KB comments: LB was fired on Jan 28
 

this is a thread to discuss below, instead of the Record thread which the starter asked to be devoid of interpretations and have only statements from the band members and closest friends, co-wrokers and family.

Nancy's comment in the other thread:

Nancy and John, it would be great if you guys would remove your comments / discussion / interpretation from the record thread and continue your discussion here.

Ok, in the spirit of us all trying to get along. I'll delete mine.

Apologies to Nancy and DownonRodeo. I actually forgot where I was quite honestly. But, we seem to be bickering too much. And I don't enjoy it. :xoxo:

Two days after Musicares. After all those heartfelt speeches and dances and "Lindsey and I joined FM when we were 16 and 17..." :lol::lol::lol:

It still baffles me how cold some people can be. You have known the man for more than 50 years and you have been plotting his demise since last year... how twisted you can be to do something like that? :distress:

Just to clarify: My comment above was in response to DownOnRodeo's query about whether or not there was a time limit to editing posts.

I deleted it anyway.

Mine was also. I think her point was that the poster didn't want any discussion. Which apparently included responding.

I think it was the fact that there was discussion in addition to the response to the question that was the problem. However, in the case of my post, I was just repeating what DOR had already said, not adding my own interp per se. Ah well. If deleting it keeps The Record on track, I am happy to do so.

i know. i almost responded to him about that too, but then decided to keep it out.

so DownonRodeo - it seems there is a limit on how many times you can edit a single post, or maybe it's a time limit. i experienced it before too, and it's definitely there, unfortunately.

i don't think current mods can do anything to change that.


thanks so much for being so nice and keeping it on track, Nancy and John! :nod: :thumbsup:

timeline
 

against my better judgement i will add a comment in Rumours forum, since this is some new info. the timeline seems to be:

Jan 26 - Musicares event in NYC.
Jan 27 - Pattie's video with him discussing how he wants to do both Mac and solo tour at the same time in the fall was recorded on Jan 27. at the time LB was heading to the airport to fly back home to LA, and Christine McVie was flying to London at the same time.
Jan 28 - Lindsey is back in LA. Mick is still in NYC. no idea where Stevie and John are. Christine McVie lands in London.

also Jan 28 - LB is fired. since other FM members are scattered throughout the world at the time, and it's unclear whether LB was the only one in LA, must have been fired by the phone call.

this makes me wonder whether John's vote came after the firing already took place? it also confirms Christine's claim that she only heard about it after she landed in London, and that everything seemed on track for the Classic 5 FM tour to her when she got on the plane in NYC on Jan 27.

So then the part about Mick going out to promoters to see if they would support a Stevie less or Lindsey less tour and the promoters votes 19 to 1 for a Lindsey less tour is lies too then as surely in two days they couldn't have approached and got answers back from everyone that fast?
Or do you think this is true and maybe Mick had gone and asked the promoters this all BEFORE MusiCares?

This whole premeditated plan by SN just keeps getting worse each day

if it happened, it must have been well before Musicares. which again makes it incredibly low and treasonous. which KB also said in her comments recently.

some fans said that no wonder the last song on the new CD that comes with the LB concert ticket is Treason. they might be onto something! ;)

He must have done something pretty nasty to have this happen, is all I can say. And as for Christine being caught unawares, how ridiculous.

I think the promoters thing is suspect. We only heard it from one place, AFAIK - that guy on Facebook, who was a photographer and said he heard it from a friend of the band, right? There was no secondary verification. It wouldn't be the first time third hand information hasn't been accurate.

Besides, Mick didn't need to call any promoters and have them tell him Stevie was more marketable. That's a given. Now, I could see after the fact that he might have had to go tell angry promoters, all of whom had been expecting to market the Rumours 5, that Stevie had forced his hand, that it was better to fire Lindsey than to lose her, and all but one promoter agreeing.

But it's evident they acted as soon as Christine was gone so they could do their "majority rules" without her.

They waited three more days to call Campbell on his birthday and ask him to join the band officially, according to the band's story. If that's true, I think it was more to give him a nice birthday surprise than because they spent those three days deliberating on whether or not to call him.

when, last year?

or 40 years ago.

agree about ridiculous. these people are ridiculous. drugs must have ate all their brains, if they even had any to start with. and now everyone is laughing at the "new band" of people in their 70s and saying stupidity like this makes complete sense for FM.

Question: has Christine said when they told her? I didn't see it in The Record thread. I know it was after the fact, but I wonder how long they waited.

You keep saying that but you still don't know what that "something" must be. Keep dreaming. :D

I know as much as anyone on this board. Which is that the band fired him. I am assuming he did something to cause that. A logical cause and effect assumption.

His wife is implying he isn't. It's safe to say she knows more than all of us.

Thank you Elle, sodascouts, and jbrownsjr!
I clearly bit off more than I can chew with the "Record" thread... which is soon turning into the Kristen Buckingham SNS Repository thread anyway :laugh:

About the Instagram post--well, this seems to potentially dissipate any doubt about who was the master Sith Lord and who was the apprentice.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPz...5PLG/giphy.gif
On the Edge of Palpatine

With all due respect she is pissed her husband's earning potential has evaporated, and she is likely not a Stevie fan after Stevie playing the love for Linds on stage and her writing songs with suggestive lyrics about him etc. (see eg. Thrown Down, Fall from Grace, You May Be the One...)

She is in a rage and acting out on social media, dropping f bombs and the like.

LB does NOT need anymore money so nice try.

Well she welcomed Stevie into her home when the EP was getting made a few years ago. Let her stay there with her family and have dinner with her kids which she totally didn't have to do if she disliked Stevie in the past or didn't want her there. And prior to this whole thing she was always super supportive and encouraging about the band on social media. If you go back to even as recent as the Musicares event you can see her posts. So I doubt that's it.
She probably is not too happy about the money (who wouldn't be?) but it really does seem like the betrayal is what's upset her the most which anyone in the Buckingham family is entitled to.

I agree Lindsey should be fine financially, but I also think he had expectations about the earnings from the tour. All of them need an income to support their lifestyles, just like we do.

So because she’s pissed (according to you), she’s lying?

I’m sure after 20+ years of being by Lindsey’s side she’s aware of Stevie’s specter and she doesn’t care. What Stevie planned for her and Lindsey to happen when they were old and what actually did happen are two different things.

So, if we’re talking about someone in a rage, that would be Stevie, not KB.

Oh. This is a big mistake. Please tell me she is not foolish enough to start trash talking Stevie. :distress: There will be a huge backlash.

If she thinks she is going to come for Stevie she is making a huge gaffe. I feared this might happen.

Really? Why is Mr. Integrity having $300 meet and greets then? He watched a **** ton of money fly out the window with the loss of the FM tour and his wife has some expensive habits like building $20 million homes among other things.

As far as Stevie is concerned, this looks worse than I ever imagined...

And sorry, Et Tu Brute, sums up Christine’s hand in all this.

( what does KB mean about the basement? )

Why doesn't KB just come out and say what really happened instead of taking pot shots at the band on social media? I'll tell you why. It's not gonna make hubby look too good. That's why. Not to mention does anyone think that the band or their management is going to allow this BS to torpedo this tour?

M&G = $100
Ticket = $200

I actually thought his ticket prices were very reasonable. BuckVie was much more.

They're reasonable to me. You can find tickets on many venues at $100. $300 for a M&G AND a concert is really good! :woohoo:

And sales are going really well. :]:]

I might be in DC the weekend of his show.

Stevie's defenders are not as numerous as they used to be.

That said, I agree that it would be a bad idea to escalate this into an insult fest.

Right now, it's just a jab at the fact that Stevie was indeed disloyal to Lindsey, which even her defenders recognize; they just believe it was justifiable. If I were Kristen, I wouldn't go lower.

I agree 100%

Exactly, we know enough now to know that Stevie was responsible, backed by Mick.....there is no need for KB to continue with her social media digs or she will start to look she's as petty as the rest of FM. Keep it classy and dignified so you stand above the band.

That's a pretty inexpensive meet n greet, if you ask me.

Sure is. I was shocked at the prices.

Don Felder charged $400, and he is definitely not worth more than Lindsey. Of course, Felder did not sell very many. I think at the show I went to, he had all of three people buy a meet'n'greet. By contrast, Lindsey is selling out of VIP packages in some venues.

I honestly have never seen so many $tevie defectors. I was reading some FB and instagram today and I'm shocked how many people worshiped the ground $he walked on. People that I never thought would turn on her are so vocal. I'm even like, "whoa whoa whoa" sometimes.

And then a few shippers I know are backing KB. What is going on in the world!! :laugh::laugh::laugh: