The narcissism continues
 

There is already a thread about this in the Stevie forum

Time to pack those boots up anyway and work on some other projects. The world doesn't need another greatest hit tour or to hear Stand Back one more time and especially don't need to hear the currently configuration of FM. If you haven't seen her/them yet, then stay home and watch the video. Not being mean just addressing reality that the best years are way behind her.

Exactly ..now is the time for all of them to retire from touring forever.

They really do need to retire. They're just too old to do it properly anymore, and their voices are gone. Relying on backup singers to do your show is just lame. They've become a farce.

you know, personally and as you are all well aware i really could care less for Nicks or her airy fairy thoughts - but i think in her own way she is doing a good thing here with her PSA efforts. every little bit can help.

No more touring, Christine looks like Weekend at Bernies on stage. She cant play or sing anymore. It's not the same without LB. The thought of hearing a nasal uninspired Rhiannon for the 100th time is not appealing. She ruined the band by getting rid of LB and i have zero interest in seeing them at this age WITHOUT LB.

The only thing I want at this point is the Lindsey solo album thats in the can and that's it. Stevie doesn't take ANY chances anymore. NONE. Lindsey is the only one left in the band with an ounce of artistic credibility. And before you say Ii'm a Lindsey fanatic and a Stevie hater....you're wrong. I was a huge SN fan until she eroded that fandom over the last few years. She's GROSS now.

I agree that LindSEY was the only gift they had left. His energy was great, even if his voice wasn't. And yet the old goat fired him. I actually think his intense energy onstage was a part of the reason. He was outshining her by far, and $he couldn't stand it.

I was always a Christine fan, until she had her spine removed. Kept Bob Welch out of the R&RHOF(which I did my best to get over), and then didn't stand up for LindSEY(which was the last straw- she's just an old company shill - my lifetime heroine, now not much better than $tevie).

$tevie's just a joke now, but $he and Dick will milk this until one of them dies. I'll bet even if John and Chris died, $tevie and Dick would keep on keepin' on.

Really? A PSA from Stevie Nicks? God help us. Don't do cocaine, don't drink, don't take pills, don't sleep with someone's husband, don't get your "best friend" fired, oh and please wear a mask.

Right?

$he was the poster child for "how to do everything wrong in life without dying".

$he's such a visionary.

Crystal visions? That's coke dust on your glasses!:lol:

long lines of white cloud my memory

I fondly remember...:angel::angel::angel:

it's not a PSA for you. it's a PSA for her fans a good number of whom blindly drink up every word she utters, so maybe some of them will follow her advice here too.

You mean the folks that believe she and Lindsey are still in love and if Stevie hadn't got him fired after the BuckVie tour, he'd be single and free?

Ok Elle, I'll buy it. :xoxo: Meaning you're right, those people believe anything she says.

I think she means well, it just always has to come back around to her somehow. Everything has a narcisstic slant to it.

$he's always MEANT well. $he can't help it that $he's a narcissistic idiot.

So she meant well when she plotted,schemed and engineered Lindsey's firing from Fleetwood Mac:shrug:It seems to me that the deed was done with diabolical intent.

One of the most narcissistic things she has ever said was the Greenpeace speech at the end of the Farewell Tour 1990. She told fans to get involved and "do it for me." My local paper had a fit about that statement and accused her of talking like a narcistic and arrogant queen. Do it for me? Really.
I wish I could find the concert review that appeared in the Pittsburgh Press in November 1990.

Touche!

I mean back in the day before $he turned evil.

As many have said, her mother probably kept her somewhat grounded. Once she died, $he became completely self absorbed.

I’m sure there’s nothing on the table for anyone right now. They couldn’t insure that tour during the pandemic. That said, I’d love a new album from the band.

She had a couple of great solos on the last tour. Her voice is shot, but the same is true of Lindsey and Stevie. I’d rather have Christine with a shot voice than no Christine. They sound old because they are old.

I believe that was the point. They wanted something different.

Okay, but it hasn’t been inspiring since like 1982. With or without Lindsey.

She sang a Peter Green song and turned one of Christine’s “Time” songs into a duet on the last tour.

Which is why they got Neil Finn and Mike Campbell.

I may have that. I'll look for it.

Christine's piano intro on the Dance DVD is inspiring.

It’s a carryover from Stevie’s solo version.

Really, “Rhiannon” got neutered in the mid ‘80s and “The Chain” got neutered on The Dance. Those were the two most explosive songs. They’ve been bland for decades, now.

except when Lindsey performs them with other bands and not the neuterers. just watch 2 different versions of the Chain he has done with Little Big Time - acoustic backstage version and then on stage version too. now those are what you would call explosive! he needs someone way better and more inspiring than the competitive jealous neutering band FM had become decades ago.

Really? That was just as bland. Look at any of the ‘77-‘82 versions of “The Chain” and tell me with a straight face that remotely compares. There’s no slight buildup during the bass solo and it just abruptly ends without the explosive solo at the end. It was every bit as neutered.

Too bad Stevie is not taking this time to record. The last thing she needs is to try another solo tour of oldies. Make another album, girl, keep your fans alive and firm up your legacy. It took just a few weeks to put together 24KG, do that again.

I do realize that. However, even though it's not explosive; Christine plays a beautiful piano. Silver Springs was gorgeous and somewhat explosive on that tour. You're right though, I wouldn't compare that to 1982 which was electrifying. That (Dance) was the beginning of "watered down versions" especially of Stevie's songs. I did enjoy NTF on the Dance tour.

:laugh:

it's hard to take seriously opinion on blandness from someone who willingly exposed themselves over and over to the backstabbers tour 2018 and that horrible non-listenable version of The Chain.

that was not my point and you know it. because some people believe anything she says, she did a good thing with her messaging here. :nod:

She SHOULD have ended that speech with, "If not for me then do it for the world." It would have been perfect.

nah it started long before The Dance (1997)

Ive been listening again recently to her Bella Donna tour concert (1981) and was reminded how much Rhiannon even then had already become very tame and middle-aged. No spark at all; all canned. Yes, I know that wasn't FM, but it's her song and she could have done it anyway she wished without the burden of FM, and she went with a watered down version that really isn't that different to The Dance version. Things spiced up a bit as the coke habit grew more intense, but she had already lost her ability to do Rhiannon as originally done (without mountains of coke) by the early 80s. Even Dreams had grown lame by then too.

Stevie in her twenties was the most charismatic American rock star since Jim Morrison ..had he lived to his thirties he couldn't have kept it up either.

So, you’re saying the LBT version isn’t neutered/watered down compared to the ‘77-‘82 versions? I think you’re alone on that.

cute Steve, cute. #WhatAboutism

i'm pointing out that the 2 LB/LBT versions of the Chain - backstage acoustic and then live one - are fantastic.

as a response to that you keep saying but but but but but....... there are different wilder better versions out there, by the classic Mac themselves, when they were young, high and free from any scripts. nobody is arguing that or trying to compare all those versions but you. and you are doing that because you cannot argue that LB/LBT version is not fantastic. :)

I just think the band really went wild with it in 1982. And she was definitely completely insane and amazing for that whole show. IMO. Gypsy is the clunker, but it always is.

The live versions of all songs were changed during the Dance era. I would not call it "watering" down although I can see why someone would say that. Fleetwood Mac like bands in the late 90s used technology that helped them create a live sound much more similar to the album versions. Stevie's Stop Draggin My Heart Around in 2017 had very little rock edge compared to her early 80's versions. Over My Head used to rock in the 70s when they played it. When the Mac started playing it again in the late 90s, that arena rock sound was gone and we got something similar to the album version.

I have always said I loved arena rock and 1990 was the last of it with the Mac as well as other bands. I much prefer the raw rocking sound compared to the tame technology based sound.

$he took monotony to a new level. So bland.

I love the Live album version of OMH. That "drop D" guitar intro is f*cking awesome!

I hate it that bands decided they had to sound exactly like the albums. Adding an orchestra of players/playing with tracks.
Mirage was the last time they were even close to being an actual BAND.

Both of those versions were fabulous. The LBT collaboration also couldn't be as long bc of television but it was electric! They blended one of LBT's songs with The Chain. The crowd went wild and LBT was clearly thrilled to be performing with Lindsey.
I hate how The Chain was played on the Evening with Fleetwood Mac In Concert Tour. I saw 3 shows.
Mike's solo sounded like a high school battle of the bands. Also Neil had no captivating stage activity. He jumped around. So does Nils Lofgren. He got up on Mick's drum platform which was a copy of Lindsey, except he didn't play the cymbals. Maybe Neil didn't crank it up bc they're not his songs.
When I saw them do his song I Got You, he did this weird tag game with Stevie and I couldn't wait for the song to end.

Some folks on this platform think they're the be all and end all of everything FM. Send in your application to Stubner and sheryl louis already, right?

yeah on other forums i saw a number of posts from Neil Finn fans who hated his turn with FM, felt he was muzzled and not anything like what they love about him live, and they couldn't wait for him to go on the road on his own terms. i was looking forward to I Got You and like you said, it was totally butchered. Neil's turn with Mac definitely soured CH and SE for a good number of people. hope the money and a few more people hearing his name was worth it to him.

haha re some folks offering themselves up for jobs in mac PR. i had the same thought reading some of those posts, especially when someone is twisting themselves into pretzels and throwing away any shreds of credibility trying to prove something they cannot really believe to be true.