Interview with comments from Sharon Celani
 

I really wasn't sure where to post this, so I apologize if maybe it should've been in a different board!

https://starworldwidenetworks.com/ep...cinda-williams

I found this podcast/interview/radio thing and Sharon Celani was one of the guests. Kinda random if you ask me, but at around the 12.05 mark she talks about the upcoming tour, interestingly she says that they don't go into rehearsals until in August, but the ones that were done earlier with Mike and Neil went well, Mike is a great guitarist and Neil's voice sounds good with Stevie and Christine. The interviewer talks about Lindsey not being there and she says she's really sad about it, that she's a huge fan of Lindsey and again repeats that it's very sad.

Thanks for posting this. The interesting part was Stevie promising Sharon to get her in Fleetwood Mac the whole time. Not until Lindsey left did Stevie finally make true on her word to bring her into the band. Then Fleetwood Mac had back up singers. Funny story that during the Dance Lindsey asked Sharon how she knew the parts of the songs. She told Lindsey she had been singing in Fleetwood Mac for 10 years. LAMO. Lindsey did not even know Stevie brought her back up singers on tour for all those years?
Sharon talked about singing back up for Don't Come Around Here No More. I wish the interviewer could have asked the question that has been debated forever. Is Stevie singing back up on the song? She is not credited but I have always thought I heard her.

That sounds crazy that Lindsey didn't know Sharon had been singing backup with FM, considering Lindsey himself performed with FM on their last show for Behind the Mask. He played guitar for Landslide and performed Go Your Own Way, so it's kind of hard to believe he didn't notice Sharon or the other backup singer.

From Musicares onward that would have been about 6 months. They could have recorded the lions share of an album in that time.
Oh, to think what could have been.

thanks for sharing and pointing out at what times to listen to.

it's interesting to hear her glance over Lindsey "leaving" like he just comes and goes and is "sadly" temporary away now. almost sounds like the band thought throwing him out for a bit is not a big deal. and that maybe they even tried to sell that he "left" to the new band members and even backup band? :distress:


when i was listening to this something else struck me - how some fans eat up anything served by the band or its members, and blindly follow whether or not that goes against any rhyme or reason. like that discussion about the double album. even though we have interviews audio or statements to the contrary from the past, some people just take whatever the newest statement by their favorite is and try to twist any reality to fit that statement. like this "he left" bs that band is trying to serve the public now, and that Sharon is kinda-sorta repeating here. like he has a choice to come and go.

many, many other fans think and don't blindly follow. recently, there were so many of us calling bs on Lindsey and Christine statements that BuckVie album was always gonna be a duo album. we had statements and interviews from years before making it very clear it was gonna be a FM album. these fans call bs from any band members, whether we like them or not.

very interesting dynamic.

Think about this: In the time it took from the beginnings of what became EP and LBCM through today, it’s almost double the time of Peter Green’s tenure in Fleetwood Mac.

yes. that's why Lindsey is so much better off being thrown out of this band that has been only putting barriers in front of him since before SYW. remember how during recording of SYW he was already talking about the next FM album? that was back in like 2001-02. the album that STILL never came out. :distress:

how sad. Stevie Nicks tried to kill that band foir many years now, all the while talking how she never would. she succeeded now.

and that's not trying to talk bad about her. it's just a fact, and anyone who doesn't accept that is just willfully blind. she may have had her reasons, and you may think they are justified or not, but that's what she did. if she was thrown out of FM some time in the last decade plus, we would have had several FM albums in this century. you know it and i know it. yet, the situation is very different now. :shrug:

I think its an insignificant detail Lindsey could care less about. He probably never saw them live in 1987 and his Landslide in 1990 was probably in and out. I bet if Lindsey would have toured with the band in 1987 Stevie would not have brought Sharon.

isn't it interesting that that's what a Stevie fan would focus on from this whole interview? why would Lindsey know every detail about the band he left to do other things? that would be sick.

LOL yeah, that's sick all right!

Lindsey was at the entire concert, so yeah, I'm surprised he didn't notice there were two backup singers. I mean, how could he miss them? Especially when he was on the stage performing Go Your Own Way with them?!?

I'm a Fleetwood Mac fan, you're a Lindsey fan. You hate Fleetwood Mac, you call them different names, say they're not the real band, etc. I like Lindsey and his music, and I don't bad mouth him. That's the difference between you and I, you try to get people to hate Fleetwood Mac. I don't try to get people to hate Lindsey.

As I’ve said for many, many years, I’m a Fleetwood Mac fan in spite of Stevie, not because of her. John and Christine McVie are probably the biggest reason I keep coming back, but the radically different styles amongst the guitarists is the biggest reason I continue listening to them. Yes, I love Lindsey, especially as someone who grew up with folk music (my uncle was friends with Noel “Paul” Stookey of Peter, Paul & Mary), so seeing a folkie rocking out was a game changer. But after I started listening to the entire catalog, so were Peter, Danny, Bob, and Billy in very different ways. “Mystery To Me” was like the third or fourth album I bought, and it was one that I didn’t immediately get, but now it’s top 5 or so. Mike Campbell is always someone I felt was the John McVie of guitar: always tasteful, plays exactly what the song requires without overplaying or leaving one wanting, and criminally underrated, so seeing them together is blowing my mind.

That’s not to say I’m happy about what played out, but I don’t have control over it. I could be angry, but I already got over that last year.

Even if he noticed her at those shows, he may not have known she'd been touring full time with them for so long.

Very true, and I certainly wasn't trying to make a big deal out of it. I simply expressed surprise that he supposedly said he didn't know Sharon had toured with FM, when he shared a stage with her while she was singing backup. Your point makes more sense, that maybe Lindsey just hadn't realized how long Sharon had been touring with them, not that he didn't see her on the night he performed with them.

wow. apparently you consider being a Stevie fan is so bad that you decided to ascribe all kinds of non-existent hate to me. :shrug:

you know, you seem to be more unhappy about it being called BuckVie than most of us are. i was really annoyed at first, as you know, but in the end, i thought it got their names out there a bit. it is possible that all the backlash now is there because his name was more in public eye last year, than it was with FM for a very long time now. so i'm kinda ambivalent about them calling it BuckVie.

although, better solution would have been to throw out SN at the end of 2016 when she said her definitive no to the album.

Well, you are posting on other threads that people shouldn't attend the upcoming FM tour and you are calling the band fakes. It is Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey, just like it was in 1987 when Lindsey left and Billy and Rick joined, and just like it was still Fleetwood Mac when Stevie and Rick left and Bekka and Dave joined. And again when Billy, Bekka, and Dave were fired and Lindsey and Stevie returned. And it was still Fleetwood Mac when Christine left. And it's Fleetwood Mac now with Lindsey gone and Mike and Neil there. Not to mention Peter Green, Bob Welch, Bob Weston, etc. So yes, it's quite obvious you don't like FM anymore. If I'm wrong, just say you like the band, while posting how happy you are tickets aren't selling out or laughing at other posters who paid top dollar for tickets only to have the prices drop later. I don't recall ANYONE laughing about the poor sales of some of the Buck/Vie dates, or how many of the seats were comped by the casinos they played at, but again, that's the difference between you and other posters here. Shrug all you like, your words are there for everyone to see.

HE WAS FIRED! HUGE DIFFERENCE!! Plus this is a cash grab tour ONLY. We have a right to be mad. TOO BAD.

So? People get fired. Danny Kirwan was fired. He was the creative mastermind at that point and was the only guitarist/songwriter/collaborator that was actually in the band with Peter Green. He got canned, and two albums later, they made one of their best albums ever.

Like it wasn’t going to be a cash grab tour, anyway?

Exactly, the BuckVie album didn't involve backstabbing and included everyone in Fleetwood Mac, save one (most likely a member of the "faction" mentioned later by Lindsey) who chose not to record with them.

I am not seeing Lindsey being impossible to work with due to alcohol and mental instability problems, though. Still waiting for a valid "excuse" from that bunch on why Lindsey Buckingham was fired. Also, I am seriously doubting there will ever be another FM album , let alone TWO :lol::]

And they ain't grabbing anymore of my cash, that's fer sure.

The rare quoting myself …

And that’s why I don’t have a problem with any of this. I want to hear the pre-1975 stuff. But, I don’t want Lindsey to do something so blatant as another cash grab. I expect more from him, but as a fan of the overall body of Fleetwood Mac’s work, I’m okay with this.

ummmm LB always wants to put out new music (hence not a cash grab tour IMO), but someone in the band ONLY wants to do cash grab tours. Lindsey was not happy with them being an oldies act I can tell you that.

LOL It was me that focused on it first. I think bwboy was commenting on me ;)

Yep, I don’t think Lindsey was fired because he has a drinking problem or a mental illness. If that were the case... :rolleyes:

Big difference that I can’t believe still needs to be explained.

I agree!!! Why is it so hard for people who don’t see the difference, to accept that there is a difference this time around?

Heh you are ruining my fun now! I didn’t find anything wrong with your post but couldn’t resist poking bwboy because I knew he’ll lash out in being called what he is - a Stevie fan. He always does, like a clockwork!

(Lol I’ll have to block him now so I don’t have to read insults he’s about to hurl at me next for this post. Happy Monday morning y’all!)

Because they don’t wanna see it?

Or because their favorite got her way so they have to justify it?

Except for Warner's next "Rumours Classic Anniversary Super Reissue" in another ten years time--or sooner. Or maybe they'll get innovative and start issuing CDs commemorating the anniversaries of the reissues.

After reading some of the convoluted justifications for Lindsey's firing in this and other threads, I'm beginning to wonder if some of those defending it might have some sort of drinking problem or a mental illness themselves.:shrug:

Apparently Stevie disagrees.

What would you consider a valid excuse/reason? Seriously, what if they just said “we don’t want to work with him anymore” and that’s all the reason they gave?

Exactly. That’s why I’m happy that he won’t waste his creative energy on a cash grab tour AND I’m happy to hear a few pre-1975 songs. Win-win.

There are always differences in situations. But, a band can fire anyone the want for whatever reason they choose. It’s a rock band. They don’t need just cause.

That's true. Still, the band is pushing a narrative that all of this was very fair and aboveboard. I think most people here are simply reacting against that narrative.

Well he certainly is consistent in his pattern, if nothing else. And he and Buster apparently get free passes on personal attacks...

I agree the narrative is lame, but their narratives have been lame since at least 1997. The current narrative isn’t any dumber than “It just felt like a duo album.”

I was... and I definitely wasn't making a big deal about it, I genuinely was confused as how Lindsey didn't notice Sharon was on the stage with him, that's all.

The remaining four members had lots of shopping to do.

The bags of money won’t spend themselves.

Then why didn't they tell the truth in the first place? It could have been so easy. And yet....

See, I had said: I am not seeing Lindsey being impossible to work with due to alcohol and mental instability problems, though, which was then the given reason for the firing of Danny Kirwan.

Lindsey being impossible to work with according to Ms. Nicks is a reason to fire him, how? What is she, a kindergartner?
I would hope we do not live in such a callous world where from one day to the next your near and dear long time colleagues or friends or business partners and co-creators go" I don't want to work with you nemore, BYYYYEEE!"

If they come out with: " We cannot work with Mr. Buckingham anymore because: he should be in rehab due to his habitual 5 pints of Tequila a day/ his constant threatening us concrete bodily harm by bringing pistols to the studio and aiming them at us/he has a contagious skin disease and refuses to wear clothing/ ANYTHING valid!

Scheduling conflicts can always be worked out-- Mz. Nicks there sure has been the cause of such on plenty of occasions.
Just saying "cause we don't like you no more" smacks of two year olds.

That kindergarten level of functioning also, imho, holds for your statement that "they are a rockband and can fire whomever for whatever reason they choose."

They are a Business. With people with 30-year or more, tenure, contracts, and commitment. They are not a playground random bunch who take the ball home.
BUT! Seems I am wrong, and really, that is EXACTLY what they are. :laugh::lol:

Hence! have fun with them, those who still want to, but do not come blame those of us who are stunned and deeply shocked by the level of immaturity displayed, I'd say.