he see baby Mathew without permission. Then he once called her Robin and she got weirded out that he was thinking she was Robin. She said she just went on the road and left everything behind. The interview was sort of like when Martin Bashir interviewed Michael Jackson. He really asked her about her personal and controversial things. He even commented she seemed out of it or something along those lines. Or what happened to this rock goddess. She also mentioned how crazy she was and had to purposely evade her father when he was on the Wild Heart tour first few weeks, etc.

Now here is the part I always wondered about and this recent story helps you connect the dots. Stevie was a big drug addict during this time. I assume Kim also was into drugs? I just cant see how you would not be into drugs marrying someone like this. Her break up from Kim was on the road. The entertainment tonight episode filmed early in the Wild Heart tour mentions she got out of her marriage. I saw an early Wild Heart Show that was terrible. As soon as Gold Dust Woman was over she told the audience, "nothing can make me feel better as the way I felt a short time ago." What does that mean? It could imply she was ill or it could imply a Kim moment when the marriage was coming to an end. This is something she refused to discuss in her life until the 1990s and post klonopin .

Edit: I did some research. This may be the printed article the audio interview is based on. The most controversial things did not make it to print? But the audio interview was posted online for awhile when youtube was young. She infers 4 abortions? This magazine interview is rather positive compared to the things she said in the long interview. It does paint her as a sobbing and aging rock star but the interview is more cut throat. He calls her flaky in this print interview. The full audio interview is jaw dropping. I also saw in google that his article was posted and discussed on the Ledge many moons ago. I just wish the audio still exists somewhere online. To say Stevie opened up about her life is an understatement. Is it a fair interview or a hit job? You decide.

https://fleetwoodmac-uk.com/wp/come-...zine-feb-1992/

blinker12 02-16-2022 08:18 AM

This was pretty rambly but it was nice to read at the very end that she’s written a new song she’s proud of.

ricohv 02-16-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1272829)
Edit: I did some research. This may be the printed article the audio interview is based on. The most controversial things did not make it to print? But the audio interview was posted online for awhile when youtube was young. She infers 4 abortions? This magazine interview is rather positive compared to the things she said in the long interview. It does paint her as a sobbing and aging rock star but the interview is more cut throat. He calls her flaky in this print interview. The full audio interview is jaw dropping. I also saw in google that his article was posted and discussed on the Ledge many moons ago. I just wish the audio still exists somewhere online. To say Stevie opened up about her life is an understatement. Is it a fair interview or a hit job? You decide.
https://fleetwoodmac-uk.com/wp/come-...zine-feb-1992/

YES! That is the article the audio interview is based on. I remember both, but I think I remember in the audio she never mentioned the four abortions, right? So that part appeared to be totally fabricated. The interviewer was clearly a biased hack. BUT...she was a zonked out kook who gave him him all the ammunition he needed to paint her the way he did. Also, in the original article he talked about following her up the bell tower and looking up her dress (anyone remember that?) That part somehow didn't make it into this condensed version of the article. I believe the original article also mentioned the view from the bell tower to "Old Queens Road" or some such thing. I recognized this a couple years later when she did that odd segment for some show about veterans (or something??) where she read the weird poem about her movie star view and Old Queens (or was it Kings?) Road.
I remember this clearly because this was back in the pre-Youtube/internet days when interviews and press were scarce because she really was at the darkest depths of her career. So random press like this was all we had to hang on to. She just seemed so odd, but now we know she was lost in the Klonopin haze!

Macfan4life 02-16-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ricohv (Post 1272831)
YES! That is the article the audio interview is based on. I remember both, but I think I remember in the audio she never mentioned the four abortions, right? So that part appeared to be totally fabricated. The interviewer was clearly a biased hack. BUT...she was a zonked out kook who gave him him all the ammunition he needed to paint her the way he did. Also, in the original article he talked about following her up the bell tower and looking up her dress (anyone remember that?) That part somehow didn't make it into this condensed version of the article. I believe the original article also mentioned the view from the bell tower to "Old Queens Road" or some such thing. I recognized this a couple years later when she did that odd segment for some show about veterans (or something??) where she read the weird poem about her movie star view and Old Queens (or was it Kings?) Road.
I remember this clearly because this was back in the pre-Youtube/internet days when interviews and press were scarce because she really was at the darkest depths of her career. So random press like this was all we had to hang on to. She just seemed so odd, but now we know she was lost in the Klonopin haze!

Yes you are correct. Good memory. I also don't remember the 4 abortions but she does go into detail at her disgust for Don for how he outed her. He put the 4 abortions part in the headline so what the hell?
I seem to remember his comments he added before each segment where he sort of dissed her. Its a sad article but you have to put it in perspetive. It was 1992, she fought her record company about doing a Bon Jovi song and she did it with protest and it still turned out to be a flop. She had a fight with Mick and quit Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac was sort of toast back then too. So from her perspective she could have thought her career was over and it was time to spill the beans. She was heavily tranquilized so she revealed everything......probably too much. However he was a jerk about it because he could have put a positive spin on the article but he chose not to and called her flaky. In her state, he could have been honest too and was reporting what he saw. This was one year before she crashed into the fireplace :eek: Her marriage to Kim parts were incredibly crazy.

HomerMcvie 02-16-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1272833)
Yes you are correct. Good memory. I also don't remember the 4 abortions but she does go into detail at her disgust for Don for how he outed her. He put the 4 abortions part in the headline so what the hell?
I seem to remember his comments he added before each segment where he sort of dissed her. Its a sad article but you have to put it in perspetive. It was 1992, she fought her record company about doing a Bon Jovi song and she did it with protest and it still turned out to be a flop. She had a fight with Mick and quit Fleetwood Mac. Fleetwood Mac was sort of toast back then too. So from her perspective she could have thought her career was over and it was time to spill the beans. She was heavily tranquilized so she revealed everything......probably too much. However he was a jerk about it because he could have put a positive spin on the article but he chose not to and called her flaky. In her state, he could have been honest too and was reporting what he saw. This was one year before she crashed into the fireplace :eek: Her marriage to Kim parts were incredibly crazy.

$he shouldn't hide from the truth. So what if $he has a charge account at PP.:p

Don was probably sick of her.

Are you saying $he's not flaky? What IS her longest lasting relationship??? I really don't know the math on this one.

aleuzzi 02-16-2022 06:50 PM

Holy Storks and ponchos, Batman, that was a fun article to read. Never knew about the tapes being sold in the suitcase.

At times, she's as mad and revisionist as she's ever been, but I did enjoy much of this.

And I agree: when I first watched Purple Rain, Prince's slap jarred me.

UnwindedDreams 02-16-2022 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1272835)
Holy Storks and ponchos, Batman, that was a fun article to read. Never knew about the tapes being sold in the suitcase.

At times, she's as mad and revisionist as she's ever been, but I did enjoy much of this.

And I agree: when I first watched Purple Rain, Prince's slap jarred me.

I don't think she means to be revisionist. I think there was memory loss/capability caused from the drug abuse.

The Katy Perry rival talk wasn't about Taylor, it was Gaga.

vivfox 02-16-2022 09:53 PM

If my memory serves me right, Stevie was in Australia when Tom Petty died. She had already flown there a full month before her first show. I do recall her telling some interviewer back then that Tom would have wanted her to not cancel her tour. In this article she claims she watched the red light of the ambulance from her window in California, that Tom rode in to the hospital. And then how she found out it was him in that ambulance the next day when she went to the hospital.

Another thing I found odd in the article was how she told Katy Perry she had no rivals. Back in the late 1970's, Stevie took many digs at Pat Benatar in the press.

SteveMacD 02-16-2022 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1272837)
If my memory serves me right, Stevie was in Australia when Tom Petty died. She had already flown there a full month before her first show. I do recall her telling some interviewer back then that Tom would have wanted her to not cancel her tour. In this article she claims she watched the red light of the ambulance from her window in California, that Tom rode in to the hospital. And then how she found out it was him in that ambulance the next day when she went to the hospital.

She was in Los Angeles. Her Australia tour didn’t start until November 2, a month after Tom died.

HomerMcvie 02-16-2022 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1272837)
In this article she claims she watched the red light of the ambulance from her window in California, that Tom rode in to the hospital. And then how she found out it was him in that ambulance the next day when she went to the hospital.

My god, she's certifiably crazy. What a delusional drama queen.

Macfan4life 02-17-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1272841)
My god, she's certifiably crazy. What a delusional drama queen.

You missed the last part of the interview where she claims the ambulance passed N. Orange Avenue and Fairfax.

vivfox 02-17-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1272838)
She was in Los Angeles. Her Australia tour didn’t start until November 2, a month after Tom died.

I told you she had flown to Aus. a full month before the tour began Down Under.

vivfox 02-17-2022 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1272825)
She was at her home in Santa Monica, where she has spent the pandemic keeping nocturnal hours and working on a TV series based on the Welsh myth of Rhiannon. When she apologized for asking to speak at 10:30 p.m.

I love how this was tossed into the beginning of the interview. Just exactly how is Stevie working on this mini series? Is she writing the script, or producing the project or scouring Hollywood for the right actors? If she were actually involved in any real way she'd be screaming it from the rooftops for the past two years. If this project ever happens at all the only thing she'll have worked on is sending the copyright music to the film score.:lol:

bombaysaffires 02-17-2022 01:29 PM

the part about seeing Tom's ambulance wasn't about being there when it ACTUALLY happened.

It's about her getting 'signs' from people who have passed on. So she talks about how her mother makes her presence known 'from the other side' by shining a ray of light through a particular crystal in a chandelier. Or by magically helping her suddenly find something she's lost in her house. She was saying she got a sign from Tom in the form of a red light that she watched one night coming down from somewhere around Malibu, where he collapsed in his studio, and she saw this light move from the area of his house down to the city and stopped in the general area of the hospital. And she realized later that the route the red light took would have been the route Tom's ambulance would have taken from his house to the hospital and so that was her 'sign' from him. The weirdest part is she said she went to the hospital the next day after watching the light-- did she just walk in and go, Hi I want to know if this is where Tom Petty was brought when he died?? Or does she just mean she drove (ok, got Karen to drive her) to where she thought she saw the light end, and realized oh it's by this hospital??

Not to knock anyone's spiritual beliefs, but the thing with looking for 'signs' is you can turn anything into one if you really want to.

bombaysaffires 02-17-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1272849)
I love how this was tossed into the beginning of the interview. Just exactly how is Stevie working on this mini series? Is she writing the script, or producing the project or scouring Hollywood for the right actors? If she were actually involved in any real way she'd be screaming it from the rooftops for the past two years. If this project ever happens at all the only thing she'll have worked on is sending the copyright music to the film score.:lol:

yep. how.many.times. have we heard about this project being made, and made into 1) a movie 2) a ballet and now 3) a tv show. I mean she could well have been talking to American Horror Story guy or whatever show it was she was on about it, but come on, WTF has anyone been doing during covid?? Like, two years of NOTHING and where you could have had all that time you supposedly crave to be able to focus on it, and still NOTHING? Oy.

HomerMcvie 02-17-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1272857)
yep. how.many.times. have we heard about this project being made, and made into 1) a movie 2) a ballet and now 3) a tv show. I mean she could well have been talking to American Horror Story guy or whatever show it was she was on about it, but come on, WTF has anyone been doing during covid?? Like, two years of NOTHING and where you could have had all that time you supposedly crave to be able to focus on it, and still NOTHING? Oy.

I've got a People magazine article where she was talking about it.......in the 70's!!!!! She's approaching a HALF A CENTURY of talking about it.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

BigAl84 02-17-2022 03:02 PM

jfc why did I waste my time reading that? 2+ years isolated at home and she still has nothing new to say.

BigAl84 02-17-2022 03:05 PM

Also for somebody who claims to be a giant Stevie fan - their pre-interview research really sucks. Clearly, she's barely read anything. All of this has been discussed ad nauseam for years.

This is the kind of stuff that is most important to Stevie right now. A person from a younger generation falling all over her in an interview that primarily focuses on the persona of Stevie Nicks.

vivfox 02-17-2022 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1272863)
This is the kind of stuff that is most important to Stevie right now. A person from a younger generation falling all over her in an interview that primarily focuses on the persona of Stevie Nicks.

Is Rolling Stone the ONLY publication that has the balls to ask her why she really had Lindsey fired from the group? I wanna hear more of the "I fired myself" bullchit.

UnwindedDreams 02-17-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1272866)
Is Rolling Stone the ONLY publication that has the balls to ask her why she really had Lindsey fired from the group? I wanna hear more of the "I fired myself" bullchit.

Would have been perfect for this writer to ask her what does the future hold for Fleetwood Mac

And how about Stevie getting into depression and the "Nicks crazies"
If I am depressed, Stevie urges me to watch Storks!

David 02-17-2022 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1272863)
Also for somebody who claims to be a giant Stevie fan - their pre-interview research really sucks. Clearly, she's barely read anything. All of this has been discussed ad nauseam for years.

I realize this article is just a digital-only feature that apparently is running as part of a larger series, but my God what has happened to the New Yorker? From Cheever and Nabokov and John O’Hara and Salinger and Thurber and Updike and Welty to — this? An interview that would have been right at home in Teen Beat?

bombaysaffires 02-17-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1272863)
Also for somebody who claims to be a giant Stevie fan - their pre-interview research really sucks. Clearly, she's barely read anything. All of this has been discussed ad nauseam for years.

This is the kind of stuff that is most important to Stevie right now. A person from a younger generation falling all over her in an interview that primarily focuses on the persona of Stevie Nicks.

that's exactly what she's focused on.... solidifying the historical narrative about who she was and what she accomplished and all that which will live on after she's gone.

But what's interesting to me is that she has to be aware that all sorts of books about people come out after they die... and people who didn't talk while that person was alive suddenly feel like they can tell the REAL stories after they die. So to me it seems like she's really focused on nailing down what version of her career she wants to stand as the official version to counter all the dirt that may come out later. As noted so many times before, she's engaged in a whole lotta revisionist history in the last decade or more.

I also found it fascinating that she complained about the only time she has to herself is at like 4am because otherwise there's always 3-4 people hanging around her. I would ask, Whose fault is that?? She's the one who always had different people moving into her house and doing her bidding.. not just assistants but friends and boyfriends and all that. And frankly, if she 'vants to be alone' like Dietrich, uh..... KICK THE FREELOADERS OUT??? I mean wtf? Even if it's the niece and her partner and kid, let them go find their own house. I don't get it. And if it's people doing your housecleaning and laundry and lawn and all that, I don't have much sympathy that they're around during the day.

She really is getting flakier in her old age. She spent her entire existence pursuing fame, and then she got it, big time, and it didn't bring her the comfort she thought it would. Lindsey may be his own piece of work, but he kinda got it right about her on this.

BigAl84 02-17-2022 10:18 PM

Excuse the tangent here…I’ve been getting into Lucinda Williams lately and looking into her discography and seeing the shear amount of albums and projects shes’s done…if anyone should be bragging about being prolific it should be her. Stevie’s touring has been far more prolific than recording at this point. There are so many other artists out there who have been super busy, immersed in their craft, and too busy to be patting themselves on the back to the press about their pop culture status. My tolerance for the same old Stevie narrative BS is nonexistent these days.

UnwindedDreams 02-17-2022 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1272880)
Excuse the tangent here…I’ve been getting into Lucinda Williams lately and looking into her discography and seeing the shear amount of albums and projects shes’s done…if anyone should be bragging about being prolific it should be her. Stevie’s touring has been far more prolific than recording at this point. There are so many other artists out there who have been super busy, immersed in their craft, and too busy to be patting themselves on the back to the press about their pop culture status. My tolerance for the same old Stevie narrative BS is nonexistent these days.

Yes! Lucinda, Linda Ronstadt, Bonnie Raitt, Janet, Joni, Mary J Blige, Carole, and Madonna.

bombaysaffires 02-17-2022 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1272881)
Yes! Lucinda, Linda Ronstadt, Bonnie Raitt, Janet, Joni, Mary J Blige, Carole, and Madonna.

Even Taylor Swift. She continued re-recording her old albums and put out TWO new albums during Covid. Like her or not she's prolific.

David 02-18-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1272881)
Yes! Lucinda, Linda Ronstadt, Bonnie Raitt, Janet, Joni, Mary J Blige, Carole, and Madonna.

Imagine Stevie playing the Super Bowl halftime — 80,000 football fans reveling in her Welsh witch magic, basking in her otherworldly glow. She could sing Rhiannon and something else that didn’t require her to fiddle with her in-ear monitor quite so much.

UnwindedDreams 02-18-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1272892)
Imagine Stevie playing the Super Bowl halftime — 80,000 football fans reveling in her Welsh witch magic, basking in her otherworldly glow. She could sing Rhiannon and something else that didn’t require her to fiddle with her in-ear monitor quite so much.

No set's complete without Enchanted and a tambourine raising!

BigAl84 02-18-2022 02:42 PM

I've been saying this for years...nobody can piss away a decade like the members of Fleetwood Mac. I completely understand what Lindsey meant in the Destiny Rules documentary when he said he "was looking forward to stringing along a couple of years" and "having a hell of a run" probably hoping that more new material would come out of the Say You Will era...HA.

For such a recognized bunch of people as a band and solo, they are also some of the most unprolific artists at the same time.

Yes, Lindsey had some long stretches too. Luckily, things really picked up in 2006.

Stevie's current voice could lend itself to some amazing moody/rootsy albums, but she'll always be too focused on creating some sort of pop hit that she feels she's expected to do for her own legacy....instead of interesting projects that folks like Joni or Lucinda have persued in the later years of their career. Stevie doing a series of albums for rough trade or lost highway records is so intriguing, but it's pretty clear that she's only interested in working with Warner Reprise. Ironically, Warner/Reprise hasn't truly given a darn about her solo career in 20 years, only if it coincides with a Fleetwood Mac payday. They didn't even put out her last live album from the 24k tour.


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