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elle 06-26-2017 04:16 PM

DC (Wolf Trap) show tonight!
 
starting a thread before getting on the beltway... post away!

jbrownsjr 06-26-2017 04:44 PM

Hope the weather is good for you!

lennonfan 06-26-2017 05:56 PM

the weather tonight is fab in these parts.

bwboy 06-26-2017 06:20 PM

Anxiously awaiting your review, Elle! And everyone else's who goes to the show!

button-lip 06-26-2017 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1212833)
starting a thread before getting on the beltway... post away!

Waiting for your vids on Periscope! :blob2:

jbrownsjr 06-26-2017 08:54 PM

I'm just waiting around the corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrner

button-lip 06-26-2017 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1212854)
I'm just waiting around the corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrner

Did you buy your ticket for the LA concert?

After I saw the NYC and LA dates, I started wondering if maybe it was better for me to attend any of those shows, but "fortunately" for me it was impossible to combine Classic East with NYC BuckVie concert or Classic West with LA BuckVie concert.

So, I'm happy with my choices. :woohoo:

elle 06-27-2017 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1212834)
Hope the weather is good for you!

thanks - yeah the weather here was just gorgeous today!

i'm uploading on youtube, unfortunately very all my vids are very whited out, but there are some great closeups if you make it through all the overexposed parts.










elle 06-27-2017 02:07 AM



elle 06-27-2017 03:14 AM

bits and pieces
 


Sleeping Around The Corner
Hold Me
Too Far Gone
In My World
Shut Us Down

BLY 06-27-2017 07:19 AM

Elle, thanks for the great videos and pics.....I'm really looking forward to the Philly show on Friday!

sue 06-27-2017 07:25 AM

Further thanks, Elle.....
Especially from the UK, where as it stands at the moment, we won't
be seeing them live.
Super photos....

jbrownsjr 06-27-2017 07:40 AM

I can actually hear Christine sing and play keys in your vids. :nod:

AlexD 06-27-2017 09:10 AM

Still not exactly sure why Lindsey isn't actually playing guitar on Love is Here to Stay

HomerMcvie 06-27-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1212879)
I can actually hear Christine sing and play keys in your vids. :nod:

Are you sure she's actually playing?

Hold Me drives me crazy...as much as I LOVE that song, I hate it dropped from D to B!!!

jeets2000 06-27-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1212882)
Still not exactly sure why Lindsey isn't actually playing guitar on Love is Here to Stay

He's not...?

jeets2000 06-27-2017 10:27 AM

Just catching up now, but I was lucky enough to attend the Raleigh show (was up front dead center in the pit... sorry Elle, didn't know you were there or I would have tried to introduce myself!) and the show last night in Virginia. Both great shows, but very different in terms of audience/vibe, I thought.

The VA crowd seemed much larger and, thanks to the venue, you could really hear both the band and the crowd reaction very well. There were a few times Lindsey looked at Chris with kind of big eyes after a song ended and the crowd was going nuts, which was cool. My biggest complaint is that everybody sat for the whole show until GYOW. I was in row D and stood during Tusk (c'mon people, live a little).

Overall, a great couple of shows. I enjoyed my experience in Raleigh more because I was right up front (Chris waved to me, and I died), but the sound at Wolf Trap was incredible. :thumbsup:

jbrownsjr 06-27-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1212884)
Are you sure she's actually playing?

Hold Me drives me crazy...as much as I LOVE that song, I hate it dropped from D to B!!!

Yes, because I saw Brett doing padded synth. (I'm 90% sure) but i have bad eyes, lately :( Eye sight is going.

HomerMcvie 06-27-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1212887)
Yes, because I saw Brett doing padded synth. (I'm 90% sure) but i have bad eyes, lately :( Eye sight is going.

Just because he was playing, doesn't mean that she was, right?

I would post Hold Me(the only song I videoed in it's entirety), but some idiot :o is singing along, the entire time. So I WON'T.

Didn't your Mama warn you? Yeah, I didn't listen, either...:lol:

jbrownsjr 06-27-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1212891)
Just because he was playing, doesn't mean that she was, right?

I would post Hold Me(the only song I videoed in it's entirety), but some idiot :o is singing along, the entire time. So I WON'T.

Didn't your Mama warn you? Yeah, I didn't listen, either...:lol:

When Christine is really playing, her concentration shows on her face. I saw that, too. Leave my mama out of this!

elle 06-27-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1212893)
When Christine is really playing, her concentration shows on her face. I saw that, too. Leave my mama out of this!

also, at the end of Hold Me yesterday, when there's that little keyboard part, he looks at her with the smile and gives her a little nod and a thumbs-up encouraging look like "yay you are doing it girl!" it was cute.

HomerMcvie 06-27-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1212893)
When Christine is really playing, her concentration shows on her face. I saw that, too. Leave my mama out of this!

She's my Mama too, biotch!!!!

button-lip 06-27-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1212896)
She's my Mama too, biotch!!!!

Thank God my mama is Stevie! And I don't share her with any crazy fan! :angel::woohoo:

HomerMcvie 06-27-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by button-lip (Post 1212897)
Thank God my mama is Stevie! And I don't share her with any crazy fan! :angel::woohoo:

Go ahead with your selfish self!

Really, go ahead!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

button-lip 06-27-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1212898)
Go ahead with your selfish self!

Really, go ahead!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I just wanna be like her when I grow up. Oh, and like you! :thumbsup: :nod:

AlexD 06-27-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jeets2000 (Post 1212885)
He's not...?

No, not until the outro solo. The main guitar part is definitely pre recorded. You can tell for a few reasons

1. The guitar part sounds completely identical to how it does on the album
2. A few times in videos you can see he puts his hand at the wrong place on the guitar neck and it keeps playing with no mistake

It has something to do with the way the right hand picking is. You can't play the song exactly the way it is on the album live. You can get so close that 99.9% of the audience wouldn't know the difference, but for some reason he isn't playing it himself

elle 06-27-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1212903)
No, not until the outro solo. The main guitar part is definitely pre recorded. You can tell for a few reasons

1. The guitar part sounds completely identical to how it does on the album
2. A few times in videos you can see he puts his hand at the wrong place on the guitar neck and it keeps playing with no mistake

It has something to do with the way the right hand picking is. You can't play the song exactly the way it is on the album live. You can get so close that 99.9% of the audience wouldn't know the difference, but for some reason he isn't playing it himself

yeah he's not playing the bulk of it. this is the first tour i've seen him on where he's not really playing these picking songs... wonder whether arthritis or some other age-related problem caught up with him? he's been extremely lucky for a long time to be able to pluck and pick like he's been doing. i mean during OMS in 2012 he was doing Rock Away Blind by request, off the cuff.

secondhandchain 06-27-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1212906)
yeah he's not playing the bulk of it. this is the first tour i've seen him on where he's not really playing these picking songs... wonder whether arthritis or some other age-related problem caught up with him? he's been extremely lucky for a long time to be able to pluck and pick like he's been doing. i mean during OMS in 2012 he was doing Rock Away Blind by request, off the cuff.

Well that's just depressing. If Big Love is retired for good we will know for sure. I saw FM last tour and that was the last time for me. Going to see these two in LA and that will be my farewell to seeing FM show.

jeets2000 06-27-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1212906)
yeah he's not playing the bulk of it. this is the first tour i've seen him on where he's not really playing these picking songs... wonder whether arthritis or some other age-related problem caught up with him? he's been extremely lucky for a long time to be able to pluck and pick like he's been doing. i mean during OMS in 2012 he was doing Rock Away Blind by request, off the cuff.

So, he's not playing (some of) those intro songs (Trouble, NGBA, Shut Us Down, etc.) either? Really? It would surprise (and sadden) me if this were a wider phenomenon than LIHTS.

bombaysaffires 06-27-2017 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeets2000 (Post 1212909)
So, he's not playing (some of) those intro songs (Trouble, NGBA, Shut Us Down, etc.) either? Really? It would surprise (and sadden) me if this were a wider phenomenon than LIHTS.

it would sadden me also......

It sounds from folks that he IS playing on NGBA and Trouble ....??

elle 06-27-2017 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jeets2000 (Post 1212909)
So, he's not playing (some of) those intro songs (Trouble, NGBA, Shut Us Down, etc.) either? Really? It would surprise (and sadden) me if this were a wider phenomenon than LIHTS.

no pretty sure he's playing those. there's really no reason to do NGBA or SUD if he's not playing them.

AlexD 06-27-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jeets2000 (Post 1212909)
So, he's not playing (some of) those intro songs (Trouble, NGBA, Shut Us Down, etc.) either? Really? It would surprise (and sadden) me if this were a wider phenomenon than LIHTS.

Those songs he actually plays for sure. LIHTS is the only song I've noticed his whole career where the guitar part is totally canned. Like I said, it's just something with the picking and how the song can't properly be imitated live

HomerMcvie 06-27-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1212903)
No, not until the outro solo. The main guitar part is definitely pre recorded. You can tell for a few reasons

1. The guitar part sounds completely identical to how it does on the album
2. A few times in videos you can see he puts his hand at the wrong place on the guitar neck and it keeps playing with no mistake

It has something to do with the way the right hand picking is. You can't play the song exactly the way it is on the album live. You can get so close that 99.9% of the audience wouldn't know the difference, but for some reason he isn't playing it himself

OH!!! I did forget to report(I'm sure others have noticed) that he was playing with a pick on the last two songs of the show! He may have been before that, but I hadn't pushed up front(to give Chris her roses) until the encores(and gain the side vantage point). That's when I noticed.

elle 06-27-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1212920)
Those songs he actually plays for sure. LIHTS is the only song I've noticed his whole career where the guitar part is totally canned. Like I said, it's just something with the picking and how the song can't properly be imitated live

but the thing is - it can, he normally could do much more than that. did you ever hear him do Red Rover at that soundcheck or Rock Away Blind, or yes, BL, or even BTLH last year? there's something going on why he has a problem now with fast picking. hope whatever it is, it gets better fast!

elle 06-27-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1212922)
OH!!! I did forget to report(I'm sure others have noticed) that he was playing with a pick on the last two songs of the show! He may have been before that, but I hadn't pushed up front(to give Chris her roses) until the encores(and gain the side vantage point). That's when I noticed.

yeah i noticed that yesterday. but he always plays some songs with the pick. i think when he was doing original Go Insane on Unleashed and GOS tours he was playing it with the pick. i think Without You or another song on 2013 tour he played with the pick too.

AlexD 06-27-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1212926)
but the thing is - it can, he normally could do much more than that. did you ever hear him do Red Rover at that soundcheck or Rock Away Blind, or yes, BL, or even BTLH last year? there's something going on why he has a problem now with fast picking. hope whatever it is, it gets better fast!

Shut Us Down is 100x more difficult on the hand than LIHTS so it's kind of odd to me. I'm not sure how to explain it, but the way each guitar lick In LIHTS doubles up on the last note can't really be played live the same way it is on the record. The way he's "playing" it with his right hand sounds wrong if you actually pick up a guitar and play it that way. Sorry that might not make that much sense, but I don't really know what other way to put it over text.

AlexD 06-27-2017 04:15 PM

Brian Larsen has a video on his insatgram of him playing it. The way he plays it isn't exactly like the album, but it's how Lindsey should do it live instead of just canning it

ViscountViktor 06-27-2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1212884)
Are you sure she's actually playing?

Hold Me drives me crazy...as much as I LOVE that song, I hate it dropped from D to B!!!

She's struggling to hit notes even in that key.

I hope it is Christine playing the piano part.

ViscountViktor 06-27-2017 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1212903)
No, not until the outro solo. The main guitar part is definitely pre recorded. You can tell for a few reasons

1. The guitar part sounds completely identical to how it does on the album
2. A few times in videos you can see he puts his hand at the wrong place on the guitar neck and it keeps playing with no mistake

It has something to do with the way the right hand picking is. You can't play the song exactly the way it is on the album live. You can get so close that 99.9% of the audience wouldn't know the difference, but for some reason he isn't playing it himself

This is very disappointing. He was playing Big Love live on the last FM tour, surely that's harder?

HomerMcvie 06-28-2017 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ViscountViktor (Post 1212934)
She's struggling to hit notes even in that key.

I hope it is Christine playing the piano part.

On Friday, I thought she was playing it. Then someone else posted that they thought she wasn't, so now I'm not sure.

OKAY, I'm 98% sure she's not playing it. Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j74ICrp_UOY

Firstly, other than Jimmy giving the tempo, there's NO reason for him to count off the song, other than if they were playing with a track. Him giving 4 clicks to start the song tells me that it's a track we're hearing.

Secondly, notice her left hand adjusting her hair, WHILE SHE'S supposedly playing the intro. Her left hand should be playing either a F#m>E chord progression, or at least F#>E bass notes. But she's adjusting her hair...

Your Honor, I rest my case... Karaoke.:o


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