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silversprings99 09-15-2018 10:38 AM

Shout for lindsey during concerts!
 
I'm shocked after having read Lindsey speaking on Instagram. Not answering his calls for more than 7 months??? For the people who are planning to go to the Fleetwood Mac concerts: let's all shout very hard for Lindsey before the concerts starts and after every Lindsey song they perform! Give the band the message we want him back!

Macfan4life 09-15-2018 10:45 AM

People did that in 1987 and 1990 in the concerts I attended.
Its not a surprise the band has cut him off. I'm surprised that people are surprised. Its clear they feel guilty and don't want to open up those wounds. Ignore what happened and move on. Its the only way they can go on.

BombaySapphire3 09-15-2018 10:48 AM

The problem with this is that most of who are appalled by the firing of Lindsey could probably not bear to sit through a Fakewood Mac show now. However if I had to go I'd do it.I have a deep bass/baritone voice that really carries too:lol:

sodascouts 09-15-2018 11:11 AM

Shout what? Perhaps "I MISS LINDSEY!" One hates to be rude and disruptive, but it would be nice to let them know of our discontent. Still, it might ruin the show for others if you did it a lot. Perhaps just once at the end so it doesn't bother anyone too much - except for them. Maybe "BRING BACK LINDSEY!" as Mick tells everyone to be kind to each other. (Hypocrite.)

I would never be able to bring myself to heckle anyone, though... even these guys.

BLY 09-15-2018 11:23 AM

As much as I hate what has happened to my all time favorite band in my opinion it’s extremely rude to shout out Lindsey’s name at a show. The people at theses shows paid good money to see this incarnation of the band to perform and they should enjoy the experience. I guess because the MAC does have some younger fans this will probably happen.

mtkad 09-15-2018 11:34 AM

They'll only encourage it if Stevie decides to tell stories involving Lindsey to set up songs. That aspect of this tour will be interesting to say the least! I wonder if she'll avoid it alltogether?

sodascouts 09-15-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mtkad (Post 1236791)
They'll only encourage it if Stevie decides to tell stories involving Lindsey to set up songs. That aspect of this tour will be interesting to say the least! I wonder if she'll avoid it alltogether?

I'm wondering that, too. Will he get excised entirely? Will stories like "I wrote this song when Lindsey and I lived in LA before hitting it big" suddenly become "I wrote this song when I was living in LA"? Will he just be erased from the narrative?

Will she tell the same stories, not acknowledging the change in any way?

Or will there be some kind of empty rhetoric thrown in? "I wrote this song when Lindsey and I were living in LA... and I'll always love Lindsey, I wish him well, anyway when Lindsey and I were living in LA...."

I highly doubt she'll say anything revealing or snarky. Not unless she has no self-control at all.

We'll find out soon!

SteveMacD 09-15-2018 11:46 AM

My hunch is that she probably won’t tell those stories, instead opting to tell stories about Tom Petty.

elle 09-15-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mtkad (Post 1236791)
They'll only encourage it if Stevie decides to tell stories involving Lindsey to set up songs. That aspect of this tour will be interesting to say the least! I wonder if she'll avoid it alltogether?

oh she'll talk about LB. just read her interviewing Paris Jackson that just came out. people are telling me it has her keep talking about Lindsey.

about shouting messages to performers on the stage and "heckling" at the shows? i've been known to shout stuff to both Lindsey and the whole band at shows, and in 99% of cases people around me were just amused and had no problems with that (while people are usually seriously pi**ed with people coming to the stage in front of their expensive seats and dancing etc). so arguments about "spoiling it for others who paid good money" by yelling some messages are pure bs. it can start interesting interactions and exchanges. just watch vids from U2 shows this year! very interesting exchanges, as you can imagine with different views of audiences on Bono's activism. :thumbsup:

elle 09-15-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1236794)
My hunch is that she probably won’t tell those stories, instead opting to tell stories about Tom Petty.

haha as usual your hunch is probably off. :p

she'll talk about both.

ryan4136 09-15-2018 11:53 AM

How about an old “We paid for Fleetwood Mac” after the crowded house and TBHB songs get played.

sodascouts 09-15-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236793)
oh she'll talk about LB. just read her interviewing Paris Hilton that just came out. people are telling me it has her keep talking about Lindsey.

Hmm. I'll have to check that out.

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about shouting messages to performers on the stage and "heckling" at the shows? i've been known to shout stuff to both Lindsey and the whole band at shows, and in 99% of cases people around me were just amused and had no problems with that (while people are usually seriously pi**ed with people coming to the stage in front of their expensive seats and dancing etc). so arguments about "spoiling it for others who paid good money" by yelling some messages are pure bs.
I think it depends on what you're shouting and how often you do it. I'll be honest with you. 99% of the time, it's not cool, IMHO.

(I'm sure you're part of the 1% that IS cool, so don't be offended by my remarks below.)

I have so many examples of lame shouting at shows.... At one show, a lady hollering "I WANT TO F**K YOU LINDSEY" multiple times throughout the night.... people trying to get Lindsey's attention and talk to him every time he gets within a ten foot radius of their location at the stage.... "HEY LINDSEY! LINDSEY! OVER HERE!" Ugh, let the man do his freaking job!!

I remember one time, this girl in front of me at the stage was seriously tying to show him pics on her phone! "HEY LINDSEY! LOOK! LOOK!" He glanced, nodded and turned away and, encouraged, she tried to show him some MORE photos - "LINDSEY! LINDSEY!" before finally quitting when he didn't come back again.

I stood at the stage in front of Lindsey for every show during the last tour - I went to four - and it was always the same. So many girls trying to get him to talk to them. So many people shouting at him throughout the show, trying to engage him in conversation.

Then there's the oft-slurred "I LURVE YOU LINDSEY" that always seems to get blurted out at least once at a quiet and intense moment in a song at some point in the show... There's the jerks who holler song titles they want to hear (I know we all hate those people, but it's the same sense of entitlement, the same attitude of "Lindsey needs to hear what I think, so I'm going to shout it at top volume.") I could go on and on.

Newsflash to these fans: The show isn't about you and Lindsey. If he comes over during Gypsy and chats to fans or something like that, that's cool. I've had some exchanges with him myself that way.

But when he's doing his thing and there are people who decide they want to have their own little exchange with him at top volume - and a lot of time, those people's comments aren't nearly as clever and funny as they think they are - count me among those who are unimpressed.

It's especially bad if they do it multiple times because he is foolish enough to respond. "This song is from Tango in the Night..." "YEAH! LOVE THAT ALBUM LINDSEY! YEAH! YEAH!" "Why, thanks. So, I wrote the song when I was thinking of leaving Fleetwood Mac...." "YEAH, YOU ARE TOTALLY BETTER WITHOUT THEM! YOU ROCK! YEAH! WOO-HOO!" "Thanks. It was a survival move. Anyway, when I wrote it, I thought I was looking out for love, but now I realize I was looking out for love..." "BIG LOVE! LOVE THIS SONG! BIG LOVE IS AWESOME! WOO-HOO!"

I just think, Oh my gosh, let the man speak. No one came here to hear you "talk" to Lindsey Buckingham.

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it can start interesting interactions and exchanges. just watch vids from U2 shows this year! very interesting exchanges, as you can imagine with different views of audiences on Bono's activism. :thumbsup:
I see what you mean, and I do have to make an exception for the recent "exchange" with Lindsey at the political fundraiser as it led to some interesting responses! But it is the exception that proves the rule. I've been to almost 50 shows (counting Fleetwood Mac, Stevie, and Lindsey combined) and I've never had another instance where I've felt such an "exchange" garnered anything of interest. Quite the opposite. Your Bono example about political exchanges during concerts between him and fans? I would hate to go to a concert and sit through that when I just want to hear some music!

Sorry for the rant - it's a pet peeve of mine.

Heckling is another animal altogether though - that's when you are deliberately trying to be disruptive and insulting towards the person onstage.

elle 09-15-2018 12:45 PM

^^ haha i do all those types of shouting you listed, and no worries!

i uploaded a video from Sugarland BuckVie show where you hear bunch of us constantly yelling stuff at him. it's hilarious (to us! lol). and i had bunch of comments on that video when people were like - "oh shut up you a**holes! he must hate it!" i don't know whether he hates it or loves it or a bit of both, but frankly, i don't really care that much. it takes his speeches in unexpected directions and off the cuff remarks instead of the ones we've all heard and hated for their predictability so many times. i go there to be entertained, and that entertains me :). and yes, i'm one of those people who always - always - have requests for songs for him. once he gave us back the whole speech about how he'll do requests on his next solo tour. i'm still waiting for that.

elle 09-15-2018 12:48 PM

.....................but we turned this thread into shouting TO Lindsey instead of what OP meant - shouting FOR / in support of Lindsey.

so i guess we should go back to the original intent - sorry y'all! :wavey:

Street_Dreamer 09-15-2018 01:04 PM

The only sort of protest that truly matters is not paying to see them live. That's all Money Man Mick cares about. There's no reason to possibly ruin the show for the people that do want to see them. Bring a sign or wear a LB shirt. I just don't see the logic in paying tickets, parking fees, etc. to see a band you hate and vocalizing your disdain for them during a show you wouldn't be at in the first place if it weren't for your anger toward them.

elle 09-15-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1236805)
The only sort of protest that truly matters is not paying to see them live.

i agree with that. hit them where it hurts.

however i've seen a number of people who bought FM tix and are now feeling like they are betraying Lindsey as more and more stuff is coming out about what's been going on. for those people, this can be a way to make some lemonade out of lemons.

sodascouts 09-15-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan4136 (Post 1236797)
How about an old “We paid for Fleetwood Mac” after the crowded house and TBHB songs get played.

Seriously.

BLY 09-15-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1236805)
The only sort of protest that truly matters is not paying to see them live. That's all Money Man Mick cares about. There's no reason to possibly ruin the show for the people that do want to see them. Bring a sign or wear a LB shirt. I just don't see the logic in paying tickets, parking fees, etc. to see a band you hate and vocalizing your disdain for them during a show you wouldn't be at in the first place if it weren't for your anger toward them.


EXACTLY! No words just don’t show up.

bombaysaffires 09-15-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 1236805)
The only sort of protest that truly matters is not paying to see them live. That's all Money Man Mick cares about. There's no reason to possibly ruin the show for the people that do want to see them. Bring a sign or wear a LB shirt. I just don't see the logic in paying tickets, parking fees, etc. to see a band you hate and vocalizing your disdain for them during a show you wouldn't be at in the first place if it weren't for your anger toward them.

Yep. You have to speak to them in THEIR language, not yours.

When you yell disparaging things, they just shake it off as some "loons" in the audience tonight. They see it as random, not as part of a larger message supported by plenty of other people.

You can yell at them all you want at a show, but if you've paid, and they've gotten your money, they're LAUGHING all the way to the bank.

StevieandChris 09-15-2018 02:09 PM

If any heckler sits next to me I will do my best to have them removed. Don’t ruin my time with your tantrum. Just don’t go.

rhiannondontgo 09-15-2018 02:18 PM

Lol go for it, guys. Buy tickets, give Stevie even more money, and then whine & b*tch until we get you removed from the venue. Sounds like a win/win.
Or maybe you could just stop being tantrumming toddlers and get a life instead??

elle 09-15-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1236813)
If any heckler sits next to me I will do my best to have them removed. Don’t ruin my time with your tantrum. Just don’t go.

but you have no right to tell people who want to see the show not to go.

and somehow i suspect nobody should be worried that people highly critical of the band and their recent behavior will even dream of throwing their hard-earned money away on overpriced tix for this tour thus giving the band and promoters the exact thing they seem to care about the most. :rolleyes:

like i already said above (not that anyone reads anyone's else's messages around here except for quick snarks apparently) -

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236807)
however i've seen a number of people who bought FM tix and are now feeling like they are betraying Lindsey as more and more stuff is coming out about what's been going on. for those people, this can be a way to make some lemonade out of lemons.


StevieandChris 09-15-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236818)
but you have no right to tell people who want to see the show not to go.

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I have the right to say whatever I want, just like everyone else here. This is a message board. I am not heckling or yelling at anyone at a public venue like a concert auditorium.

secondhandchain 09-15-2018 03:12 PM

I hope that they are truly embarrassed

secondhandchain 09-15-2018 03:15 PM

Many people that are going to this concert do not have any idea that Lindsey Buckingham was fired. My niece who is 20 years old is a big fan and she said she was excited to go buy tickets. When I told her that it’s not going to be good without Lindsey Buckingham she said she had no idea he was fired and then said she was no way going to buy tickets after that.

elle 09-15-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1236820)
I have the right to say whatever I want, just like everyone else here. This is a message board.

right, right. this is "lets show how much we can hate other fans" board these days. i always try to forget this.

StevieandChris 09-15-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236825)
right, right. this is "lets show how much we can hate other fans" board these days. i always try to forget this.

This is rich.

elle 09-15-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1236824)
Many people that are going to this concert do not have any idea that Lindsey Buckingham was fired. My niece who is 20 years old is a big fan and she said she was excited to go buy tickets. When I told her that it’s not going to be good without Lindsey Buckingham she said she had no idea he was fired and then said she was no way going to buy tickets after that.

yes. majority of the general public. and many probably have no idea there is a Lindsey Buckingham or who is or was in the band in the first place.

so why not do a PSA and let people know. #education #themoreyouknow

:cool::angel:

AncientQueen 09-15-2018 03:43 PM

What about holding up signs saying "Where is Lindsey?" or "We want Lindsey!". That way you can get your message through without disturbing anyone if you just hold it up now and then. in 2015, we made a sign saying "Welcome back Christine. We missed you. We love you!" and she came over, gave us a thump up and a beautiful smile.

BombaySapphire3 09-15-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1236823)
I hope that they are truly embarrassed

at least 2 of them have no sense of shame whatsoever

HomerMcvie 09-15-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1236831)
at least 2 of them have no sense of shame whatsoever

NONE.

They are complete egomaniacs.

button-lip 09-15-2018 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rhiannondontgo (Post 1236816)
Lol go for it, guys. Buy tickets, give Stevie even more money, and then whine & b*tch until we get you removed from the venue. Sounds like a win/win.
Or maybe you could just stop being tantrumming toddlers and get a life instead??

Haha! I would pay a ticket to these ****ty shows just to see all of you trying to get ME removed! :blob2::blob1:

But my money is well invested in Lindsey, you know, the guy SN can’t pathetically stop naming.... :D:wavey:

ryan4136 09-15-2018 07:40 PM

If you want to get under Mick and Stevie’s skin, you are gonna have to do something different than shout for LB, they are anticipating it, and will just shake it off.

You’ll need to get way more creative signs like

“I’m only here because my ticket was from a free giveaway”

“I’m here because I couldn’t give this ticket away.”

“I love the leg room on this tour”

“Nickelback sold this place out”

“I went to the Ellen Show and all I got was this lousy ticket”

“We want Steve Ferrone”

“24k Gold got to 144 in Belgium”

“Stevie: Taylor Swift wasn’t born the last time you had a solo Top 5 song”

“Bob Dylan wouldn’t have fired Lindsey”

“Lindsey has a beautiful close family”

lovethemac1 09-15-2018 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan4136 (Post 1236839)
If you want to get under Mick and Stevie’s skin, you are gonna have to do something different than shout for LB, they are anticipating it, and will just shake it off.

You’ll need to get way more creative signs like

“I’m only here because my ticket was from a free giveaway”

“I’m here because I couldn’t give this ticket away.”

“I love the leg room on this tour”

“Nickelback sold this place out”

“I went to the Ellen Show and all I got was this lousy ticket”

“We want Steve Ferrone”

“24k Gold got to 144 in Belgium”

“Stevie: Taylor Swift wasn’t born the last time you had a solo Top 5 song”

“Bob Dylan wouldn’t have fired Lindsey”

“Lindsey has a beautiful close family”

Every single one of these was laugh-out-loud awesome!!! :xoxo: Thank you.

lovethemac1 09-15-2018 10:13 PM

What would also be really funny is a big, floaty balloon of Lindsey that someone smuggles in and let’s float around the stage.

Street_Dreamer 09-15-2018 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan4136 (Post 1236839)
If you want to get under Mick and Stevie’s skin, you are gonna have to do something different than shout for LB, they are anticipating it, and will just shake it off.

You’ll need to get way more creative signs like

“I’m only here because my ticket was from a free giveaway”

“I’m here because I couldn’t give this ticket away.”

“I love the leg room on this tour”

“Nickelback sold this place out”

“I went to the Ellen Show and all I got was this lousy ticket”

“We want Steve Ferrone”

“24k Gold got to 144 in Belgium”

“Stevie: Taylor Swift wasn’t born the last time you had a solo Top 5 song”

“Bob Dylan wouldn’t have fired Lindsey”

“Lindsey has a beautiful close family”

***** two thumbs up comment.

dontlookdown 09-16-2018 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by silversprings99 (Post 1236786)
I'm shocked after having read Lindsey speaking on Instagram. Not answering his calls for more than 7 months??? For the people who are planning to go to the Fleetwood Mac concerts: let's all shout very hard for Lindsey before the concerts starts and after every Lindsey song they perform! Give the band the message we want him back!

There were people who were so impressed with Rick and Billy during the Tango tour, they held up signs that said "LINDSEY WHO?".

But that was a different time, and of course he chose to leave the band.

StevieandChris 09-16-2018 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1236831)
at least 2 of them have no sense of shame whatsoever

In this instance I don’t think Stevie and Mick have anything to be ashamed of. It was a decision they made. Done. They may not like the consequences of their decision in the long run, but they made they decision they thought was right for the band at the time.

lovethemac1 09-16-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1236878)
In this instance I don’t think Stevie and Mick have anything to be ashamed of. It was a decision they made. Done. They may not like the consequences of their decision in the long run, but they made they decision they thought was right for the band at the time.

The way they did it, and the way they have conducted themselves since has been very shameful. Its not the way you behave with a co-worker/friend (or not) after 45 years.

secondhandchain 09-16-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by StevieandChris (Post 1236878)
In this instance I don’t think Stevie and Mick have anything to be ashamed of. It was a decision they made. Done. They may not like the consequences of their decision in the long run, but they made they decision they thought was right for the band at the time.

Ok Sugar Mouse Jr.


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