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Jondalar 10-11-2018 06:55 PM

Are you Team Lindsey or Team Fleetwood Mac? Who are u routing for in the lawsuit?
 
Are you Team Lindsey or Team Fleetwood Mac? Who are u routing for in the lawsuit?

Jondalar 10-11-2018 07:00 PM

I voted for Lindsey. He’s been vilified and treated badly too many times by this band. It’s time he fights back. I don’t this is over money. I think he is really hurt especially since he made them famous.

Feather Blade 10-11-2018 07:03 PM

FM77 said in another thread that a suit had already been settled months ago. There may be no need to support either side. It is all very confusing.

Angel75 10-11-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Feather Blade (Post 1240048)
FM77 said in another thread that a suit had already been settled months ago. There may be no need to support either side. It is all very confusing.

Search for the lawsuit online...its dated October 9th...its new and its real

jwd 10-11-2018 07:45 PM

DUH! Team Lindsey for the win! Clean their ungrateful clocks!

BombaySapphire3 10-11-2018 08:02 PM

Team Lindsey..hit these greedy old money grubbers right where it hurts.

KenshiMaster16 10-11-2018 08:05 PM

As much as I love this band and all its various rotating members and line-ups, the way they have treated Lindsey is unforgivable in my eyes. This entire era stinks to high heaven and makes me sick and I'm honestly more sad that other talented individuals like Mike and Neil got dragged into this mess. This entire farce is disgraceful and is ruining the bands legacy and image. It's a sad sad time to be a Mac fan.

button-lip 10-11-2018 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16 (Post 1240107)
As much as I love this band and all its various rotating members and line-ups, the way they have treated Lindsey is unforgivable in my eyes. This entire era stinks to high heaven and makes me sick and I'm honestly more sad that other talented individuals like Mike and Neil got dragged into this mess. This entire farce is disgraceful and is ruining the bands legacy and image. It's a sad sad time to be a Mac fan.

Amen to that! This is no fun at all. It's sad, and I can't believe my favorite band is ending their legacy this way, just because of some stupid pettiness of one of its members. They all deserve to pay, but that won't make the situation easier.

jwd 10-11-2018 08:41 PM

DAMN, if we were the jury, Lindsey would win by...A LANDSLIDE!! :laugh:

20-0 as of right now!!!

mitzo 10-11-2018 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1240140)
DAMN, if we were the jury, Lindsey would win by...A LANDSLIDE!! :laugh:

20-0 as of right now!!!

Without even hearing both sides! So exciting!!

justcrazylove 10-11-2018 11:41 PM

We have heard both sides, the CBS interview was what the band proffered, the RS article and subsequent court filings are Lindsey take. But no it appears the Mac appeasers are wanting them to have another chance to explain themselves. why? I thought you all believed that version of events?:rolleyes:

mitzo 10-11-2018 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by justcrazylove (Post 1240216)
We have heard both sides, the CBS interview was what the band proffered, the RS article and subsequent court filings are Lindsey take. But no it appears the Mac appeasers are wanting them to have another chance to explain themselves. why? I thought you all believed that version of events?:rolleyes:

We have not seen the band's response to the lawsuit. Could be full of juicy rebuttals to his statements.

secondhandchain 10-11-2018 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1240218)
We have not seen the band's response to the lawsuit. Could be full of juicy rebuttals to his statements.

Tambourine b/witch will probably make up some awful lie.

TheWildHeart67 10-11-2018 11:47 PM

After reading the documents, watching the Music Cares speech and the Rolling Stone interview, I gotta be fair. Lindsey is right. I hope he wins. I'm sad Stevie is behind this.

lilyfee 10-11-2018 11:48 PM

I’m so glad we finally see Lindsey’s side of the story! While I’m not a Lindsey fan by any means, I hope he wins this fight because barring any new information they’ve treated him horribly.

HomerMcvie 10-11-2018 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1240219)
Tambourine b/witch will probably make up some awful lie.

I think the world is catching on that $he and Dick are LYING SACKS OF SH*T.

secondhandchain 10-11-2018 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1240223)
I think the world is catching on that $he and Dick are LYING SACKS OF SH*T.

I'm sure Neil and Mike are regretting their decision right about now. It's got to feel real awkward out there.

button-lip 10-12-2018 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lilyfee (Post 1240221)
I’m so glad we finally see Lindsey’s side of the story! While I’m not a Lindsey fan by any means, I hope he wins this fight because barring any new information they’ve treated him horribly.

Thank you for that! That's the thought process that any sane human being should have, right? They already had their chance to speak, and they decided to LIE.

Like you said, they have threated him horribly.

button-lip 10-12-2018 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1240223)
I think the world is catching on that $he and Dick are LYING SACKS OF SH*T.

I'm so glad to see so many people on social media changing sides. :D

DownOnRodeo 10-12-2018 12:27 AM

By way of showing support for Lindsey I voted for "Team Lindsey" in this binary poll, but it needs to be said that:
- as soon as Stevie and the 25 or so other defendants made their choice to shaft Lindsey, there was never going to be any real winners in this (except for Stevie's fragile ego, the lawyers, and Neil's album sales)
- "Fleetwood Mac" (qua the legacy of its most successful and well-known iteration, the Rumours lineup) does not "win" from this, even if Lindsey's claims are all thrown out. Indeed, the whole gist of his Complaint is that he (alone) is fighting for that "Fleetwood Mac."

Although the Partnership four are the main defendants, the lawsuit is in essence primarily targeted at the band's managers, etc.; but it would have been difficult--in terms of contract law and paucity of evidence--to launch a case against them (maybe he could have done it, but the discovery period would have been much longer and the management and promotion companies etc. would have stalled endlessly).

BlanketMan 10-12-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1240225)
I'm sure Neil and Mike are regretting their decision right about now. It's got to feel real awkward out there.

They've both been in the business a long time. If (and that's a big if!) Stevie/Mick/Christine/John were up-front with MC and NF about LB's dismissal, bracing them for the inevitable legal wrangling that would take place, the new guys may be taking it in stride. It would be a different story if these were two twenty-somethings, new to the scene - surely these vets knew something like this was coming; I imagine (hope!) they are both good at compartmentalizing the background noise and just enjoying playing great music in front of big crowds again.

Then again, I'm one of those big LB *AND* NF fans who somehow wants both guys to live happily ever after! ;)

DownOnRodeo 10-12-2018 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BlanketMan (Post 1240272)
I imagine (hope!) they are both good at compartmentalizing the background noise and just enjoying playing great music in front of big crowds again.

I imagine that is the case.
Neil even said in a recent interview that he was prepared to move on from this if "the **** hits the fan," so he definitely has a stoic perspective and isn't going to go to pieces over any of this. More likely it's a case of flog a few solo CDs, have some fun enjoying the playing and media circus, take the cash, and run.

sasja 10-12-2018 11:03 AM

Who needs bad concert reviews?
Not I, any longer! :lol::lol::lol:

James Kirk 10-12-2018 11:22 AM

Certain band members wanting to dump John when he was ill is beyond disgusting.

Team Lindsey all the way.

Hell, I might even make a Team Lindsey T-Shirt 😊

sodascouts 10-12-2018 11:39 AM

It's hard to root for someone when, as DOR has already stated, there are no real winners here.

I just want it to be settled and over as quickly as possible.

However, I did go ahead and pick Lindsey for this poll because I feel he is owed some redress.

bombaysaffires 10-12-2018 11:52 AM

I'm not routing for anyone; but I am rooting for the legacy of the Rumours5 which is really what is at stake.

Feather Blade 10-12-2018 11:56 AM

Not voting for either. There will be no real winners no matter what happens. Unless it is just the folks that want to hear about other people's dirty laundry. I suppose there will be a payoff for them.

Buster 10-12-2018 12:09 PM

No vote from me until more facts come out. This is not just about smirks and intro music. I think something more happened at MusiCares. Whether or not it warranted firing, I don’t know. I do know that FM handled this very poorly.
I refuse to accept one person’s side of the story as full truth.

The losers are the fans and the FM legacy. It’s hard to think of anyone as a real
winner.

Buster 10-12-2018 12:16 PM

I do think the band should immediately take SHN, MM, GOYW out of the setlist.

Alison 10-12-2018 12:29 PM

No vote from me either. We don't know all the facts....only heard basically one side. I'm afraid when all is said and done there will be no winner. Fleetwood Mac will have a destroyed legacy and be known for drama that they are famous for.

Storms123 10-12-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster (Post 1240333)
I do think the band should immediately take SHN, MM, GOYW out of the setlist.

Begs the question, I’ve been thinking about it since yesterday’s news broke, do you think they do pull the songs out of the set list? Either way, would speak volumes. I am asking because I am genuinely curious as to people’s views too, don’t want to open a can of worms as to why “insert name” is an awful human being and deserves every bad thing he/she has coming to them. Honestly wanting to know what fans think

sodascouts 10-12-2018 01:35 PM

Maybe we should do a new topic for that.

They never should have put those in there in the first place, IMHO. They are just reminding people that Lindsey is gone when Neil attempts to sing those songs. I guess they felt four older and relatively obscure songs were enough, though, and the rest of the male leads are Lindsey's, so they went there (though perhaps a cover like Blue Letter would have been a better idea than songs Lindsey wrote about Stevie).

Plus, if their strategy is to pretend like this isn't happening, then they'll keep them in.

My guess is that we won't see a change.

Buster 10-12-2018 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts (Post 1240350)
Maybe we should do a new topic for that.

They never should have put those in there in the first place, IMHO. They are just reminding people that Lindsey is gone when Neil attempts to sing those songs. I guess they felt four older and relatively obscure songs were enough, though, and the rest of the male leads are Lindsey's, so they went there (though perhaps a cover like Blue Letter would have been a better idea than songs Lindsey wrote about Stevie).

Plus, if their strategy is to pretend like this isn't happening, then they'll keep them in.

My guess is that we won't see a change.

I agree - never should have been in there.

Buster 10-12-2018 03:52 PM

I will say that regardless of winner/loser in this mess, Lindsey has played this beautifully. Making this public right at the start of both of their tours and when Stevie hall of fame nomination is announced (although he may not have known about that).

His timing is perfect.

Feather Blade 10-12-2018 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts (Post 1240350)
Maybe we should do a new topic for that.

They never should have put those in there in the first place, IMHO. They are just reminding people that Lindsey is gone when Neil attempts to sing those songs. I guess they felt four older and relatively obscure songs were enough, though, and the rest of the male leads are Lindsey's, so they went there (though perhaps a cover like Blue Letter would have been a better idea than songs Lindsey wrote about Stevie).

Plus, if their strategy is to pretend like this isn't happening, then they'll keep them in.

My guess is that we won't see a change.

I agree, I think they will stay there as well. (mainly due to to the fact that set lists don't seem to change much with this crew once a tour starts) I wish they weren't playing them because that is three more slots that could have been filled with something cool we hadn't heard before or hadn't heard in a long time, but it is what it is; they weren't going to have a perfectly competent male singer and only use him for back-up and duets.

jwd 10-12-2018 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1240210)
Without even hearing both sides! So exciting!!

Well, we already know they've perjured themselves. Lied about why they were going on without Lindsey. Then it turned out to be some other sensibilities that came into play. Lindsey smirked at me. We(Stevie) are unhappy. We've come to an impasse. Money rules! **** the guy who was instrumental in getting us here. We'll bring in my good friend Neil and Stevie's good friend Mike. **** Lindsey! They've been on trial for over 6 months now. The jury has a good handle on what's going on. What, 63-7 now. That's pretty indicative on the sentiments of where the fans' hearts lie.

SorcererJP 10-13-2018 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1240344)
Begs the question, I’ve been thinking about it since yesterday’s news broke, do you think they do pull the songs out of the set list? Either way, would speak volumes. I am asking because I am genuinely curious as to people’s views too, don’t want to open a can of worms as to why “insert name” is an awful human being and deserves every bad thing he/she has coming to them. Honestly wanting to know what fans think

Isn't it so that Don Felder wrote the main part of the famous guitar solo in Hotel California? They will get booed when they won't play that !!

Same goes for songs like GOYW, these are concert-staples they ought to play! no matter who's in the band. They did that in 1988, 1990 and 1994 as well. No problems with that back then. Ok, don't try to impersonate the acoustic Big Love ... that's too much.

I'm on neither side BTW. Who should I choose? I choose for the music. This law-suit isn't about who's side your on or being in or out Fleetwood Mac, it's simply a conflict about employment aka MONEY !! And that makes him as greedy as the majority overhere thinks about Mick and/or Stevie ...

sue 10-13-2018 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1240219)
Tambourine b/witch will probably make up some awful lie.

Then she’d be committing perjury, I think.
It’s one thing making up stories and bending the truth for the press.
But this is now going to the courts.

estranged4life 10-13-2018 06:46 AM

I've been away...
 
for awhile and did not know anything about a lawsuit until I saw about it on NBC this morning...Interesting.

bwboy 10-13-2018 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1240475)
Well, we already know they've perjured themselves. Lied about why they were going on without Lindsey. Then it turned out to be some other sensibilities that came into play. Lindsey smirked at me. We(Stevie) are unhappy. We've come to an impasse. Money rules! **** the guy who was instrumental in getting us here. We'll bring in my good friend Neil and Stevie's good friend Mike. **** Lindsey! They've been on trial for over 6 months now. The jury has a good handle on what's going on. What, 63-7 now. That's pretty indicative on the sentiments of where the fans' hearts lie.

To be clear, they didn't perjure themselves... they weren't under oath when they were interviewed. There's a world of difference. They also made it very clear they weren't going to badmouth Lindsey and were deliberately vague about specific details during their interviews. They could have mentioned the so-called smirking during the interview and then shown it, but they didn't. With this lawsuit, of course the band will unearth anything to make Lindsey look bad, but then again, Lindsey will do the same thing to make FM look bad.

Wasn't there an odd picture from the MusiCares red carpet where Lindsey posed like Jesus on the cross? That picture seemed very unlike Lindsey, very crass and melodramatic and outrageous, and certainly made me think something major had happened that night between Lindsey and the band. Something more than a smirk set the band off that night, including Lindsey.


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