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David 02-24-2021 07:17 PM

LIVE DELUXE (1980) — Want a new preview?
 
They previewed The Chain from wherever already on Spotify and Apple Music.

Assuming they preview again, what are you hankering to hear next?

jmn3 02-24-2021 08:29 PM

Give me that clean version of an '82 Hold Me! I know it won't be all pretty and might have some rough spots, but I've been waiting for something better than a bootleg of that song live for decades!

jbrownsjr 02-25-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1264924)
Give me that clean version of an '82 Hold Me! I know it won't be all pretty and might have some rough spots, but I've been waiting for something better than a bootleg of that song live for decades!

Her solo tour version was so much better. I wonder which night they are going to use. I agree, I want to hear this. She really laid into the piano on this tune.

David 02-25-2021 01:46 PM

I voted What Makes You Think and Think About. Both are from my favorite month of Mac touring ever and would be immensely gratifying, suffusing my afternoons with a roseate hue and the redolent scent of tea tree and Lebanese cedar.

Andyleo 02-25-2021 11:57 PM

The running times for Hold Me and Gold Dust Woman are on iTunes, so pretty sure it'll be one of those, but I would much prefer Think About Me to be previewed next.

Macfan4life 02-26-2021 06:59 AM

For some reason everyone flames the Mobile, AL 1980 Think About Me saying it was mailed in.

Interesting to hear the Kansas City version but I assume it will be similiar.

Netter75 02-28-2021 01:55 PM

I voted for:

Brown Eyes: The song I'm waiting for the most, I love every bootleg of this song I've heard from both the 1982 tour and the 1987-1988 tour. I'm not sure what provoked them to play it on both tours (and NOT the Tusk tour, oddly) as I'm sure it was a bathroom break song at the time, but it sounds SUBLIME and I can't wait to hear a cleaned up version of it.

Hold Me: Same reasons as everyone else, I'm looking forward to hearing a cleaned up version of this one live. I know not everyone is a big fan of this rendition ("HOLLLLLLLD MEEE YEAUUUHHH") but I can hear a fun little rock song in the bootlegs and it'll be interesting to see if a remix of the vocals will do it good.

Think About Me: I've only ever heard one live performance of this song from the Tusk tour and I thought it sounded horrible, so my fingers are crossed that this one sounds better and we can get a good live version of this song!

jmn3 02-28-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Netter75 (Post 1265051)
I voted for:

Brown Eyes: The song I'm waiting for the most, I love every bootleg of this song I've heard from both the 1982 tour and the 1987-1988 tour. I'm not sure what provoked them to play it on both tours (and NOT the Tusk tour, oddly) as I'm sure it was a bathroom break song at the time, but it sounds SUBLIME and I can't wait to hear a cleaned up version of it.

Hold Me: Same reasons as everyone else, I'm looking forward to hearing a cleaned up version of this one live. I know not everyone is a big fan of this rendition ("HOLLLLLLLD MEEE YEAUUUHHH") but I can hear a fun little rock song in the bootlegs and it'll be interesting to see if a remix of the vocals will do it good.

Think About Me: I've only ever heard one live performance of this song from the Tusk tour and I thought it sounded horrible, so my fingers are crossed that this one sounds better and we can get a good live version of this song!


Brown Eyes definitely is an interesting setlist choice for a band not know for taking too many risks. Especially by 1982, the set had gotten pretty well established and pulling out Brown Eyes from the previous album had to be something out of left field.

I like the HOLD ME HOLD ME YEAHHHHH approach. It was rough and lacked a lot of the polish that the studio version had. But I’m okay with that - I hate how everything live became polished and increasingly an attempt at recreating the studio version of a song.

HomerMcvie 02-28-2021 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1265052)

I like the HOLD ME HOLD ME YEAHHHHH approach. It was rough and lacked a lot of the polish that the studio version had. But I’m okay with that - I hate how everything live became polished and increasingly an attempt at recreating the studio version of a song.

I LOVED Hold Me live. Now, realize that I'm 16, with the best tickets I'd ever had(5th row center), at the height of my fandom.....with Lindsey SCREAMING, "why don't you come on and a" Hold Me. The band of my life, screaming a song in my face!!! I was in heaven!

David 02-28-2021 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Netter75 (Post 1265051)
Brown Eyes: The song I'm waiting for the most, I love every bootleg of this song I've heard from both the 1982 tour and the 1987-1988 tour. I'm not sure what provoked them to play it on both tours (and NOT the Tusk tour, oddly) as I'm sure it was a bathroom break song at the time, but it sounds SUBLIME and I can't wait to hear a cleaned up version of it.

Fleetwood rehearsed it for the 1979 tour but never played it, I guess. Here is a 1979 rehearsal of it: https://gofile.io/d/TG18kg

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Think About Me: I've only ever heard one live performance of this song from the Tusk tour and I thought it sounded horrible, so my fingers are crossed that this one sounds better and we can get a good live version of this song!
Fleetwood rehearsed this too in 1979, but apparently never added it to the set until August 1980. Rehearsal here: https://gofile.io/d/TqIvbf

aleuzzi 02-28-2021 04:42 PM

Can’t wait to hear the version of Think About Me. I’ve always loved the tour rehearsal of it, and I’m one of the few who actually love the one available live version. But I suspect this unearthed version will have a stronger vocal.

HomerMcvie 02-28-2021 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1265057)
Can’t wait to hear the version of Think About Me. I’ve always loved the tour rehearsal of it, and I’m one of the few who actually love the one available live version. But I suspect this unearthed version will have a stronger vocal.

I saved both to my hard drive. TAM has a false start, where they play for maybe 30 seconds, then restart the song.

Netter75 02-28-2021 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1265054)
Fleetwood rehearsed it for the 1979 tour but never played it, I guess. Here is a 1979 rehearsal of it: https://gofile.io/d/TG18kg


Fleetwood rehearsed this too in 1979, but apparently never added it to the set until August 1980. Rehearsal here: https://gofile.io/d/TqIvbf

Nice! Thanks for sharing, I hadn't heard these before.

David 03-01-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1265058)
I saved both to my hard drive. TAM has a false start, where they play for maybe 30 seconds, then restart the song.

That’s the first night (Aug 31) at the Hollywood Bowl. But there is actually another — Mobile AL soundboard. Have you guys heard that one too?

HomerMcvie 03-01-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1265075)
That’s the first night (Aug 31) at the Hollywood Bowl. But there is actually another — Mobile AL soundboard. Have you guys heard that one too?

No.
I wasn't lucky enough to be their lighting guy...:p

David 03-01-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1265076)
No.
I wasn't lucky enough to be their lighting guy...:p

I am just a fan!

Here is Think About Me from Mobile AL Aug 11. People say Think About Me was loosie goosie in August and it was, but it was also an energetic instrumental rave-up. It also captures the band’s vocal recklessness at that point in the long tour.

https://gofile.io/d/sW2wnC

Ulpian 03-05-2021 12:17 PM

I see they’ve put GDW up now as the next sample track... quite a nice version I thought although Stevie gets the lyrics wrong to start.

David 03-05-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 1265244)
I see they’ve put GDW up now as the next sample track... quite a nice version I thought although Stevie gets the lyrics wrong to start.

Thanks for the alert, Mark! Great gritty vocal by Stevie and nice clear sound with a good bottom end. (It’s important that Stevie have a great bottom end.)

Does anyone have the 8.29.77 audience recording handy (recorded by Steve Denison) to verify the date and locale of the label? Plus, this cut seems to have the normal outro shortened somewhat (with Christine’s pianet soaked in flanger). Was that the performance or an album edit?

mylittledemon 03-05-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1264920)
They previewed The Chain from wherever already on Spotify and Apple Music.

You know, after listening to it... I'm almost positive it's from the Mirage tour, not from 1980.

jmn3 03-05-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 1265251)
You know, after listening to it... I'm almost positive it's from the Mirage tour, not from 1980.

Oh for sure, we talked about this on the other thread for the Deluxe release. It’s from the other night at The Forum from the Mirage Video. Lindsey’s guitar and the vocals are a dead giveaway. We have a great version of The Chain on the Tusk deluxe from 1980 so I am pretty happy to get a cleaned up 1982 version!

mylittledemon 03-05-2021 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1265256)
It’s from the other night at The Forum from the Mirage Video.

Haha, oh I'm always late to the party. Looks like they got the date wrong on Spotify (but I'm guessing that's WBs fault). :laugh:

jbrownsjr 03-09-2021 08:28 AM

Listened to the new "GDW Live" release in NY on the subway, Sunday. What a wonderful version. I love the keys, especially in the beginning.

jmn3 03-09-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1265297)
Listened to the new "GDW Live" release in NY on the subway, Sunday. What a wonderful version. I love the keys, especially in the beginning.

I thought that beginning was just sublime. Chris’s playing really set the mood for the song. It was a real treat to hear!

jmn3 03-09-2021 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 1265260)
Haha, oh I'm always late to the party. Looks like they got the date wrong on Spotify (but I'm guessing that's WBs fault). :laugh:

No worries! I’m sure for 99.9% of people who listen to that will just go along with it being from 1980 with no questions. But keen ears around these parts would pick up on it immediately! It’s wrong on Apple Music too so I’m blaming WB as well.

jbrownsjr 03-09-2021 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1265299)
I thought that beginning was just sublime. Chris’s playing really set the mood for the song. It was a real treat to hear!

I really love the sounds she uses.

mylittledemon 03-09-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1265300)
No worries! I’m sure for 99.9% of people who listen to that will just go along with it being from 1980 with no questions.

Isn't that some form of heresy? :laugh:

jbrownsjr 03-10-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 1265320)
Isn't that some form of heresy? :laugh:

The word is blasphemy!! :laugh:

mylittledemon 03-11-2021 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1265335)
The word is blasphemy!! :laugh:

https://i.imgur.com/y1fmA5G.gif

:lol:

jbrownsjr 03-11-2021 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 1265348)

What's great is that you can't fool The Ledge. We know Mirage live sounds when we hear them.

vivfox 03-11-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 1265244)
GDW Stevie gets the lyrics wrong to start.

:lol:
True dat

David 03-11-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1265359)
:lol:
True dat

Stevie gets so wrapped up in the moment that she can’t remember the wrap she’s wearing at the moment.

snroxman 03-14-2021 10:09 AM

re:What's great is that you can't fool The Ledge. We know Mirage live sounds when we hear them.

Yep!!!!

"Hold Me" as it was performed in 1982 is GOLD.

Ulpian 04-02-2021 01:41 AM

Hold Me is up!

I like it :blob1::blob1::blob1:

Wdm6789 04-02-2021 04:51 AM

Hold Me sounds great!

I always complain about this, but I really hate the added “yeahhh”

They could have just sang “hold me... hold meeEEEE” the “yeahhhh” is totally unnecessary.

blinker12 04-02-2021 07:29 AM

Great energy in this version and Christine hits the high harmonies well! Best live “Hold Me” I’ve heard.

aleuzzi 04-02-2021 07:57 AM

That’s a really strong version. I’m hoping TAM turns out as good!

jbrownsjr 04-02-2021 09:12 AM

Wow, BuckVie perfection! What a nice solo at the end. I wish he would have extended that solo another 30 seconds. Great piano as well. :blob2:

jmn3 04-04-2021 09:15 AM

Hold Me is fantastic! So happy to finally get a cleaned up live version of one of my favorite Mac songs.

I think the yeahhhhh's work on this song. One of the chief complaints I see on this board about the post-1982 live sound of this band is the band's insistence on sticking to studio arrangements, or as close to as possible. To me, that's what makes this one stick out - who knows what the reason was. Maybe they tried it and couldn't make it sound right with just the three voices. I know Chris did the drawn out meeee's on her solo tour and the 2017-19 versions did the same, but maybe it just didn't sound right in rehearsals with just the three of them. Either way, this is what I love about the old Mac. Each tour had a unique sound, and so many songs had unique arrangements that not only differed from their studio parent, but also in many cases from prior tours.

How did Hold Me go into hiding for so long? I don't understand how it didn't get played on the 1987-88 tour in particular, not to mention during The Dance or On With the Show tours.

Also, I just love Lindsey's love for this song before and after... and something about Chris's "thanks LB" at the very beginning just put a smile on my face.

jmn3 04-04-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1265972)
Wow, BuckVie perfection! What a nice solo at the end. I wish he would have extended that solo another 30 seconds. Great piano as well. :blob2:

If it was the Tusk Tour that solo would have gone on another minute for sure! It seems like a lot of solos or would-be solos were starting to get shrunk down in length just a tad on Mirage as they were adding more songs to the set.

UnwindedDreams 04-04-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1266052)
How did Hold Me go into hiding for so long? I don't understand how it didn't get played on the 1987-88 tour in particular, not to mention during The Dance or On With the Show tours.

For Dance and OWTS, I thought it was either Lindsey wasn't up to shredding to close the song OR the song kind of isolates Stevie. With Don't Stop and World Turning, all three sing the last verses.
When Chris did Hold Me in 2018, I think it was done to show that she and Neil had a musical fellowship. She coulda said I wrote this with Neil in 1982 that's how cute they were!


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