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bombaysaffires 08-18-2021 11:30 PM

Stevie writing her memoirs?
 
We all know Stevie likes to re-write history, and she's at it again. And she's recently been thinking about capturing her memories on tape, and it would take 4 different books to capture her life.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/18/stevie...ed-my-cocaine/

Stevie Nicks says she ‘saved’ herself from addiction: ‘I survived my cocaine’
By Samantha Ibrahim
August 18, 2021 7:18pm Updated

Sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll is a mantra Stevie Nicks used to live by — like many other musicians in the industry — but no longer.

The iconic singer opened up to Tim McGraw on his Apple Music Country show “Beyond the Influence Radio” on Wednesday about how she “saved” herself from her addiction issues.

Nicks, 73, said if she were to ever share her life story with fans, the Fleetwood Mac frontwoman would like to avoid sharing her experiences with drugs.

“I managed to save myself. I got through some pretty scary moments, but I saved me, nobody else saved me,” she told the country singer. “I survived me. I survived my cocaine. I survived by myself.”

“I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me. I did it and that’s like with my whole life,” she continued. “So I would dance over those parts just to give the wisdom out to people.”

Nicks added that the concept of publishing her life story has taken her years to think about. If she ever did, she added, it would need to be chopped up into four different books.

“I think that what I would do first, and only lately have I thought this, I might sit down at some point across the kitchen table with some of my girlfriends who have been there for a lot of it and put on a tape recorder and just start talking from the very beginning,” she said.

In 1981, Nicks embarked on a solo career after joining Fleetwood Mac in 1975. “Fleetwood Mac was my team,” she explained to McGraw. “I had them and I felt safe. So I felt like, ‘I’m not trying to break up this band, I’m just trying to actually keep this band together.’ Because what’s going to keep this band together is me being able to make the odd solo album here and there when you guys are doing other things.”

Back in October, the “Edge of Seventeen” crooner told the Associated Press that the pandemic forced her to be homebound when she prefers to be singing live on the road.

“This pandemic is more than just a pandemic for me. This is stealing what I consider to be my last youthful years,” Nicks told the AP. “I don’t have just 10 years to hang around and wait for this thing to go away. I have places to go, people to sing for, another album to make. With every day that goes by, it’s like taking this time away from me. That I think is the hardest thing for me.”

“I have a lot of friends that are 60 and they’re going, ‘Oh I’m so old, I’m 60.’ I’m like, ‘You know what, the violins of the world are playing for you. You’re going to really appreciate 60 when you turn 72,’” she continued at the time. “I don’t feel like the whole world is really getting behind getting this to go away. I feel like people are just thinking it really is just magically going away. All it takes is a few people that don’t wear a mask to spread. Just let one person catch it from you and there it goes — it’s like the never-ending story. That worries me because I’m going, ‘Will it really be gone by the end of 2021?'”

Jondalar 08-19-2021 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1268897)
We all know Stevie likes to re-write history, and she's at it again. And she's recently been thinking about capturing her memories on tape, and it would take 4 different books to capture her life.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/18/stevie...ed-my-cocaine/

Stevie Nicks says she ‘saved’ herself from addiction: ‘I survived my cocaine’
By Samantha Ibrahim
August 18, 2021 7:18pm Updated

Sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll is a mantra Stevie Nicks used to live by — like many other musicians in the industry — but no longer.

The iconic singer opened up to Tim McGraw on his Apple Music Country show “Beyond the Influence Radio” on Wednesday about how she “saved” herself from her addiction issues.

Nicks, 73, said if she were to ever share her life story with fans, the Fleetwood Mac frontwoman would like to avoid sharing her experiences with drugs.

“I managed to save myself. I got through some pretty scary moments, but I saved me, nobody else saved me,” she told the country singer. “I survived me. I survived my cocaine. I survived by myself.”

“I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me. I did it and that’s like with my whole life,” she continued. “So I would dance over those parts just to give the wisdom out to people.”

Nicks added that the concept of publishing her life story has taken her years to think about. If she ever did, she added, it would need to be chopped up into four different books.

“I think that what I would do first, and only lately have I thought this, I might sit down at some point across the kitchen table with some of my girlfriends who have been there for a lot of it and put on a tape recorder and just start talking from the very beginning,” she said.

In 1981, Nicks embarked on a solo career after joining Fleetwood Mac in 1975. “Fleetwood Mac was my team,” she explained to McGraw. “I had them and I felt safe. So I felt like, ‘I’m not trying to break up this band, I’m just trying to actually keep this band together.’ Because what’s going to keep this band together is me being able to make the odd solo album here and there when you guys are doing other things.”

Back in October, the “Edge of Seventeen” crooner told the Associated Press that the pandemic forced her to be homebound when she prefers to be singing live on the road.

“This pandemic is more than just a pandemic for me. This is stealing what I consider to be my last youthful years,” Nicks told the AP. “I don’t have just 10 years to hang around and wait for this thing to go away. I have places to go, people to sing for, another album to make. With every day that goes by, it’s like taking this time away from me. That I think is the hardest thing for me.”

“I have a lot of friends that are 60 and they’re going, ‘Oh I’m so old, I’m 60.’ I’m like, ‘You know what, the violins of the world are playing for you. You’re going to really appreciate 60 when you turn 72,’” she continued at the time. “I don’t feel like the whole world is really getting behind getting this to go away. I feel like people are just thinking it really is just magically going away. All it takes is a few people that don’t wear a mask to spread. Just let one person catch it from you and there it goes — it’s like the never-ending story. That worries me because I’m going, ‘Will it really be gone by the end of 2021?'”

You think she will leave out the hundreds oof men she slept with?

DownOnRodeo 08-19-2021 02:55 AM

Quote:

“I don’t have just 10 years to hang around and wait for this thing to go away. I have places to go, people to sing for, another album to make.”
I guess she must have to travel to all those apartments she was planning on dancing around in.

Macfan4life 08-19-2021 03:48 AM

Is she high? Seriously.
"I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me"

She is rewriting history. Her management forced her to go. She bailed on Betty Ford and did not even complete 30 days. She wrote a song called "Escape from Berlin" pretty much bashing the rehab center. When she got out, she took aim at everyone who tried to get her help and fired her management company.

She has even blamed her use of klonopin on other people. She has always stated her friends were so fearful she would relapse they sent her to a doctor.

I think she did about 5 lines before doing this interview.

Villavic 08-19-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268900)
Is she high? Seriously.
"I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me"

She is rewriting history. Her management forced her to go. She bailed on Betty Ford and did not even complete 30 days. She wrote a song called "Escape from Berlin" pretty much bashing the rehab center. When she got out, she took aim at everyone who tried to get her help and fired her management company.

She has even blamed her use of klonopin on other people. She has always stated her friends were so fearful she would relapse they sent her to a doctor.

I think she did about 5 lines before doing this interview.

Yes, even Mick's first book she was forced:

Complicating matters slightly in the spring of 1987 was Stevie's admission to the Betty Ford Center in Palm Springs to get her life under control. This was done through an "intervention" by friends, members of her family, and the management company. Stevie spent twenty-eight days in a successful treatment for alcohol problems, but she didn't like being coerced into entering this facility, and Frontline was fired shortly thereafter.

Macfan4life 08-19-2021 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1268903)
Yes, even Mick's first book she was forced:

Complicating matters slightly in the spring of 1987 was Stevie's admission to the Betty Ford Center in Palm Springs to get her life under control. This was done through an "intervention" by friends, members of her family, and the management company. Stevie spent twenty-eight days in a successful treatment for alcohol problems, but she didn't like being coerced into entering this facility, and Frontline was fired shortly thereafter.

True but I don't need the book as a reminder. I remember it in real time. Notice it was 28 days. She was supposed to stay at least 30. I remember MTV clips like "Stevie runs away from rehab and is not talking to anyone". Indirectly this led to her klonopin addiction. Because she ditched rehab her friends and family became even more concerned thus requesting her see a doctor. When her tranquilizer addiction was full bloom no one dared say a word because of what happened the first time. Everyone was fired so they all became silent enablers.

On Ice 08-19-2021 08:59 AM

:sorry: Stevie is just following the trend of history rewriting and facts don't matter. It works wonders for people with power and influence. Disappointing at this stage to see her try to pass off a total lie about her past and people swallow it up. So many people who stood by her so thoroughly thrown under the bus. Wonder how Sharona really feels?

jbrownsjr 08-19-2021 09:44 AM

Let me get this straight... $tevie Nicks lied to the public to make herself look better? This is unbelievable!!!

sleepless child 08-19-2021 10:22 AM

Her comments on keeping the Mac together fall flat also. She so lives in the past. I'm sure Tim was instructed to not ask her about Lindsey. Interesting interview though. I never knew she had a record deal out of high school.

sue 08-19-2021 10:25 AM

She says her life story would have to be chopped up into Four books.

One: before Fleetwood Mac
Two: the Mac years
Three: solo career
And what ??

maybe ideas for the fourth book could be
The drug years..
How to sh*g anyone and everyone..
My cook book recipes..
How to build an ego.
How to handle HR problems in business..( how to fire staff)
Selective memory and how it works…
Etc etc etc

HomerMcvie 08-19-2021 10:59 AM

"It's not a lie, if you believe it Jerry". - George $tevie Costanza

$he really is NUTS. It's like $he doesn't think that thousands of people know the truth, yet $he's going to sit there and lie through her teeth.

What a LOON. What a F*CKING LOON.

Macfan4life 08-19-2021 11:59 AM

A few more things that raise eyebrows in her memoir.

She taught Lindsey how to play guitar
She played the piano opening riff to Hold Me

BombaySapphire3 08-19-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268914)
A few more things that raise eyebrows in her memoir.

She taught Lindsey how to play guitar
She played the piano opening riff to Hold Me

I really do believe that she needs to be assessed for some form of dementia at this point.

lilyfee 08-19-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1268897)
“I think that what I would do first, and only lately have I thought this, I might sit down at some point across the kitchen table with some of my girlfriends who have been there for a lot of it and put on a tape recorder and just start talking from the very beginning,” she said.

A recent Audible survey teased the idea of Stevie doing an audiobook as part of its Words+Music series. I’ve used Audible for a long time and usually when we get surveyed on something, it’s already in the works. I hope this is what Stevie is talking about!

Villavic 08-19-2021 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268914)
A few more things that raise eyebrows in her memoir.

She taught Lindsey how to play guitar
She played the piano opening riff to Hold Me

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bwboy 08-19-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268900)
Is she high? Seriously.
"I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me"

She is rewriting history. Her management forced her to go. She bailed on Betty Ford and did not even complete 30 days. She wrote a song called "Escape from Berlin" pretty much bashing the rehab center. When she got out, she took aim at everyone who tried to get her help and fired her management company.

She has even blamed her use of klonopin on other people. She has always stated her friends were so fearful she would relapse they sent her to a doctor.

I think she did about 5 lines before doing this interview.

Her management company didn’t force her to go to rehab. That doesn’t happen in America. They may have threatened to drop her or something like that, but a person has to want to quit in order to quit. Stevie could have said no, but she didn’t- she went to rehab and she quit doing cocaine. You say she only stayed 28 days instead of 30? Many people go to rehab a dozen times and still never quit using drugs. Addiction is powerful, and it sucks. She didn’t like her experience at rehab? Most people don’t. It’s hard and terrifying and humiliating. Same thing with psychiatric hospitals- most people hate being there, even though it may have ultimately helped them.

I’ve worked with people struggling with addiction. The fact that she quit cocaine after one stint in rehab is surprising. She should take credit for staying off drugs. It’s a miracle none of the Rumours 5 have died of a drug overdose.

jbrownsjr 08-19-2021 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268900)
Is she high? Seriously.
"I checked myself into rehab. Nobody did that for me"

She is rewriting history. Her management forced her to go. She bailed on Betty Ford and did not even complete 30 days. She wrote a song called "Escape from Berlin" pretty much bashing the rehab center. When she got out, she took aim at everyone who tried to get her help and fired her management company.

She has even blamed her use of klonopin on other people. She has always stated her friends were so fearful she would relapse they sent her to a doctor.

I think she did about 5 lines before doing this interview.

So much for depending on her friends to tell her when to stop it.....

Remember when Stevie saved Lindsey after his heart attack. Her note to him saved him. :distress:

HomerMcvie 08-19-2021 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1268919)

Remember when Stevie saved Lindsey after his heart attack. Her note to him saved him. :distress:

I remember that! $he ran to him and performed CPR, then $he took off her moon pendant and used it as a makeshift scalpel, and performed open heart surgery on him.

He'd be DEAD if it weren't for her! He owes her EVERYTHING!!!

Macfan4life 08-19-2021 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1268918)
Her management company didn’t force her to go to rehab. That doesn’t happen in America. They may have threatened to drop her or something like that, but a person has to want to quit in order to quit. Stevie could have said no, but she didn’t- she went to rehab and she quit doing cocaine. You say she only stayed 28 days instead of 30? Many people go to rehab a dozen times and still never quit using drugs. Addiction is powerful, and it sucks. She didn’t like her experience at rehab? Most people don’t. It’s hard and terrifying and humiliating. Same thing with psychiatric hospitals- most people hate being there, even though it may have ultimately helped them.

I’ve worked with people struggling with addiction. The fact that she quit cocaine after one stint in rehab is surprising. She should take credit for staying off drugs. It’s a miracle none of the Rumours 5 have died of a drug overdose.

I am driving a car and you are my passenger. Suddenly I press the gas pedal to the floor and take my hands off the wheel. There is a curve near a cliff coming up. You grab the wheel. Did I force you to take the wheel? By your logic, I did not. We don't do that in America. You were free to sit back and relax and enjoy the view.
C'mon I cant believe even you believe this rubbish. So Mick is lying in his book how everyone including management "forced" her to go. If she did not feel forced then why did she retaliate against her management company?
When you ditch rehab you fail mister. Talk to any substance abuse counselor. If she had been on probation, she would have been arrested for such an act. Her inspiration for Escape from Berlin was her escape from rehab. Its a play on words but people were shot and swam under icy rivers to escape Berlin. This was her analogy of how she felt. Her words, not mine.

aleuzzi 08-19-2021 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1268920)
I remember that! $he ran to him and performed CPR, then $he took off her moon pendant and used it as a makeshift scalpel, and performed open heart surgery on him.

He'd be DEAD if it weren't for her! He owes her EVERYTHING!!!

Landslide is about her saving Lindsey’s life through the healing power of over-obvious advice. She realizes this now.

UnwindedDreams 08-19-2021 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268921)
I am driving a car and you are my passenger. Suddenly I press the gas pedal to the floor and take my hands off the wheel. There is a curve near a cliff coming up. You grab the wheel. Did I force you to take the wheel? By your logic, I did not. We don't do that in America. You were free to sit back and relax and enjoy the view.
C'mon I cant believe even you believe this rubbish. So Mick is lying in his book how everyone including management "forced" her to go. If she did not feel forced then why did she retaliate against her management company?
When you ditch rehab you fail mister. Talk to any substance abuse counselor. If she had been on probation, she would have been arrested for such an act. Her inspiration for Escape from Berlin was her escape from rehab. Its a play on words but people were shot and swam under icy rivers to escape Berlin. This was her analogy of how she felt. Her words, not mine.

By "forced" I thought you meant they handcuffed her and drove her to rehab:p

She's also said she went to rehab because she was mad at everyone for telling her she "had" to go.

But then again, what is "had"? Is that force?

UnwindedDreams 08-19-2021 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1268922)
Landslide is about her saving Lindsey’s life through the healing power of over-obvious advice. She realizes this now.

And so changed my life~
:laugh:

aleuzzi 08-19-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1268925)
And so changed my life~
:laugh:

I mean, has anyone ever written anything for HER?

UnwindedDreams 08-19-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1268926)
I mean, has anyone ever written anything for HER?

:laugh: Classic!

HomerMcvie 08-19-2021 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268921)
I am driving a car and you are my passenger. Suddenly I press the gas pedal to the floor and take my hands off the wheel. There is a curve near a cliff coming up. You grab the wheel. Did I force you to take the wheel? By your logic, I did not. We don't do that in America. You were free to sit back and relax and enjoy the view.
C'mon I cant believe even you believe this rubbish. So Mick is lying in his book how everyone including management "forced" her to go. If she did not feel forced then why did she retaliate against her management company?
When you ditch rehab you fail mister. Talk to any substance abuse counselor. If she had been on probation, she would have been arrested for such an act. Her inspiration for Escape from Berlin was her escape from rehab. Its a play on words but people were shot and swam under icy rivers to escape Berlin. This was her analogy of how she felt. Her words, not mine.

BW is the ultimate FANBOY. Let him revel in his delusions.:p

HomerMcvie 08-19-2021 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1268922)
Landslide is about her saving Lindsey’s life through the healing power of over-obvious advice. She realizes this now.

The world would have most likely ended in 1975, if $tevie hadn't saved the world by joining FM.:laugh:

HomerMcvie 08-19-2021 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1268926)
I mean, has anyone ever written anything for HER?

Bills.

Cocaine bills.

They've written cocaine bills for her.

In her darkest hour...

jbrownsjr 08-19-2021 07:04 PM

And just imagine how insulting that is to the people that actually helped her through the drug addiction, and had to put up with and endure her abuse while doing so.
I bet she was really nice to everyone that was trying to "tell her when to stop it". Give me a break.

...And credit to Aleuzzi for finishing my thought for me.

bwboy 08-19-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268921)
If she did not feel forced then why did she retaliate against her management company?
When you ditch rehab you fail mister. Talk to any substance abuse counselor. If she had been on probation, she would have been arrested for such an act. Her inspiration for Escape from Berlin was her escape from rehab. Its a play on words but people were shot and swam under icy rivers to escape Berlin. This was her analogy of how she felt. Her words, not mine.

I am a substance abuse counselor. No, a substance abuse counselor would not say that someone who left rehab after 28 days failed. But regardless, the proof is evident she didn’t fail- she did, in fact, quit doing cocaine. I don’t see how you call that a failure. She could have stayed the extra two days and then left and did cocaine again- that would be failing. It doesn’t matter how long someone stays in rehab- what matters is whether you quit doing drugs.

As for why she “retaliated” against her company, I don’t know why but I would suspect she fired them because she didn’t think they were doing a good job, or she didn’t like how they did things. They did an intervention for her after her tour was over. Not while she was recording RAL, not before her tour, and not during the tour, but after. You’d almost think they wanted to make sure their commodity made as money as she could for their company before they intervened to get her into rehab. But that’s business for you.

UnwindedDreams 08-19-2021 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1268933)
I am a substance abuse counselor. No, a substance abuse counselor would not say that someone who left rehab after 28 days failed.

Isn't everything planned to the bone? Why isn't a treatment program 28 days then?

I know plenty of addicts who believe they failed if they didn't reach a milestone of sobriety, i.e. 30 days.

Treatment isn't just about stopping the specific drug use. It's about mind, body, and soul. Hence, quitting the drug isn't the only goal but rather a transformation of being into a spiritual person and a grateful one.

See The Serenity Prayer.

aleuzzi 08-19-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1268932)
And just imagine how insulting that is to the people that actually helped her through the drug addiction, and had to put up with and endure her abuse while doing so.
I bet she was really nice to everyone that was trying to "tell her when to stop it". Give me a break.

...And credit to Aleuzzi for finishing my thought for me.

Very uncharacteristic of me. I can rarely finish my own thoughts. I am...ellipsis....Excalibur...

aleuzzi 08-19-2021 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1268930)
Bills.

Cocaine bills.

They've written cocaine bills for her.

In her darkest hour...

I forgot. Sandy Stewart “co-wrote” Seven Wonders. For her. With her help. Her word. Emmeline. The most expensive and misheard word in all of pop song craft.

vivfox 08-20-2021 12:30 AM

We'll see her autobiography when we see her Rhiannon movie. Like never.

Macfan4life 08-20-2021 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1268924)
By "forced" I thought you meant they handcuffed her and drove her to rehab:p

She's also said she went to rehab because she was mad at everyone for telling her she "had" to go.

But then again, what is "had"? Is that force?

That's kidnapping and abduction.

Forced - an adjective
to impose by coercion

Macfan4life 08-20-2021 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1268933)
I am a substance abuse counselor. No, a substance abuse counselor would not say that someone who left rehab after 28 days failed. But regardless, the proof is evident she didn’t fail- she did, in fact, quit doing cocaine. I don’t see how you call that a failure. She could have stayed the extra two days and then left and did cocaine again- that would be failing. It doesn’t matter how long someone stays in rehab- what matters is whether you quit doing drugs.

As for why she “retaliated” against her company, I don’t know why but I would suspect she fired them because she didn’t think they were doing a good job, or she didn’t like how they did things. They did an intervention for her after her tour was over. Not while she was recording RAL, not before her tour, and not during the tour, but after. You’d almost think they wanted to make sure their commodity made as money as she could for their company before they intervened to get her into rehab. But that’s business for you.

As a substance abuse counselor you are aware that addiction is powerful. Many addicts switch to other drugs to keep the addiction going. That's exactly what Stevie did. She left cocaine and went right into tranquilizers. Maybe if she was successful and did not leave rehab early and retaliate against everyone, she could have beat addiction the first time. As a substance abuse counselor you are also aware that addicts frequently blame their behavior on other people. That's exactly what Stevie has always done. First it was people that forced her to go to rehab. Then it was friends that forced her to see a doctor. Then it was the doctor who kept prescribing the drug. At some point you must be accountable for your behavior and decisions. An addict will always seek out drugs and more drugs.
Success is defined by staying in a treatment program instead of blaming others or substituting one drug for another.

jbrownsjr 08-20-2021 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1268945)
We'll see her autobiography when we see her Rhiannon movie. Like never.

I seriously would love to see the Rhiannon movie!! It's been shoved in my face since the 80's.

vivfox 08-20-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1268949)
I seriously would love to see the Rhiannon movie!! It's been shoved in my face since the 80's.

And in my face since the 70's.

vivfox 08-20-2021 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1268947)
Many addicts switch to other drugs to keep the addiction going. That's exactly what Stevie did.

N/A teaches that alcohol is a drug also. She refused to stop drinking because she claimed it was never a problem for her. So you can't claim you have been clean for umpteen years when you simply stop using your drug of choice but substitute the high with other items. A few years back she told a reporter she was, "sober as a judge," onstage. Well you quit drinking but you still smoke pot. That makes you still a using addict. Facts.

HomerMcvie 08-20-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1268951)
And in my face since the 70's.

Yep. I swear I've got an article I cut out of People magazine in like 1978, where she was talking about it.

BigAl84 08-20-2021 11:53 AM

Her delivery blows. No pun intended. I'm not sure she meant to imply nobody helped her along the way, but because she's incapable of making a statement that isn't about me, me, and only me...it sure comes across the wrong way.

She makes me cringe every time she does an interview now. Every time.


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