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elle 12-08-2018 12:44 PM

CBS interview w LB - FM settled
 




other than the interview, LB performed 3 songs - Turn It On, Big Love and [online only] Treason.


the whole interview and all 3 songs are on youtube (links above for some of it).

HomerMcvie 12-08-2018 12:59 PM

It sounds like he's open to going back again.

That disappoints the f*ck out of me.

elle 12-08-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1245254)
It sounds like he's open to going back again.

That disappoints the f*ck out of me.

same. and i told him that at my m&g.

not dissapointed though that he's way bigger person than the rest of us, but that if Mick and Stevie come to him with their tails between their legs, he will relent and go back to that time wasting nostalgia outfit. i mean i know they are all lifelong dysfunctional family and share so much. and i'm actually encoraged with this interview, because what he was telling us at m&gs sounded even more open to the reunion.

jeets2000 12-08-2018 01:15 PM

Best part about all of this, to me, is hearing Chris reached out after the settlement was finalized.

HomerMcvie 12-08-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1245256)
same. and i told him that at my m&g.

not dissapointed though that he's way bigger person than the rest of us, but that if Mick and Stevie come to him with their tails between their legs, he will relent and go back to that time wasting nostalgia outfit. i mean i know they are all lifelong dysfunctional family and share so much. and i'm actually encoraged with this interview, because what he was telling us at m&gs sounded even more open to the reunion.

Well, I'm sure that the toughest thing is - the only way to be a BIG rock star....to play in front of 20K people, is to put your tail between your legs, and go back.

So I guess it all boils down to how important that is to him. How much he enjoys the fame and big bucks of the big machine.

elle 12-08-2018 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1245260)
Well, I'm sure that the toughest thing is - the only way to be a BIG rock star....to play in front of 20K people, is to put your tail between your legs, and go back.

So I guess it all boils down to how important that is to him. How much he enjoys the fame and big bucks of the big machine.

you are missing the family part. and i think he got some big bucks in that settlement although he probably could have gotten even bigger, but that's just my pure speculation.

while i'm sure he loves the adulation and big audiences and he may miss that eventually, him almost crying when talking about going home? that's more it for him i think. but i hope he can reconcile with them privately without going back to the band and endless oldies tours which at this point would be just a waste of his time.

Jondalar 12-08-2018 02:02 PM

This interview just makes he hate Stevie. What a bitchhhhhhhhh!

elle 12-08-2018 02:08 PM

Rolling Stone article
 
basically summary of the CBS interview, like what they also did in April when the "new band" sat down with CBS. all links to CBS videos of the whole interview are if you click at the article link too.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...lement-766573/

Fleetwood Mac, Lindsey Buckingham Settle Lawsuit Over Dismissal From Band
“I’m happy enough with it. I’m not out there trying to twist the knife at all,” guitarist tells CBS This Morning of settlement

By DANIEL KREPS

Lindsey Buckingham revealed in a new interview that he has settled his lawsuit against his former Fleetwood Mac bandmates.

Following Buckingham’s surprise firing from Fleetwood Mac in January, the guitarist filed a lawsuit against the band in October, alleging breach of fiduciary duty and breach of oral contract, among other charges.

“Fleetwood Mac strongly disputes the allegations presented in Mr. Buckingham’s complaint and looks forward to their day in court,” a rep for the band told Rolling Stone in October.

However, in an interview with CBS This Morning that aired Saturday – the guitarist’s first television interview since his dismissal – Buckingham said that the lawsuit was quietly settled a couple weeks ago.

“We’ve all signed off on something,” Buckingham said of the settlement. “I’m happy enough with it. I’m not out there trying to twist the knife at all. I’m trying to look at this with some level of compassion, some level of wisdom.”

Buckingham did not elaborate on the terms of the settlement. Buckingham declined to comment to Rolling Stone. A rep for Fleetwood Mac did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

During the CBS This Morning interview, Buckingham talked about the “visceral” feeling of being dismissed from the band – reportedly at the behest of Stevie Nicks – and said that, since his firing, he hasn’t spoken to any of his former bandmates except for Christine McVie, who reached out to Buckingham recently.

“I have had, only in the last couple of weeks, I have gotten an email, which I expected to get, from Christine McVie,” Buckingham said; the two released their Buckingham/McVie album in 2017. “She wrote me an email and basically said, ‘Dearest Lindsey, just know that I had nothing to do with any of this. Know that I miss you so much.’ She said, ‘I believe deep in Stevie’s heart that she would like you to come home.'”

Despite Fleetwood Mac’s ongoing and never-ending drama, Buckingham said he would be open to reuniting with his former bandmates in some capacity, if the timing’s right. However, his dismissal has a sense of finality to it, he said.

“I’m pretty much figuring that I won’t because a lot of people who know how convoluted Fleetwood Mac’s politics have been will say two years from now they’re gonna… and I’m like, ‘I’m not so sure.’ You know, it’s something is a little different this time,” Buckingham told CBS This Morning.

In addition to the interview, Buckingham performed three songs – “Treason,” “Big Love” and “Turn It On” – as part of the show’s Saturday Sessions:



In This Article: Fleetwood Mac, Lindsey Buckingham

HomerMcvie 12-08-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1245267)
This interview just makes he hate Stevie. What a bitchhhhhhhhh!

I hope $he's able to look in the mirror, somewhat, and see how insufferable $he's become.

I mean, $he won't, because her enablers are still telling her how great her poo smells.

HOW could Lindsey go back to THAT? If he does, there better not be any of the fake holding hands and all that crap!:mad:

Macfan4life 12-08-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeets2000 (Post 1245259)
Best part about all of this, to me, is hearing Chris reached out after the settlement was finalized.

I had the opposite reaction. It made my opinion of Christine drop. She stayed silent the entire time and claimed to be in London when the coup happened. She could have stopped it. Instead she was passive while even John and her looked at $$$$$ instead of the legacy of the band. Chris and John let Stevie control Mick. For her to reach out to him after settlement seems like a nice gesture and I am sure Lindsey appreciates it. But its a little too late IMHO. For Chris to say what she said about her and possibly even Stevie missing him really tells you the buyer's remorse they have. I think it finally sunk in what they did to themselves. No band member should have that much power. Lindsey states he has no idea why Stevie acted the way that she did but felt she was looking for reasons. IMHO it was clearly the Buckingham/McVie project where the rest of the band went on and recorded without her. It was a jealous rage the same kind when Stevie found out Lindsey and Chris wrote World Turning together. I think Chris and Stevie realize the cover band version of themselves they have become.

FuzzyPlum 12-08-2018 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1245270)
I had the opposite reaction. It made my opinion of Christine drop. She stayed silent the entire time and claimed to be in London when the coup happened. She could have stopped it. Instead she was passive while even John and her looked at $$$$$ instead of the legacy of the band. Chris and John let Stevie control Mick. For her to reach out to him after settlement seems like a nice gesture and I am sure Lindsey appreciates it. But its a little too late IMHO. For Chris to say what she said about her and possibly even Stevie missing him really tells you the buyer's remorse they have. I think it finally sunk in what they did to themselves. No band member should have that much power. Lindsey states he has no idea why Stevie acted the way that she did but felt she was looking for reasons. IMHO it was clearly the Buckingham/McVie project where the rest of the band went on and recorded without her. It was a jealous rage the same kind when Stevie found out Lindsey and Chris wrote World Turning together. I think Chris and Stevie realize the cover band version of themselves they have become.


I second this. It makes me so sad. Yes, its good to hear she had no say and didn't agree, but why the f**k didn't she make a stand and say 'No! this isn't right. This isn't going to happen Stevie'???
If as it seems this really was all about his smirking (or really just a power thing based on years of animosity) and not related to a particular argument that occurred at Musicares, then Chris and the rest of the band should have had the moral compass to stand up for what was right. Instead they bowed to the Sith Lord.

Jondalar 12-08-2018 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1245270)
I had the opposite reaction. It made my opinion of Christine drop. She stayed silent the entire time and claimed to be in London when the coup happened. She could have stopped it. Instead she was passive while even John and her looked at $$$$$ instead of the legacy of the band. Chris and John let Stevie control Mick. For her to reach out to him after settlement seems like a nice gesture and I am sure Lindsey appreciates it. But its a little too late IMHO. For Chris to say what she said about her and possibly even Stevie missing him really tells you the buyer's remorse they have. I think it finally sunk in what they did to themselves. No band member should have that much power. Lindsey states he has no idea why Stevie acted the way that she did but felt she was looking for reasons. IMHO it was clearly the Buckingham/McVie project where the rest of the band went on and recorded without her. It was a jealous rage the same kind when Stevie found out Lindsey and Chris wrote World Turning together. I think Chris and Stevie realize the cover band version of themselves they have become.

Chris is 75 years old and she just got back in the band. She probably feels powerless or like she doesn’t have the right to tell anyone anything. How can she bitch about Mick or Stevie when she was one the reasons Fleetwood Mac never got another group album with all five of them? She knows she is lucky they let her back in the band.

The Catdancer 12-08-2018 02:46 PM

If he does go back it will be to preserve the legacy of the band. That is really important to him.

He's a better person than I am. I would have said "NO WAY" to a reunion. He's very forgiving.

And of course Stevie wants him back. She sees that the tour isn't selling as well as it would have if Lindsey would have been there. She knows there's no chemistry between the rest of the band and Cambell & Finn. Just look at Hold Me in Phoenix, that was a one hot mess.
Not to mention the fact that she lost a lot of fans over this. It's sad really.

SteveMacD 12-08-2018 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1245270)
I had the opposite reaction. It made my opinion of Christine drop. She stayed silent the entire time and claimed to be in London when the coup happened. She could have stopped it. Instead she was passive while even John and her looked at $$$$$ instead of the legacy of the band. Chris and John let Stevie control Mick. For her to reach out to him after settlement seems like a nice gesture and I am sure Lindsey appreciates it. But its a little too late IMHO. For Chris to say what she said about her and possibly even Stevie missing him really tells you the buyer's remorse they have. I think it finally sunk in what they did to themselves. No band member should have that much power. Lindsey states he has no idea why Stevie acted the way that she did but felt she was looking for reasons. IMHO it was clearly the Buckingham/McVie project where the rest of the band went on and recorded without her. It was a jealous rage the same kind when Stevie found out Lindsey and Chris wrote World Turning together. I think Chris and Stevie realize the cover band version of themselves they have become.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure the dismissal and subsequent radio silence wasn’t her choice.

FM77 12-08-2018 03:19 PM

There won’t be any going back. This is the last tour for that band. And the only way Chris stops this is if she chose LB. They picked SN for this tour and that’s that.

“Him or me”. They chose her.

vivfox 12-08-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1245276)
There won’t be any going back. This is the last tour for that band. And the only way Chris stops this is if she chose LB. They picked SN for this tour and that’s that.

“Him or me”. They chose her.

I know you are Stevie's friend but don't you think after Stevie complete's her next few tours she's going to want to ride the Fleetwood Mac train one more time, especially if LB returns? I imagine the world reaction at that time could mean FM filling up football stadiums again.

HomerMcvie 12-08-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1245277)
I know you are Stevie's friend but don't you think after Stevie complete's her next few tours she's going to want to ride the Fleetwood Mac train one more time, especially if LB returns? I imagine the world reaction at that time could mean FM filling up football stadiums again.

I think they've cheapened the brand, and they're too old for that now. And the world has now seen what a bitter hag $he is.

Jondalar 12-08-2018 03:42 PM

I seriously doubt Stevie gets in the Rock and Roll of Fame because of this.

AncientQueen 12-08-2018 03:44 PM

I feel that he shouldn't have talked about Christines e-mail. While I believe the part with her regrets, I don't think that she would write something like this about Stevie, that is not her place and not her style. And IF she did, it is not Lindseys place to make it public. To me, it looked like he was making that part up while he talked. In this section, I see the scheming side of Lindsey, not a good look.

The Chain 12-08-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AncientQueen (Post 1245280)
I feel that he shouldn't have talked about Christines e-mail. While I believe the part with her regrets, I don't think that she would write something like this about Stevie, that is not her place and not her style. And IF she did, it is not Lindseys place to make it public. To me, it looked like he was making that part up while he talked. In this section, I see the scheming side of Lindsey, not a good look.

:lol:
Translation: Stevie good, Lindsey bad! We get it.:rolleyes:
He's scheming now, and making sh** up on national television? Yeah, sure. Because that couldn't blow up in his face or anything. But you'll say or believe anything to keep dear Stevie as the hero in your narrative, won't you?

It takes all kinds.. Even the delusional.

elle 12-08-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AncientQueen (Post 1245280)
I feel that he shouldn't have talked about Christines e-mail. While I believe the part with her regrets, I don't think that she would write something like this about Stevie, that is not her place and not her style. And IF she did, it is not Lindseys place to make it public. To me, it looked like he was making that part up while he talked.

lmao.

what reason would he have for making that up?

it's his letter, he can share however much or little he wants, regardless of what fans may think. and for all you know, Chris may have told him at the end of that letter - please share this. because she told the same about her having nothing to do with it in both CBS interview in April and RS interview that same day. people chose not to believe her then, and now not to believe him about her telling him that.

and then we have peeps like FM77 coming on here going - Chris chose side. she said in april that she didn't. and she said in her letter to LB that she did not. that she had nothing to do with it. and yet. of course those same peeps "in the know" were claiming that lawsuit was settled months ago - while it was on the docket for everyone to see, and apparently settled just a couple of weeks ago. :wavey:

#HowAboutSomeCommonSense

AncientQueen 12-08-2018 04:02 PM

the Chain - your opinion is without value.
Elle - I respect you, but I have the same right to share my opinion here that you have.

FuzzyPlum 12-08-2018 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AncientQueen (Post 1245280)
I feel that he shouldn't have talked about Christines e-mail. While I believe the part with her regrets, I don't think that she would write something like this about Stevie, that is not her place and not her style. And IF she did, it is not Lindseys place to make it public. To me, it looked like he was making that part up while he talked. In this section, I see the scheming side of Lindsey, not a good look.


I think he'd quite like to get back on good terms with them, or at least with Christine. I don't think he'd jeopardise that by making stuff up. I believe every word he's said. The sh!t could hit the fan between Stevie and Christine.

The Chain 12-08-2018 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AncientQueen (Post 1245285)
the Chain - your opinion is without value.
Elle - I respect you, but I have the same right to share my opinion here that you have.

I'll chalk that up to projection.. the psychotic, obsessive-fan drivel you post is indeed absolutely valueless :nod:

Still waiting for you to post an example of my "sexism" in regards to Stevie. I actually had a room full of friends (half of which were women) in stitches over your accusations early today. But hey, gotta defend Stevie to the death, even when that means making crap up and vilifying people you don't even know or have barely interacted with, right? More power to ya.

elle 12-08-2018 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AncientQueen (Post 1245285)
the Chain - your opinion is without value.
Elle - I respect you, but I have the same right to share my opinion here that you have.

yup. and same. i will will forever agree and defend you when you are right, but also express my opinion countering yours when i think you are wrong. :wavey:

elle 12-08-2018 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1245286)
I think he'd quite like to get back on good terms with them, or at least with Christine. I don't think he'd jeopardise that by making stuff up. I believe every word he's said. The sh!t could hit the fan between Stevie and Christine.

exactly. he's got no reason to make this up. he's been very careful to give balanced descriptions of what happened.

i'm sure it already did. multiple times since january. as well between stevie and campbell from what we hear.

#ButBandIsHappyHappyHappy

AncientQueen 12-08-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chain (Post 1245287)
I'll chalk that up to projection.. the psychotic, obsessive-fan drivel you post is indeed absolutely valueless :nod:

Still waiting for you to post an example of my "sexism" in regards to Stevie. I actually had a room full of friends (half of which were women) in stitches over your accusations early today. But hey, gotta defend Stevie to the death, even when that means making crap up and vilifying people you don't even know or have barely interacted with, right? More power to ya.

I just reacted to your insults in the other thread. And I even quoted your sexist post about Stevie. And nowhere I'm as obsessed, angryand irrational as you are right here.
I'll quote you again, since you don't seem to read quotes well.

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Originally Posted by The Chain (Post 1245287)
I'll chalk that up to projection.. the psychotic, obsessive-fan drivel you post is indeed absolutely valueless :nod:

Still waiting for you to post an example of my "sexism" in regards to Stevie. I actually had a room full of friends (half of which were women) in stitches over your accusations early today. But hey, gotta defend Stevie to the death, even when that means making crap up and vilifying people you don't even know or have barely interacted with, right? More power to ya.

okay, you see that you are an aggressive asshat here, don't you?

AncientQueen 12-08-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1245288)
yup. and same. i will will forever agree and defend you when you are right, but also express my opinion countering yours when i think you are wrong. :wavey:

Fine, then play on.
:wavey:

The Chain 12-08-2018 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AncientQueen (Post 1245290)
I just reacted to your insults in the other thread. And I even quoted your sexist post about Stevie. And nowhere I'm as obsessed, angryand irrational as you are right here.
I'll quote you again, since you don't seem to read quotes well.


okay, you see that you are an aggressive asshat here, don't you?

Insults.. Hm, well you started this whole back and forth by calling my opinion bull****, proceeded to call David and I sexists- pretty insulting, especially when it wasn't warranted- that little thing you keep avoiding, that you're basically saying any negative opinion anyone has about Stevie is sexist, to which I merely pointed out how fundamentally flawed such an outlook is and then suggested such an illogical, extreme reaction might warrant some therapy.
Called my opinion valueless, and then an asshat.. You get what ya give out, I haven't been the one here antagonizing you, just responding. But right, I'm the aggressor.. What a massive hypocrite you are. :wavey:

FuzzyPlum 12-08-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1245289)
exactly. he's got no reason to make this up. he's been very careful to give balanced descriptions of what happened.

i'm sure it already did. multiple times since january. as well between stevie and campbell from what we hear.

#ButBandIsHappyHappyHappy

Damn, you get all the good gossip. Can't you let on a bit more?

Jondalar 12-08-2018 04:43 PM

Lindsey’s Anthology is charting on the Rock Chart on iTunes. It’s #56 which is good because it’s expensive.

sodascouts 12-08-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1245289)
i'm sure it already did. multiple times since january. as well between stevie and campbell from what we hear.

Good.

As I've said from the outset, I want them to realize what a big mistake they've made and ask Lindsey back.

I don't even care if they tour. It could be a nominal gesture for all I care. I just want that magical entity that was the Rumours 5 restored. I want the wrong to be righted, and I don't mean monetarily. Like Lindsey, I want the "family" back together, dysfunctional as it may be.

I just don't want it to end like this.

FuzzyPlum 12-08-2018 05:00 PM

If they ever did get back together (which is 98% unlikely to ever happen) it would be for the wrong reasons. It would be because Mick and Stevie knew they'd f****d up big time and were doing all they could to repair what's left of their ruined sh!tty reputation. They wouldn't be getting back together for the sake of the band or because they deep down loved Lindsey all along, but for their own selfish reasons.

BLY 12-08-2018 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts (Post 1245296)
Good.

As I've said from the outset, I want them to realize what a big mistake they've made and ask Lindsey back.

I don't even care if they tour. It could be a nominal gesture for all I care. I just want that magical entity that was the Rumours 5 restored. I want the wrong to be righted, and I don't mean monetarily. Like Lindsey, I want the "family" back together, dysfunctional as it may be.

I just don't want it to end like this.

Yep! My thoughts exactly.

cbBen 12-08-2018 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1245298)
If they ever did get back together (which is 98% unlikely to ever happen) it would be for the wrong reasons. It would be because Mick and Stevie knew they'd f****d up big time and were doing all they could to repair what's left of their ruined sh!tty reputation. They wouldn't be getting back together for the sake of the band or because they deep down loved Lindsey all along, but for their own selfish reasons.

Stevie and Mick recognizing their error and rectifying it *would* be to the benefit of the band and to its legacy.

"Love" each other? A *show* of unity is all we can ask of them. Behind closed doors, they can want to slit each other's throat for all we should care.

FuzzyPlum 12-08-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cbBen (Post 1245303)
Stevie and Mick recognizing their error and rectifying it *would* be to the benefit of the band and to its legacy.

"Love" each other? A *show* of unity is all we can ask of them. Behind closed doors, they can want to slit each other's throat for all we should care.


Nah, it would be hollow and we'd know it.
If they tried, I hope he'd tell them to p!ss off.

elle 12-08-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1245249)

heads up - someone who actually watched this pointed out there's extra unaired footage on here - he talks about his family, trying to talk it all over with Mick and Stevie and offering up to go to Maui, etc.

cbBen 12-08-2018 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1245307)
heads up - someone who actually watched this pointed out there's extra unaired footage on here - he talks about his family, trying to talk it all over with Mick and Stevie and offering up to go to Maui, etc.

Might want to make this bonus extended interview its own thread, just so people will take note of it.

I am with Lindsey. It's about the band tarnishing its legacy. Lindsey is willing to let them repair the damage. That is to his credit.

P.S. He shouldn't have speculated about the possibility that Stevie is jealous of his family. Lindsey's openness betrayed him there.

lovethemac1 12-08-2018 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1245307)
heads up - someone who actually watched this pointed out there's extra unaired footage on here - he talks about his family, trying to talk it all over with Mick and Stevie and offering up to go to Maui, etc.

Can't see this in Canada...............ARRRGGGGHHHHH

cbBen 12-08-2018 06:41 PM

He says his main disappointment is not that he'll never get to play with them again, but that their legacy is now tarnished. He wanted to fly to Hawaii to meet with Mick and Stevie to get past the issue, but they refused. "There was another agenda," he said. He also said Stevie saying "he goes or I go" is tantamount to Mick Jagger saying "either Keith goes or I go." I think the analogy is perfect.

Finally he says maybe they'll get their current experiment out of their system and ask him back, in which case, for the sake of their legacy, he'd agree. He is clearly the adult in the room.

The one mistake he makes is speculating that Stevie may be jealous of his family life. That's not something to wonder aloud about on national television.


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