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BLY 10-18-2020 06:46 PM

What did you think of the Buck/McVie album?
 
This is the question I want them to ask Stevie.😎

bwboy 10-18-2020 08:02 PM

I don't think most interviewers even remember the BuckVie album. The bigger topics seem to be her concert film, her new song, the recent FM tour, and if she's spoken to Lindsey.

BLY 10-18-2020 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1261234)
I don't think most interviewers even remember the BuckVie album. The bigger topics seem to be her concert film, her new song, the recent FM tour, and if she's spoken to Lindsey.

Yes but anybody that has a clue of this band and a fan would ask this question.

UnwindedDreams 10-18-2020 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1261229)
This is the question I want them to ask Stevie.��

I feel for you because you're opening yourself up to the dagger swingers who express Lindsey as an unsuccessful musician that f****d everything up in life. Though, he's in multiple recent interviews she gives.

She was asked about it in 2017. She said she's been on the road since September 2016 so she didn't understand Chris and Lindsey's premise but she wishes them luck.

BLY 10-18-2020 08:23 PM

She was asked about it in 2017. She said she's been on the road since September 2016 so she didn't understand Chris and Lindsey's premise but she wishes them luck.[/QUOTE]


Yes, I remember this response. My question would be... “Do you regret not participating in the album that became Buck/McVie that was really a Fleetwood Mac album if only you added some vocals to some great songs and gave the band 3 of your songs?”

UnwindedDreams 10-18-2020 08:24 PM

Liz Rosenberg or Karen would've jumped on the call and said "That's it for today. Thank you!"
:thumbsup:

HomerMcvie 10-18-2020 09:07 PM

It was a fantastic swan song for the band of my life.

To me, it really felt like Mirage, part II. A happy, poppy FM record.

And best of all, the old goat opted out. Goat free at last! Goat free at last!

Dragon 10-19-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1261229)
This is the question I want them to ask Stevie.😎

A similar question to ask Christine is "What did you think of Say You Will and Extended Play?"

The answer comes back to both albums and extended play starting out as Lindsey's solo projects that became Fleetwood Mac and related releases. Stevie's songs on Say You Will, at least "Running through the Garden" and "Smile at You", could have been better.

BLY 10-19-2020 12:21 PM

[QUOTE=Dragon;1261263]A similar question to ask Christine is "What did you think of Say You Will and Extended Play?"


No, Christine would have recorded Say You Will but the band didn’t want her to because she wasn’t going to tour behind it.

Netter75 10-19-2020 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon (Post 1261263)
A similar question to ask Christine is "What did you think of Say You Will and Extended Play?"

The answer comes back to both albums and extended play starting out as Lindsey's solo projects that became Fleetwood Mac and related releases. Stevie's songs on Say You Will, at least "Running through the Garden" and "Smile at You", could have been better.

Agreed on your broader point, but I'll always support Running Through the Garden. I love how the lyrics are basically Stevie is acknowledging that she's toxic and people should probably avoid her. It's uncharacteristically self-aware of her, especially since it was written in the middle of her coked-out party phase.

BombaySapphire3 10-19-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Netter75 (Post 1261266)
Agreed on your broader point, but I'll always support Running Through the Garden. I love how the lyrics are basically Stevie is acknowledging that she's toxic and people should probably avoid her. It's uncharacteristically self-aware of her, especially since it was written in the middle of her coked-out party phase.

Actually I think that she was more self aware during her coked out years than she is now.

Feather Blade 10-19-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1261235)
Yes but anybody that has a clue of this band and a fan would ask this question.

I have a clue and am a fan of this band and I'm not sure I remember it. I tried to get into it but for the most part I found it fairly forgettable. I think if I hadn't felt Christine was so under used on the Lindsey songs it might have resonated more with me.

Feather Blade 10-19-2020 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Netter75 (Post 1261266)
Agreed on your broader point, but I'll always support Running Through the Garden. I love how the lyrics are basically Stevie is acknowledging that she's toxic and people should probably avoid her. It's uncharacteristically self-aware of her, especially since it was written in the middle of her coked-out party phase.

Isn't the song supposed to be about the Hawthorne story Rappaccini's Daughter?

Netter75 10-19-2020 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1261283)
Isn't the song supposed to be about the Hawthorne story Rappaccini's Daughter?

It definitely is, but I would have a lot of trouble believing that Stevie wasn't projecting herself onto the main character when she wrote the song.

Kinda the same deal Mabel Normand. She's really talking about herself.

michelej1 10-20-2020 01:34 PM

Christine did remark on SYW, but not in a detailed manner that would actually interest anyone.

David 10-21-2020 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1261310)
Christine did remark on SYW, but not in a detailed manner that would actually interest anyone.

“It was rubbish. There were only three chords, but they were the right three chords.”

Macfan4life 10-21-2020 06:56 AM

Stevie has never praised or commented on her fellow Mac member's solo careers. However it irked her that they did not praise her for her solo efforts. She did get asked directly about Christine's solo effort in 1985 (MTV interview) and she did not comment on the music most likely because she never played it. She just said she was happy that Christine did it.
Remember the MTV Fanatic interview (1998)when Stevie was asked her favorite Lindsey song? She could not even name one of his songs. The poor girl had to throw Stevie a life line.
The Buck/Vie album definitely irked her. Its the one time that the Mac did something without her blessing.

David 10-21-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1261339)
The Buck/Vie album definitely irked her. Its the one time that the Mac did something without her blessing.

I believe there’s a direct line between that album and the band coup. All that other stuff — East Classic and MusicCares and smirking and waltzing and solo tour scheduling — is all just stuff.

StevieandChris 10-21-2020 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1261376)
I believe there’s a direct line between that album and the band coup. All that other stuff — East Classic and MusicCares and smirking and waltzing and solo tour scheduling — is all just stuff.

And add to that all of the previous years of contention between all five. Nothing happens in a vacuum, and the problems didn't start with Buck/McVie. It was hardly paradise before that duo.

michelej1 10-21-2020 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1261401)
And add to that all of the previous years of contention between all five. Nothing happens in a vacuum, and the problems didn't start with Buck/McVie. It was hardly paradise before that duo.

There hasn't been contention among all 5 in almost 30 years. The acrimony precipitating Stevie's power grab was between two people, not 5.

Jondalar 10-21-2020 11:44 PM

I listen to it more than SYW. Christine still has a voice.

HomerMcvie 10-22-2020 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1261405)
There hasn't been contention among all 5 in almost 30 years. The acrimony precipitating Stevie's power grab was between two people, not 5.

Two of said 5 stood by and witnessed a murder, without doing anything. They might as well have pulled the trigger themselves.

michelej1 10-22-2020 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1261414)
Two of said 5 stood by and witnessed a murder, without doing anything. They might as well have pulled the trigger themselves.

Phil Collins saw it happen.

I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh Lord
And I've been waiting for this moment for all my life, oh Lord
Can you feel it coming in the air tonight? Oh Lord, oh Lord

StevieandChris 10-22-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1261405)
There hasn't been contention among all 5 in almost 30 years. The acrimony precipitating Stevie's power grab was between two people, not 5.

I am thinking back to the recording of Say You Will. Maybe not all five, but the ones you expect...Stevie, Lindsey, Mick.

It did not just start with the Buck McVie album.

michelej1 10-22-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1261445)
I am thinking back to the recording of Say You Will. Maybe not all five, but the ones you expect...Stevie, Lindsey, Mick.

It did not just start with the Buck McVie album.

Mick wasn’t arguing with them. He was trying to negotiate a compromise between Stevie and Lindsey.

jbrownsjr 10-22-2020 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1261235)
Yes but anybody that has a clue of this band and a fan would ask this question.

Well stated!

sue 10-23-2020 03:31 AM

IMO...two things changed the course of history...for the band.
1) Christine’s return.
2) the Buckvie album.

I think without Christine’s return the remaining four would have still been together. (Lindsey enjoyed Christine being back, they had a musical connection)
much to Stevie’s annoyance..
And the Album just compounded Stevie’s simmering anger.
Who knows how long it had been on the back boiler!!

HomerMcvie 10-23-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1261473)
And the Album just compounded Stevie’s simmering anger.
Who knows how long it had been on the back boiler!!

My guess would be roughly 42-43 years. $he holds a grudge like nobody's business.

jbrownsjr 10-23-2020 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1261477)
My guess would be roughly 42-43 years. $he holds a grudge like nobody's business.

I have a BuckVie shrine. :laugh:

HomerMcvie 10-23-2020 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1261480)
I have a BuckVie shrine. :laugh:

I don't, BUT I have one of the Buck Vie record store thick plastic thingamabobs(I can't remember what they're called)
that they put in the lighted case to showcase a new album. Probably 30"x30". I've meant to build a lighted box for it since I got it, but have never gotten around to building it.

I stalked this record store guy for about a week, until he was finally willing to let it go. $5! Bidding starts at $500!

I was mad at spineless Christine for allowing him to get fired, so that's part of the reason I never got around to building the showcase for it.

secondhandchain 10-24-2020 06:59 PM

Stevie gave LB a backhanded compliment about Seeds We sow. Said something like "he took a melody pill". She only gave this compliment because they had listened to both albums during the recording of Soldiers Angel, and he was complimenting her on In Your Dreams. But of course she has to give a dig. She did say she loved it.


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