Mick Fleetwood Says New Album Without Stevie Nicks Will Win Awards
 

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Mick Fleetwood Says New Album Without Stevie Nicks Will Win Awards
By Martin Kielty March 21, 2017 9:40 AM

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Mick Fleetwood believes that the upcoming Fleetwood Mac spin-off album, which features the whole band except Stevie Nicks, is good enough to win awards.

The LP is to be released in the summer under the banner of Buckingham McVie, since it consists of songs written by Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie. However, it also features Fleetwood and bassist John McVie, after singer Nicks arranged a solo schedule and declared herself unwilling to participate in further recording with Fleetwood Mac.

“The crafting of the album became so specifically about Chris and Lindsey some time ago,” Fleetwood told Uncut. “It came under the heading of music that had to come out. Chris is full of vim and vigor, which is mind-blowing, and I’m really happy for Lindsey, because this is what he most likes to do – putting something together.

“This relationship is a real expression of a musical powerhouse that’s come to the fore, and we’re all happy about that,” he added. “It’s really cool. I think they’ll be walking down some red carpets with this one.”

Buckingham said he’s grown since the last time he worked with McVie. “I realized I’m a completely different person,” he said. “I’m a father of three children, I’ve been married almost 20 years. I’ve had my journey, and Christine has had her own journey.”

McVie returned to Fleetwood Mac in 2014 after a handful of earlier guest appearances on stage convinced her to rethink her retirement, which had begun in 1998. The band had started work on a record together before Nicks decided she didn’t want to take part. “It’s an umbilical cord that can’t be broken,” McVie said. “It just pulls you back.”

But Nicks plans to return in time for a road trip next year. “The 2018 tour is supposed to be a farewell – but you take farewell tours one at a time,” McVie noted. “Somehow we always come together, this unit. We can feel it ourselves.”


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this is just pulled together excerpts, really, and if it's already posted then mods feel free to merge.

I honestly feel this was a big "F*ck You" to Stevie and I'm cool with it. I love her, but she let a lot of us down.

I don't think this was a "F*ck You" any more than I think she ever "held them hostage" (oh, how I got sick of that phrase). She was offered a chance to participate; she chose not to; they made a record without her. Adults making their own decisions based on what they think is best for them.

Exactly and right on point. I still wish it was under the Fleetwood Mac name considering it was Stevie's decision not to record.

Someone get Lindsey some smelling salts! Worlds are colliding. The big machine is trying to horn in on potential future kudos for the small machine.

Really, Mick must have his panties in a bunch or something. Lindsey has done some great, sometimes groundbreaking solo stuff and never walked the carpet so...years later, when he still has a relatively small following for his solo stuff (in comparison to the Old Big Machine), I doubt anyone is going to recognize him in that Red Carpet way. Should they? Yes. Will they? I doubt it.

And, Mick will be all kumbaya-ing with Stevie when the ink is signed on the contracts for the next tour, I'm sure.

That's the part that I find astounding. They fought for years for ownership of the Fleetwood Mac name, and it cost them a lot of money, so to not use it on this album seems crazy.

This quote is a few weeks old now and has been posted here a lot. That being said, he said that about Say You will as well. But I pray he's right! If they get a grammy nod that will be a big FU to Stevie. She loves the spotlight more then anything and that will drive her NUTS!
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The title is great :thumbsup:

If you read twitter or any of the chiffon pages on FB.
(Elle pointed this out to me re: the Twitter stuff.)

The chiffons and and shippers have gone angry!! I mean off the charts.
Lots of the anger is directed at Christine and some at Lindsey. I guess Christine is the other woman and she got to rest for 16 years and now; she has the nerve to come back and take Stevie's spot.

I read one comment that said, "How dare they not wait for Stevie to finish her tour. They waited for Christine!!!"

These people are nuts!!

Having said that, I just hope it's a great album and tour. They sound so excited to be viable artists creating in today's market. I love their attitudes about the music and toward each other.
My acting teacher told me, if you keep doing the same gig over and over, you'll start to hate your art.

Are we allowed to say this? Seems like a whole bunch of people won't like it. Be careful, my friend. :angel:

Everyone on the twitters I follow, and I follow plenty as well some instagrams, is perfectly sane :shrug:
Maybe it's the odd 1 or 2 over the top people you're talking about but everyone I know of is fine, whether they're 'chiffons' or 'shippers', they even make a good few jokes about it.

It is 1 or 2 or 3. But the venom is astounding. However, I will say that even though the subject matter is BuckVie or McBuck, they come into the thread and just start popping off about how angry they are about the new album, or how much of a failure the rest of the band is without Stevie. Or HOW DARE THEY CALL IT BUCKINGHAM/MCVIE it will hurt Stevie's feelings. I think it's kind of funny, but insane nonetheless.

Blame Elle, she had me reading the twitter. But the FB pages, I did all on my own. I don't comment because it's one flew over the cuckoo's nest over there.

As much as we fight sometimes over here, we are mostly a sane bunch.


As for you Homer.. better me say it than you. I don't need goatbreath in every sentence. :lol:

Yeah there's always gonna be the few that are over the top, but it's pretty nice to see that most everyone is pretty fine about the whole thing.

I don't join any FB groups though. I heard people talk about the Ivory Keys one that posts all the demos and everything I think those that run it need a couple xanax.

^^^ I actually took screen shots of some of them. I'll post them later.

one reads

"Buckingham/McVie??? Really??? They can be named Fleetwood Mac or 'whatever the f***!! But Buckingham/McVie?? It's like they are plaing a game: How make make more and more upset Stevie Nicks and make it so she decides not to come back."

lol well there's always people like that anywhere you go but i can assure you i check plenty of FM/Stevie twitters and they're fine. some of them were photoshopping christine's head over stevie's body on the BN album cover, i saw somebody's edit (and this person would probably be considered a 'chiffon') got a lot of retweets actually :lol:

I can understand the desire to post "insane" tweets and Facebook comments in order to point and laugh; I do hope that we all can refrain from implying that they are representative of Stevie fans and/or Buckingham Nicks fans in general.

You got me OGB, yeah you know me.

Ever since that popped into my head this morning, I've been chanting it all day (wishing it would leave).

IA with this.

I'm excited for Buckingham McVie; I hope it does well. I guess I too am what many would consider a "Chiffonhead" and I will love and support Stevie until the day I die. What I don't understand is why can't we hope that Buckingham McVie wins awards without also hoping it's a dig against Stevie. The members of Fleetwood Mac seem to be content with their own respective projects, why can't the fans as well. This really seems like a win-win situation to me. Lindsey and Chris get to make and promote an album, and Stevie gets to continue doing what she loves with her critically acclaimed solo tour. Then they will probably all get back together for a Fleetwood Mac tour. I love all members of this band, and I want to see them all successful and happy, however that may be.

I saw that.. :lol:

Agreed, 24karatstevie. Why assume that Mick's complimenting of Lindsey and Christine's work is necessarily an insult to Stevie? Didn't he just attend one of her concerts and praise her work as well?

It was how the title was worded. Very click bait-y. If you read the actual thing, it sounded perfectly fine within context but most people never actually read the thing.

Isn't this just a cut and paste from a previous article?

Yes. I haven't heard any crazy rants on twitter regarding this. As you said, there may be an odd 1 or 2 over the top, pot-stirrers, but I haven't come across any.
Most "chiffon heads" I know could care less that Buckingham McVie are doing their own thing. A lot of them are happy about it as it frees up Stevie to add tour dates or record another solo project. :shrug:
I was thinking more about why this project wasn't just called Fleetwood Mac ... it's probably the record execs. I doubt an of the band members would care if they called it a Fleetwood Mac record.
I'm happy for you all that this is happening though. :thumbsup:

Jamie

I won't hold my breath for any awards. I don't care about sales either. But I do hope it gets good critical reviews. That's what I will consider important.

Michele

It's very interesting that FM still thrives on drama, including many fans. I think most of the drama currently going on is happening more online with fans than between the actual members of the band, to be honest.

that is most likely very true.

It's all rumours.

I'll be totally honest about the whole thing. I'm excited for this album. Those two with Mick and John should sound like vintage Mac. Anything similar to Tango and I will love it. However. I'm so gutted that Stevie won't be on it. They need her voice in the mix. Just listen to Little Lies. When she comes in the chorus with "Tell me lies" it gives me chills.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to it nonetheless.

I'm with you on this James89!

I'm glad you're into it! I'm over the Stevie part.

In 2014 I was thinking Magic 5 Tour w/ new album. All 5 record the album followed by a World Tour. And I couldn't imagine her not wanting to do that with her old bandmate Christine. It did break my heart a bit that she didn't record with them.

Nowadays, I'm so glad she's not there and didn't record with them. I let go.
The music will be about the duet. And as they say, a splinter of the group. It should be interesting. I almost wish and hope John and Mick are only on parts of the album.

This puzzled me at first because I think music critics are almost as bad as film critics, but it did remind me how all the reviews for SYW commented on how it just isn't Mac without Christine. (Probably similar to Behind the Mask and The Time). Sooooooo, I the challenge is if critics will say: "Nicks' presence is missed." And, frankly, how can it not be? But it would be too bad if that's the critical line on this release. Christine, after all, was a SIGNIFYING absence on SYW. Among other wonders that album provides.

I agree, James.
I am looking forward to the new music.
But, I will miss Stevie's voice and Stevie songs.....and that's just how it is.

I don't see how anyone can comment on Stevie being missed when it isn't even a Fleetwood Mac album. You wouldn't claim 'Stevie is missed' when referring to a Lindsey or Christine solo album. A person cant be missed if its a new entity. As for Say You Will- Lindsey and Stevie really were polar opposites in many ways- musically, they've moved away from each other so much since Buckingham Nicks. Christine really was missed as the bridge in-between them. Chris and Lindsey are more of a natural fit together.
Of course Stevie will be missed- we all would prefer a full Fleetwood Mac album. However, I feel sure that wont be the be all and end all as far as the critics are concerned. I think all the evidence we have of them working together in the past really bodes well for something that could be special and garner real critical acclaim.

anyone who's p$ssed Stevie isn't on the album should look to the source--Stevie herself. She's more focused on solidifying her personal fame and status as a legend... as Chris noted, Stevie is a "brand" by this point in her career... and she's, as Chris also noted, "self obsessed" about it. Let's face it, there aren't many (are there any others??) female rockers about 70 who are out there still filling venues... (even tho really she wouldn't fill them without the double bills). That's her focus now.

The rest of us are disappointed, which is a different thing.We're willing to take what we can get while it's still possible to get anything at all......

Cher is way over 70. Tina Turner is almost 80 but I think she's been retired the last few years.
Not a rocker but Dolly is more than filling arenas and headlined Glasto last year.

Isn't Joan Jett touring arenas right about now?

yeah, maybe it's just me but I don't think of Cher as a rocker. I like her; but I t think of her as a Vegas act for whatever reason, probably because she was doing big Vegas shows decades before any real rockers. :shrug:

Tina stopped touring quite a while ago.

Dolly for sure.

Joan is selling out arenas?? It must be a double or triple bill :shrug:

The only one I can think of on top of my head is maybe Patti Smith?

Yes, Sonny and Cher started doing Vegas shows even before they got their tv show. And Cher has never stopped doing them since, as a solo.

Ha ha, but I will classify her punkish version of Sonny's Bang Bang as a rock song.

And let me take a moment and praise Needles and Pins, while I'm here. I am proud of my guy, even though if he'd have lived, given the climate these days, I'd probably wish he would ski into a tree.

Michele