Do we think there is even a small possibility of a final tour?
 

In many recent interviews, Mick and Lindsey have both been hinting at wanting a reunion.

But is that even possible at this point? First of all, there is a pandemic. Secondly, John and Christine are pushing 80. But The Rolling Stones are about to tour again and Mick is 78, Keith is 77, and Charlie is 80. Anyway though, It’s probably easier for John to just fake it on stage, but Christine has to actually sing. She looked great on the last tour, but she did not sound so great. She sounded pretty good in 2017 on her tour with Lindsey. And she sounded really good on the 2014-2015 tour. Third, Lindsey has an upcoming solo tour. Fourth, I’m sure Stevie will want to do at least one more solo tour too if the pandemic ever permits.

Anyway though, In my opinion, and I’m sure everyone will agree: they should not have fired Lindsey, and the 2018-2019 tour should have been their farewell tour.

But if they do happen to reunite with Lindsey, a reunion/farewell tour would surely be their marketing tactic for outrageous ticket prices.

I've said this for YEARS. I think there will be a final farewell tour. It will be short....maybe even shorter than the Mirage tour. It wont happen till maybe next summer at the earliest probably 2023. Stevie will pretend nothing happened.

I sure hope that they're DONE. I'd love to see another BuckVie, but Christine is getting too old to do it.

~I'm not the boss~ $tevie getting Lindsey fired was the end of the Rumours lineup. Those two should NEVER share the same stage again. The old goat ruined the ending of the band of my life. I hope karma gets her, HARD.

You know, they're not the Rolling Stones. They're a vocal band, and it's no secret that their voices are shot. The Eagles at least brought in Vince Gill and Deacon Frey, so at least they have two singers that aren't 100 years old.

They should just call it another lonely day...

No..and if there is then there shouldn't be.

I feel like the pandemic may kill any plans along with everything else you mention, notably the physical status of the McVie's.

The Stones are a different breed altogether. A Stones concert is a huge party. It's an event. They perfected the short tour thing that works for them at this age. Two shows per week. Stadiums only. Maybe 2-3 months in total. 14-16 total shows. When is Fleetwood Mac ever going to do something like that? Also, Mick's voice has held up better than any of the Mac 3 (although it's diminished as well at 78). Keith can have nights of disastrous performance, bum notes, a rambling mess of jacked up lyrics on Happy, and it still works. It's just part of what makes them work. The shows are just too different to anything the Mac would ever put on.

Also, despite some of the massive fights Keith and Mick have had, the stunt that Stevie pulled on Lindsey would never happen. Mick going on tour in 1988 and not even generating enough interest to tour the States pretty much guaranteed that he knew, despite being the face and voice of the band, he needed to tour as the Rolling Stones and with Keith if he planned to tap into the booming boomer market of classic rock tours.

Even if we don't lockdown again, it looks like Covid may be killing concerts again? Another year or two, and they'll definitely be done.

CAN FM sell out stadiums? I don't think they can. But they should be down with doing two shows a week, and taking what dough they can rake in(like they need it - and I'm not talking about idiot Mick).

I don't think FM can sell out stadiums. Not on their own anyway. Partnered with Eagles, maybe?

Mick needs the revenue from 8 nights a week - he has so little and spends so much. :laugh:

I'm positive FM would have to be the opener for the Eagles. Would they eat that humble pie?

HOW can Mick be so stupid? I mean, his pic must be in the dictionary under 'idiot'. The concept of "living within your means" doesn't exist in Mick's world.

^^How you feeling about Charlie?

That would be humble pie indeed if they had to open for the Eagles .The intact classic lineup of Fleetwood Mac opening for a cobbled together line up of their long ago rivals. I don't believe that it or any other tour of the Rumours five will happen however and that is for the best.

I think if you gave Mick a dose of truth serum, he's KICKING himself for listening to "I'm not the boss" Mediocre final tour followed by a global pandemic--there's the nail in the FM coffin and his GIANT $$$ Windfall.

BTW--reading Charlie is out of the Stones tour. Hope it's not serious.....but, he is 80????

"to further his recovery from an unspecified medical procedure". Hopefully it's just this tour, but at 80, how many more tours do you have in you?

I don’t want them to tour, again..they are too old and don’t need to.
But 3 mega concerts, in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles could help Micks purse and give artistic closure for the others.

It would be filmed and make more money, and hopefully shut Mick up.
For good.

I could see some scenario to make it an easy tour for these golden oldies. Maybe playing only a few shows but maybe a Las Vegas stint (2 weeks of shows) and a few other major city shows spaced further apart than normal. It also will be filmed and distributed for maximum profit. Farewell tour 2 aka Mick's retirement fund.

Yes, I could see something like this. And with just three cities, I think they COULD sell out stadiums.

Or maybe a TV special a la The Dance? That would allow for Covid protocols to be followed more easily, give Lindsey the control he likes (overdubs and pre-records) and limit Stevie's need to be on stage with him.

If FM wanted to do a stadium date, I believe the Rumours 5 would sell NY LA and CHI in a flash. Health permitting.

Overdubs and pre- records is now a must!

Sounds like he is recovering from whatever it was well enough but not enough to be cleared to tour. And at 80, with Covid out there, that makes sense. Just really glad to hear he is in good spirits and seemingly on the mend!

As for their tour, it almost sounds like he might even be able to join them at some point toward the end. I would be shocked if they don’t do something next year - 2022 will align with their 60th anniversary and Mick and Keith are going to want to recognize that somehow and make some coin off of it.

I agree. Even if it wasn’t portrayed as an opening act — they’d play first and it would technically come off that way. And that would be embarrassing. And I mean would they do something together? Some horrible mix of The Chain and Hotel California? I love both bands but just kill me if this nightmare ever even came close to truth.

Stevie having at least four of her men on stage at once. Good lord..

Exactly. You don't go out "on top" as an opening act.

Maybe Henley could come out and duet on Sara. You know, for their baby $he......ended.:rolleyes:

yes, if they were to do it, the only really functional way for them is a few big shows or just one mega show like Glastonbury. But if I recall they wanted ridiculously large money for that in the past and the festival said nah, thanks.

I know that Nicks has a long history of talking out of both sides of her mouth and endless contradictions ...but this time I believe her when she says that she will not share a stage with Lindsey again. There will no future tours with the Rumours five.

I pray that this is true. $he ruined the ending of the band. I hope $he's happy.

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I'd love another BuckVie album, even if they didn't tour it.

I don’t see it happening due to their Ages and covid. If all this went down 10 years earlier she would be back on stage with him.

They can sell out a stadium with the current lineup. They did stadiums in London and Dublin.

So you think he'd be welcomed back as the musical director then?

Fleetwood Mac Live in Zoom
 

"Is there even a small possibility?"

Does Stormy Stevie have a tendency to talk too much?
Does Manalishi Mick have a permanent hole in his wallet?
Does Lawsuit Lindsey have a yearning to salvage the band's narrative?
Are "Over Our Hill" John and Christine in their element on stage right regardless of the other members' antics?
Are "absolutely permanent members" Neil Finn and Mike Campbell dreaming it's over?

Yes, there is a small possibility of a final public reunion of some description.

But should there be one?

You and Mitzo should become best friends.

Homer, do you not think the Rumours 5 could sell out stadiums?

About health conditions, they could do show a la "The Dance", or "One Night Only", or a short tour in specific cities, it would be low risk for them.

But it's too late. The magic is not there any more, the bag is full of rocks again, and the voices are gone. I wouldn't pay an expensive ticket to watch them, I think I wouldn't go even if I win a free ticket. I don't want to hear those embarrasing voices, and if there are again those "silver springs" looks between S&L, that would be ridiculous and more embarrasing.

Like you? said, probably the MAJOR cities, but that's it. There's a huge difference in selling out an arena, and selling out a stadium.

Spot on. Every word. It has become ridiculous and embarrassing.

I was listening to my tape of the LA Forum (10/02/83) the other day, and I heard a couple of things I had forgotten about. It was an extremely Stevie-chatty show anyway, much more so even than usual. But during one of her overtalky moments, Lori said, “All right — shut up!” Stevie laughed. Then, right before “Gypsy,” Stevie was going on and on, and someone in the first row must have said, “Give me a break,” because Stevie got a little miffed and said, “Give you a break? If you would like to come up here, I’ll give you a break.”

I of course do not think there should be another concert, except to make happy all the mobs of people who seem to want one. I think there should be a creative project of some sort that involves some thinking. Why not, for example, have Fleetwood Mac record and produce the Rhiannon project? They could do it in suite form, like an old prog album, with instrumental patches. Thinking out loud here.

The ideal capstone to their career as a band would be another album, preferably a double with an eclectic blend of stuff both new and from vaults. A tour at this stage is pathetic. But of course all chances of albums were wiped away years ago.

I don't think a tour, or even a small number of megaconcerts, is going to happen. But I would like to see a TV special, one final concert to put an exclamation point on all these years. I'd love to see them broadcast a show live, and then release it on DVD or whatever media are used for this sort of thing these days.

All the tours since the 2003 tour (I’ve literally lost count) have been of a type, and another tour of the big venues would be a duplicate of a type, a replica of an iteration of a pattern of an imitation.
I guess the group just doesn’t have any interest at all in recording collectively under the Fleetwood Mac moniker. Of course the bummer is that the only vitality they have left as a band is in recording (which is not true of Stevie or Lindsey individually—both still give interesting concerts).

They should have called touring quits after the 2014-2015 reunion, when they all still sounded respectable and happy.

Christine and Lindsey can continue to do good work in the studio and I would love another BuckVie. But live shows would be cringeworthy….

Given Lindsey's reported reaction to the use of Rhiannon for their MusiCares walk-on and the ignominy that ensued, this could either be the most unlikely possibility of all or just the very thing to heal the wounds and get Her to dance.

Perhaps a Broadway show. "Triad: a Fleetwood Mac Musical with birds!"

never happen....even in their heyday, when everyone's voice was still mostly intact, anything recorded live was seriously sweetened in the studio with a million overdubs or straight-up re-records. Live, in the moment, broadcast now?? Not a chance.

I don’t think he knows any other way.

If Stevie agreed to his return, I don’t think it would be a welcoming. More a “grit her teeth and bear it.” (Which begs the question, why would she? Maybe for the legacy. The money. Because Mick talked her into it…)

She says she's boss in her solo tours but it's really Waddy. Yes she chooses the songs (Waddy also gets to offer songs) but Waddy's doing the live arrangements.

I'd say for the 2018 tour, Mike was the musical director. It's funny because the Lindsey songs including World Turning had the same arrangements like Lindsey did for the live shows (Mick with the rolling drums to start SHN, The guitar countoff for GYOW and Neil on the drumriser, Counting off for Monday Morning and World Turning)

As for Stevie agreeing to Lindsey returning, I don't think she cares about legacy. Because if you cared about the legacy of your band, you certainly wouldn't be performing two songs from Neil Finn that have nothing to do with your band's history unless you were doing it as a tribute to deceased. I let the Petty tribute fly but the song choice was really uninspired. Even Mike doesn't care for Free Fallin live (see his interview on the 2013 Heartbreaker Tour: "We're free from Free Fallin)

And they also should've wiped Lindsey's songs from the 2018 setlist. Sara, Over my Head, Sisters of the Moon, Crystal, Love in Store, and Angel could've been performed over some of the bland songs they did on the 2018 tour.