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elle 09-14-2018 03:23 PM

Lindsey talks on IG
 
Go to his insta story. Very interesting. I’m sure we’ll have apologists coming out here, again, of course. But wow!

KenshiMaster16 09-14-2018 03:42 PM

Cool thing to see him being more open with the fans. Also cool to see his optimism about a sequel to BuckVie but it irks me he says hes reached out and nobody has responded.

TheWildHeart67 09-14-2018 03:44 PM

Thanks for posting, Elle.
He stated he has made constant overtures towards Christine, John, Stevie and Mick, since he was let go of FM, and so far he has had total "radio silence."
I noticed somebody asked him if he would do a follow-up to the "Buckvie" project and he hinted it was possible. I am curious if that question was answered before the unfortunate events. I am not seeing a date stamp on the instagram questions and answers??

elle 09-14-2018 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67 (Post 1236633)
Thanks for posting, Elle.
He stated he has made constant overtures towards Christine, John, Stevie and Mick, since he was let go of FM, and so far he has had total "radio silence."
I noticed somebody asked him if he would do a follow-up to the "Buckvie" project and he hinted it was possible. I am curious if that question was answered before the unfortunate events. I am not seeing a date stamp on the instagram questions and answers??

All questions and answers are from today.

bombaysaffires 09-14-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67 (Post 1236633)
Thanks for posting, Elle.
He stated he has made constant overtures towards Christine, John, Stevie and Mick, since he was let go of FM, and so far he has had total "radio silence."
I noticed somebody asked him if he would do a follow-up to the "Buckvie" project and he hinted it was possible. I am curious if that question was answered before the unfortunate events. I am not seeing a date stamp on the instagram questions and answers??

what what what??

Can anyone give more on this, copy and paste his answers??

Don't Instagram Stories go away after a day? Thought they were like Snapchat. It wold be good to capture, even if someone just takes a pic of the screen full of questions and answers with their phone. You know, so when the doubters come in demanding PROOF and all that.

singertobe 09-14-2018 04:05 PM

I'm starting to wish my mom didn't get me those tickets. I feel like I've betrayed Lindsey:sorry:

dontlookdown 09-14-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by singertobe (Post 1236639)
I'm starting to wish my mom didn't get me those tickets. I feel like I've betrayed Lindsey:sorry:

I hear ya.

I'm taking my kids to see FM for their first time. They saw Buckingham McVie last year and now they want "the real thing". Obviously I was hugely disappointed when all this came down.
They don't seem to care.

So I'm going with an open mind, but it feels like a betrayal. Will catch Lindsey on his tour too...

bwboy 09-14-2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlookdown (Post 1236641)
I'm taking my kids to see FM for their first time. They saw Buckingham McVie last year and now they want "the real thing".

Wow, you're a cool parent! Are they teenagers?

elle 09-14-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1236638)
what what what??

Can anyone give more on this, copy and paste his answers??

Don't Instagram Stories go away after a day? Thought they were like Snapchat. It wold be good to capture, even if someone just takes a pic of the screen full of questions and answers with their phone. You know, so when the doubters come in demanding PROOF and all that.

numerous fans screencapped all his responses. i will post them / link to them in LB forum, in appropriate thread.

here's the one people here are discussing as related to FM -



Storms123 09-14-2018 04:39 PM

I continue to be impressed as to how he’s reinventing, reaching out to connect and pivot. He’s rising above and moving on in the best way possible. And looks far more professional than his former friends and colleagues.

elle 09-14-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1236642)
Wow, you're a cool parent! Are they teenagers?

you catching Lindsey on his solo tour too?

button-lip 09-14-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlookdown (Post 1236641)
I hear ya.

I'm taking my kids to see FM for their first time. They saw Buckingham McVie last year and now they want "the real thing". Obviously I was hugely disappointed when all this came down.
They don't seem to care.

So I'm going with an open mind, but it feels like a betrayal. Will catch Lindsey on his tour too...

Clearly Lindsey is the “real thing” and not those four fantastic ex bandmates that are not answering his calls because hey! they’re too busy rehearsing.... for the past six months.

Glad to know we were not wrong. :nod:

button-lip 09-14-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1236645)
I continue to be impressed as to how he’s reinventing, reaching out to connect and pivot. He’s rising above and moving on in the best way possible. And looks far more professional than his former friends and colleagues.

Indeed! He clearly has nothing to hide and he did nothing wrong.

Their loss. His fans are supporting him and waiting for his tour. :]:]

elle 09-14-2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67 (Post 1236633)
Thanks for posting, Elle.
He stated he has made constant overtures towards Christine, John, Stevie and Mick, since he was let go of FM, and so far he has had total "radio silence."
I noticed somebody asked him if he would do a follow-up to the "Buckvie" project and he hinted it was possible. I am curious if that question was answered before the unfortunate events. I am not seeing a date stamp on the instagram questions and answers??

interestingly, he doesn't mention that he contacted John. it is unclear whether that's because he's actually talking to John, or he didn't even try to contact him for some reason (like John never talks to anyone anyway! ;) ).

yes, he responded (today) that he loved working with Christine and would love to do another BuckVie album - or something like that. i'll try to look for that caption.

that kinda weirdly collides with Christine not answering his calls (and we know she's not been mad at him since she stated that she knew nothing about firing).

bwboy 09-14-2018 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236646)
you catching Lindsey on his solo tour too?

I haven't bought a ticket yet, I'm hesitant to go alone. And it's Thanksgiving weekend when he's in Ohio, making it even more difficult. I was hoping a friend of mine, who's a big fan of artists like Bob Dylan, David Byrne, and Aimee Mann, would go with me, but he's not interested. He's not a FM fan, and he thinks Lindsey solo would be just like seeing FM, unfortunately :distress:

Thanks for posting this thread. Glad to see Lindsey using social media to speak to fans, very cool. Many years ago, I saw on a one hit wonder band's website they were taking song requests for concerts at each city they played at. I emailed the lead singer with a request for a rather obscure song from an earlier album, and he wrote back they didn't sing it live very often. So imagine my thrill when, the night of the concert, he introduced the song by saying it had been requested by a fan. I was blown away to know they added that song based on one request! And my friend didn't believe it was me until I showed him the email the next day.

elle 09-14-2018 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1236654)
I haven't bought a ticket yet, I'm hesitant to go alone. And it's Thanksgiving weekend when he's in Ohio, making it even more difficult.

why? plus, i'll be there, you won't be alone! i'm going for Thanksgiving some place else, than driving back home to DC, then driving 4-5 hours to Ohio on Monday. #noexcuse

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Today Lindsey in answer to a fans question confirmed publicly that despite reaching out to Mick, Christine, and Stevie, countless times, he has so far been met with radio silence. So after 43yrs and everything he's done for him, not one of them could be bothered to return his call in eight months. Mick, Stevie Nicks, and Christine McVie should be ashamed of themselves. And how can anyone with an ounce of decency buy a ticket for this tour now ? Its no wonder many of the arenas are half empty with more and more tickets being dumped on resale. If Stevie Nicks has any sense (and famously she's not the sharpest tack in the box) then she'll leave the sinking ship before her solo career goes the same way. @mickfleetwoodofficial @stevienicks @christinemcvieofficial @suretonemusic @mikecampbellofficial @neilfinnofficial @anthonymasoncbs @billboard @rollingstone @ultimateclassicrock @variety @tmz_tv #lindseybuckingham #fleetwoodmac #mickfleetwood #christinemcvie #stevienicks #johnmcvie #neilfinn #mikecampbell #istandwithlindsey @kbchrush @istandwithlindsey

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bwboy 09-14-2018 06:01 PM

You're going to the show in Canton? Wow! Are you going by yourself? How many shows are you going to?

I know we've had some not so nice back and forth here on occasion, but if I went, I would love to see you there, if you're up for it. I've seen FM 4 times live, and only one of those times was with someone who loved the band as much as I did. The other times it was with casual friends.

My plan was to wait and see how the weather was, and if it was ok, go up and buy a good ticket from a scalper. I would love to be in the front row. The last concert I was at, I was in the front row, so after that, I'm spoiled. It was the best! I really should just commit to going, Lindsey's not getting any younger, and neither am I! I regretted not seeing Lindsey and Christine, but there was no way to know that might have been the last opportunity to see them. Now I realize every tour from here on out, whether it's Lindsey or FM,could be their last.

BombaySapphire3 09-14-2018 06:02 PM

If I had a ticket to a Fakewood Mac show I would burn it..The remainder of Fleetwood Mac now treating Lindsey like a persona non grata is reprehensible .If it was not for Lindsey they would not be able to be out there milking the last drops from the Rumours teat and fleecing unsuspecting boomers and others with their patchwork quilt show.

jwd 09-14-2018 06:25 PM

Hey, thanks Elle for posting this. You do a lot to keep us all informed here on The Ledge.

I guess my first question is why would Lindsey's ex band mates not return his calls? Like they are totally cutting him out of their lives. Was what he did so reprehensible to them that they can't even communicate with him? Yet Lindsey still holds out hope for a BuckVie II. This whole situation has become so bizarre to me. I'm thankful Lindsey is reaching out on IG to the fans. We deserve to know.

KenshiMaster16 09-14-2018 07:19 PM

If I had to wager a guess, I think its safe to say just because shes not responding doesnt mean theres bad blood between them. Perhaps her focus may be getting the tour over with and figuring out the next step and he is optimistic that may mean a project with him in between the Mac tour and whatever they do next.

Stevie and Mick can go eat rocks. For now I will stay optimistic about John and Christine. John is probably too mellow to care what with the ever revolving door of members and everything hes been through the past several years. When it comes to Christine, they will always have that beautiful musical bond and I cant see her as dealing with petty crap anymore. Most likely this was a business or contractual decision, or some long-standing loyalty to Mick, not a personal dig to Lindsey. She always seemed above that. Just look at her and John over the years.

Anyway, thats just my gut feeling.

jwd 09-14-2018 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16 (Post 1236673)
If I had to wager a guess, I think its safe to say just because shes not responding doesnt mean theres bad blood between them. Perhaps her focus may be getting the tour over with and figuring out the next step and he is optimistic that may mean a project with him in between the Mac tour and whatever they do next.

Stevie and Mick can go eat rocks. For now I will stay optimistic about John and Christine. John is probably too mellow to care what with the ever revolving door of members and everything hes been through the past several years. When it comes to Christine, they will always have that beautiful musical bond and I cant see her as dealing with petty crap anymore. Most likely this was a business or contractual decision, or some long-standing loyalty to Mick, not a personal dig to Lindsey. She always seemed above that. Just look at her and John over the years.

Anyway, thats just my gut feeling.


I hope you're right. If there is anything salvageable from this mess, I'd want it to be Lindsey and Chris.

sodascouts 09-14-2018 07:33 PM

Christine's probably been instructed not to speak to him. Still, a honorable woman would do so anyway, or at the very least acknowledge him. It's so insulting and hurtful to completely ignore him.

So disappointing. I'm not surprised, though. I was not among those who thought Christine was on Lindsey's side in any meaningful way; she may not have been in on the decision, but she's committed to the "new band" now. Also, she might be ashamed to talk to Lindsey, because she obviously has no intention of advocating for him within the band.

Perhaps Lindsey hopes that after FM is over and Christine has nothing to do / nothing to lose by talking to him, they'll collaborate again.

It is rather interesting that he didn't call John. It seems John has no power and no desire to go against Mick, so I guess it would be a waste of time, but I'm surprised he didn't give it a shot anyway. Maybe he doesn't have John's number!

Storms123 09-14-2018 07:41 PM

The fact he reached out to them at all makes me think there are no “legal” ramifications involved here and it’s egos plain and simple. Every time some other little tid bit trickles out, my heart breaks all over again. Disgust

jwd 09-14-2018 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1236681)
The fact he reached out to them at all makes me think there are no “legal” ramifications involved here and it’s egos plain and simple. Every time some other little tid bit trickles out, my heart breaks all over again. Disgust


I know. I know. I know. :distress:

elle 09-14-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1236662)
if I went, I would love to see you there, if you're up for it. I've seen FM 4 times live, and only one of those times was with someone who loved the band as much as I did. The other times it was with casual friends.

in my experience, it is 1000 times better to meet up with huge fans than try to drag with you some person who doesn't really care. i've done both, and i have had tons of fun every time when i just met up with huge fans, who i don't have to shepherd and make sure they have good time. i'm meeting with some dear friends at the Canton show who are huge LB fans. i also told SteveMacD that we HAVE to meet up at this show, since he's coming too. so of course you should join us at the venue! don't miss it, i bet you won't regret it! :wavey:

button-lip 09-14-2018 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storms123 (Post 1236681)
The fact he reached out to them at all makes me think there are no “legal” ramifications involved here and it’s egos plain and simple. Every time some other little tid bit trickles out, my heart breaks all over again. Disgust

Literally. Every time I feel there's still some hope, some new tidbit pops up and bam! :distress::distress::distress::distress::distress::(:(:(

Now I only wish he would stop trying to contact them. Because, yes, no more of that nonsense in his life.

elle 09-14-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16 (Post 1236673)
If I had to wager a guess, I think its safe to say just because shes not responding doesnt mean theres bad blood between them.

she's gone out of her way to say on tv, in their first interview post-firing that she knew nothing about it, that she went back to London not seeing anything being wrong and that she assumed the upcoming FM tour will be with LB, until she got the call once she was back in London. then she said Mick explained to her why they need to go this way, and now she understands. whatever that means.

why she's not saying anything or taking Lindsey's calls? idk, there are any number of guesses and people have been bringing them up. if i were her, i'd hope i would. there are some people in their 70s and 80s in my life who i knew when they were young. their thinking and priorities might be a bit different than when they were younger. :shrug:

elle 09-14-2018 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts (Post 1236677)
It is rather interesting that he didn't call John. It seems John has no power and no desire to go against Mick, so I guess it would be a waste of time, but I'm surprised he didn't give it a shot anyway. Maybe he doesn't have John's number!

:laugh: maybe?

to be factual - we don't know whether he didn't call John, or if John and LB are talking. they are neighbors, after all. and on tours, John and LB usually stayed the same places, away from the rest of the band.

then again, in that one IG comment, KB added "and you too, John" after she first listed all other members. maybe John is just hard to reach!

bombaysaffires 09-14-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236651)
interestingly, he doesn't mention that he contacted John. it is unclear whether that's because he's actually talking to John, or he didn't even try to contact him for some reason (like John never talks to anyone anyway! ;) ).

yes, he responded (today) that he loved working with Christine and would love to do another BuckVie album - or something like that. i'll try to look for that caption.

that kinda weirdly collides with Christine not answering his calls (and we know she's not been mad at him since she stated that she knew nothing about firing).

the John bit jumped out to me too.

Maybe John is being Switzerland and staying neutral....although the fact that Mick said he and Stevie worked on him to convince him they could go on leaves him with dirty hands in this.

elle 09-14-2018 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1236711)
the John bit jumped out to me too.

Maybe John is being Switzerland and staying neutral....although the fact that Mick said he and Stevie worked on him to convince him they could go on leaves him with dirty hands in this.

i should re-listen that RS interview, but i just so don't feel like it. Mick may have said "we" or may have said that just he had to talk to John for few days to convince him. John is no-nonsense, somehow i don't think SN trying to convince him in anything would help.

TheWildHeart67 09-14-2018 09:09 PM

I just noticed that part that he did not mention John. I wonder if he has spoken to John

SteveMacD 09-14-2018 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWildHeart67 (Post 1236738)
I just noticed that part that he did not mention John. I wonder if he has spoken to John

I wonder if anyone has spoken to John since 2014.

bombaysaffires 09-14-2018 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236715)
i should re-listen that RS interview, but i just so don't feel like it. Mick may have said "we" or may have said that just he had to talk to John for few days to convince him. John is no-nonsense, somehow i don't think SN trying to convince him in anything would help.

perhaps. though she sure hung onto his arm during that CBS interview.

DownOnRodeo 09-14-2018 09:24 PM

I rewatched Destiny Rules the other night. Very instructive to rewatch it in light of these 2017-2018 events.

As evidenced in that documentary, the FM machine these days is ruled by Stevie, Mick and the various managers and promoters etc.

When Lindsey saw that his attempts to make the 2018 FM tour more than just a Classic East/West rehash was failing, and that Stevie insisted on three days between each date, he must have made his own demand that he at least be able to do some 'small machine' shows between each FM date, to balance out the sour taste of dedicating countless months of his life to the static FM machine. And because MusiCares was the deadline for the band's negotiations in terms of the promoters etc., Stevie and Mick opted to use Lindsey's bargaining ultimatum as an excuse to just drop him altogether, thereby making Stevie "happy" to enjoy her own, Lindsey-free world for the next ten years. And then the misguided 'strategy' on the part of the managers etc. was to impose a radio silence against Lindsey (so that the likes of Christine would not start having second thoughts), and to let their biggest bullsh#tter, Mick, do the bulk of the band's gaslighty PR.

Edit: What is clear from Destiny Rules is that they can be wavering about a difficult decision for years and only "resolve" it (through fights, ultimatums, and threats of breakup) at the eleventh hour. Since this current tour was supposedly planned years in advance, that dysfunctional MO is the reason why everything came right down to the wire around MusiCares. Basically, everyone placates Lindsey's preferences with vague assurances until the last minute, at which point Stevie spits the dummy and the corporate FM machine puts its foot down.


As for John being talked into the 'drop Lindsey' scheme--John would agree to anything to shut Mick up. :)

Hawkeye 09-14-2018 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1236689)
in my experience, it is 1000 times better to meet up with huge fans than try to drag with you some person who doesn't really care. i've done both, and i have had tons of fun every time when i just met up with huge fans, who i don't have to shepherd and make sure they have good time. i'm meeting with some dear friends at the Canton show who are huge LB fans. i also told SteveMacD that we HAVE to meet up at this show, since he's coming too. so of course you should join us at the venue! don't miss it, i bet you won't regret it! :wavey:


Hmmm. I just looked up how far away Canton Ohio is and it’s only 4 hours from me. Just inside what I’d be willing to drive for any Mac related show. I’m already goin to Tonawanda for sure but I’m also considering going to Canton too to meet Elle and Steve (my fellow lover of consistency! )

elle 09-14-2018 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye (Post 1236750)
Hmmm. I just looked up how far away Canton Ohio is and it’s only 4 hours from me. Just inside what I’d be willing to drive for any Mac related show. I’m already goin to Tonawanda for sure but I’m also considering going to Canton too to meet Elle and Steve (my fellow lover of consistency! )

wow - that's that fan spirit! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

iamnotafraid 09-14-2018 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jwd (Post 1236667)
Hey, thanks Elle for posting this. You do a lot to keep us all informed here on The Ledge.


I second that.

michelej1 09-14-2018 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16 (Post 1236632)
Cool thing to see him being more open with the fans. Also cool to see his optimism about a sequel to BuckVie but it irks me he says hes reached out and nobody has responded.

I was sad that Christine was included in that.

BombaySapphire3 09-15-2018 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1236769)
I was sad that Christine was included in that.

Since she can no longer sing or play the keyboards it begs the question of why he would even bother to call the crone in the first place:shrug:

elle 09-15-2018 01:13 AM

on BuckVie 2
 



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