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Roxy 01-23-2017 11:13 PM

Unpopular Fleetwood Mac opinions
 
All apologies if a thread like this already exists!
I feel like I'm one of the few people who actually loved Sweet Girl and Temporary One and would've loved to see them on Say You Will.

Angel75 01-24-2017 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Roxy (Post 1200420)
All apologies if a thread like this already exists!
I feel like I'm one of the few people who actually loved Sweet Girl and Temporary One and would've loved to see them on Say You Will.

No I am with you and like them both... Lyrically especially.
Obviously without Christine Temporary One probably couldnt have been on Say You Will but Sweet Girl would have been a great swap for Silver Girl.

My unpopular opinion is despite the guitar genisness (is that a word?!) of this song which is love, I hate Big Love LIVE as the sexual grunting makes me cringe from a >65year old man. With it being LB's fav song to perform live I think we're stuck with it.....

SteveMacD 01-24-2017 02:35 AM

I like "Easy Come, Easy Go", and think it would have made a great Fleetwood Mac song.

jbrownsjr 01-24-2017 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1200426)
I like "Easy Come, Easy Go", and think it would have made a great Fleetwood Mac song.

It's grown on me. I think the pacing is too slow. LB would have sped it up. The arrangement is really cool. Good job Christine.

pattyfan 01-24-2017 09:43 AM

Here is mine. I have never liked I'm So Afraid, especially live. The solo feels interminable. (ducks flying dishes...).

Kevin

singertobe 01-24-2017 10:56 AM

I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion but based on the FM fanfics I've read I think it might be.:shrug:

I love Kristen. I think she's perfect for Lindsey and I really hate it when people say he only married her cuz of Will. I mean, can you imagine how that must make the poor kid feel? People really need to mind their own business when it comes to this type of stuff.

Oh, and I also love Kristen's interior design projects.

jbrownsjr 01-24-2017 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by singertobe (Post 1200442)
I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion but based on the FM fanfics I've read I think it might be.:shrug:

I love Kristen. I think she's perfect for Lindsey and I really hate it when people say he only married her cuz of Will. I mean, can you imagine how that must make the poor kid feel? People really need to mind their own business when it comes to this type of stuff.

Oh, and I also love Kristen's interior design projects.

You have no idea how bad it got when we were invaded with shippers. It was like politics. They would take any scrap of evidence to prove a thesis that even they didn't really understand. And they would attack anyone that disagreed. Even band members, etc.

singertobe 01-24-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1200443)
You have no idea how bad it got when we were invaded with shippers. It was like politics. They would take any scrap of evidence to prove a thesis that even they didn't really understand. And they would attack anyone that disagreed. Even band members, etc.

Wow! Are they still on the site? I haven't seen them here but they seem to abound on wattpad:shrug:

jbrownsjr 01-24-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by singertobe (Post 1200447)
Wow! Are they still on the site? I haven't seen them here but they seem to abound on wattpad:shrug:

They have moved on to shipping other people in other bands. It doesn't take much to distract them.

singertobe 01-24-2017 01:54 PM

Here's another one. I HATE the dress Stevie wore in the Live in Boston show. Both of them. In my honest opinion, I think they look SO unflattering. She would've looked much better in the dress she wore for the Dance. Speaking of which, why doesn't she wear that one anymore? Its gorgeous!

louielouie2000 01-24-2017 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by singertobe (Post 1200458)
Here's another one. I HATE the dress Stevie wore in the Live in Boston show. Both of them. In my honest opinion, I think they look SO unflattering. She would've looked much better in the dress she wore for the Dance. Speaking of which, why doesn't she wear that one anymore? Its gorgeous!

Ahh, the Italian Widow Dress & associated Granny Cardigan. Those were truly a low point for her personal style. :p

singertobe 01-24-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1200459)
Ahh, the Italian Widow Dress & associated Granny Cardigan. Those were truly a low point for her personal style. :p

I know right? What was she thinking?

jbrownsjr 01-24-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1200459)
Ahh, the Italian Widow Dress & associated Granny Cardigan. Those were truly a low point for her personal style. :p

I loved Christine's red outfit for the Dance. Beautiful

JohnL 01-24-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by singertobe (Post 1200460)
I know right? What was she thinking?

Wasn't there an interview with Stevie somewhere saying that the dress and cardigan were part of a request from Lindsey for her to tone it down? Something about sharing the spotlight since it was just the two of them now. I swear I read that somewhere. That just isn't her style as we all know.

dreamsunwind 01-24-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1200467)
Wasn't there an interview with Stevie somewhere saying that the dress and cardigan were part of a request from Lindsey for her to tone it down? Something about sharing the spotlight since it was just the two of them now. I swear I read that somewhere. That just isn't her style as we all know.

She wore it outside of Fleetwood Mac too though. And idk it just seems weird to me that when they were in their 50s, then Lindsey decided to ask her to "tone it down".

jbrownsjr 01-24-2017 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1200470)
She wore it outside of Fleetwood Mac too though. And idk it just seems weird to me that when they were in their 50s, then Lindsey decided to ask her to "tone it down".

It's always his fault. ;)

HomerMcvie 01-24-2017 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1200471)
It's always his fault. ;)

Was there ever any doubt? Just axe Stevie...

singertobe 01-24-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1200467)
Wasn't there an interview with Stevie somewhere saying that the dress and cardigan were part of a request from Lindsey for her to tone it down? Something about sharing the spotlight since it was just the two of them now. I swear I read that somewhere. That just isn't her style as we all know.

She should've told Lindsey to... (finish it)

louielouie2000 01-24-2017 04:24 PM

I love Mystified. I think it's one of the most atmospheric songs Christine ever recorded.

singertobe 01-24-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1200481)
I love Mystified. I think it's one of the most atmospheric songs Christine ever recorded.

Oh that IS a good song

jbrownsjr 01-24-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1200481)
I love Mystified. I think it's one of the most atmospheric songs Christine ever recorded.

I can't shut it off, once it starts. :nod:

Angel75 01-24-2017 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pattyfan (Post 1200435)
Here is mine. I have never liked I'm So Afraid, especially live. The solo feels interminable. (ducks flying dishes...).

Kevin

I agree, have never liked it. I do try to enjoy it but I can't seem to make myself.

Angel75 01-24-2017 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1200481)
I love Mystified. I think it's one of the most atmospheric songs Christine ever recorded.

LB and CM's harmonies at their very best. I love it too.

michelej1 01-24-2017 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1200470)
She wore it outside of Fleetwood Mac too though. And idk it just seems weird to me that when they were in their 50s, then Lindsey decided to ask her to "tone it down".

She wore it to a presentation for Tom Petty, as well. That was her go to outfit, just like the peep shoulder top is her thing right now.

Yes, she said Lindsey told her to tone it down, but if you listen to her, he's been saying that since the seventies and she never did it.

aleuzzi 01-24-2017 11:23 PM

1. "Honey Hi" is not only one of the finest moments on Tusk but one of the finest moments in the band's history.

2. Kiln House, Then Play On, and Fleetwood Mac (1975) constitute the peak of the band's recorded music.

3. Time is not a bad record. It isn't amazing but more than half of the record is quite listenable and well-executed.

4. "Oh Daddy" is as iconic, in its own way, as "Rhiannon."

5. "Silver Springs" was rightly kept off Rumours and "I Don't Wanna Know" was a more suitable fit in the context of the record.

6. The new songs on The Dance, as well as those songs that got updated treatments, are the best of the show.

7. "Imperial Hotel" is by far and away the best song on Rock a Little.

dreamsunwind 01-25-2017 12:04 AM

Lindsey either needs to go back to the original speed of the song or the live in Boston speed which I really liked or just completely stop doing Never Going Back Again live. I hate this super super slowed down whisper thing he's doing with it, he's literally butchering his own classic.


Stevie has permanently damaged her voice so much sometimes it's hard to listen to certain performances. The endings of all the recent live Rhiannons make me cringe.

A lot of Christine's songs are boring live. Little Lies in particular does not translate well outside the studio, except for the chorus.

I think the reason a lot of Lindsey's longer solos borrow from each other is because although he is brilliant musically, he's not Clapton when it comes to soloing skills.

jbrownsjr 01-25-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1200517)
1. "Honey Hi" is not only one of the finest moments on Tusk but one of the finest moments in the band's history.

2. Kiln House, Then Play On, and Fleetwood Mac (1975) constitute the peak of the band's recorded music.

3. Time is not a bad record. It isn't amazing but more than half of the record is quite listenable and well-executed.

4. "Oh Daddy" is as iconic, in its own way, as "Rhiannon."

5. "Silver Springs" was rightly kept off Rumours and "I Don't Wanna Know" was a more suitable fit in the context of the record.

6. The new songs on The Dance, as well as those songs that got updated treatments, are the best of the show.

7. "Imperial Hotel" is by far and away the best song on Rock a Little.

I love Imperial Hotel! But Tony, I hate to see you this way.,

jbrownsjr 01-25-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1200517)
1. "Honey Hi" is not only one of the finest moments on Tusk but one of the finest moments in the band's history.

2. Kiln House, Then Play On, and Fleetwood Mac (1975) constitute the peak of the band's recorded music.

3. Time is not a bad record. It isn't amazing but more than half of the record is quite listenable and well-executed.

4. "Oh Daddy" is as iconic, in its own way, as "Rhiannon."

5. "Silver Springs" was rightly kept off Rumours and "I Don't Wanna Know" was a more suitable fit in the context of the record.

6. The new songs on The Dance, as well as those songs that got updated treatments, are the best of the show.

7. "Imperial Hotel" is by far and away the best song on Rock a Little.

I also love Some Become Strangers... great song!

singertobe 01-25-2017 10:11 AM

I prefer the demo version of Without You. I don't like the constant uh's and yeah's in the FM version.:sorry:

jbrownsjr 01-25-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by singertobe (Post 1200544)
I prefer the demo version of Without You. I don't like the constant uh's and yeah's in the FM version.:sorry:

listening to it now! i love their voices on the demo!!

WatchChain 01-25-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1200517)
1. "Honey Hi" is not only one of the finest moments on Tusk but one of the finest moments in the band's history.

4. "Oh Daddy" is as iconic, in its own way, as "Rhiannon."

5. "Silver Springs" was rightly kept off Rumours and "I Don't Wanna Know" was a more suitable fit in the context of the record.

I love your analysis! I've always thought that the three part harmony vocals on "Honey Hi" are one of the top 5 moments in the band's entire catalog.

You analysis of "Oh Daddy" is equally true. There was an outtake from "Rumours" that featured a harmony vocal from Stevie on "Oh Daddy" that I though should have made the record.

"Rumours", in its original format, remains the PERFECT record and "I Don't Want To Know" fits perfectly within the context. I know it's not a popular opinion, BUT, "I Don't Want To Know" is a deliciously FUN song and it should be kept on "Rumours".

"Silver Springs" is an equally fantastic tune, but I think it would fit better on The White Album (1975).

WatchChain 01-25-2017 09:32 PM

UNPOPULAR OPINIONS-

"Tango In The Night" is the weakest album from the Buckingham/Nicks era of the band. "Mirage" is the most underrated Fleetwood Mac album.

This same lineup of the band has essentially produced a trilogy of near perfect albums:

1) Fleetwood Mac (1975)
2) Rumours (1977)
3) Tusk (1977)

All subsequent (post 1980) Fleetwood Mac albums have fallen short of living up to the artistic merit of this aforementioned trilogy. Try as they may, this band has been unable to recreate on record the creative magic that existed from 1975-1980.

bwboy 01-25-2017 10:44 PM

Behind the Mask is a great album. And Rick and Billy did a great job keeping the Mac going on tour. If nothing else, we got the absolutely beautiful song As Long As You Follow during that era, and that alone makes it all worthwhile!

aleuzzi 01-25-2017 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1200542)
I also love Some Become Strangers... great song!

Yeah--it's the lesser-known songs that survive on that record.

SteveMacD 01-26-2017 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1200620)
Behind the Mask is a great album. And Rick and Billy did a great job keeping the Mac going on tour. If nothing else, we got the absolutely beautiful song As Long As You Follow during that era, and that alone makes it all worthwhile!

I don't think Billy and Rick were necessarily the problem with that album. They certainly had better songs than what made the album. I think there was a decision to focus mainly on the girl at the expense of developing that lineup, which was problematic since their songs weren't strong enough to carry the album. The other issue was bad production. They should have gotten Ken to produce them. Here's what I think the track listing should have been:

Skies The Limit
Victim of Love
Intuition
Freedom
Save Me
In the Back of My Mind
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Behind the Mask
Love is Dangerous
Do You Know
Ain't Got No Home
Affairs of the Heart
When the Sun Goes Down
Game of Love

Roxy 01-26-2017 12:58 AM

I've always thought Time was a better album than Behind The Mask. If you take away Dave Mason's songs and perhaps adjust the track listing, it'd be a perfect album to me.

SteveMacD 01-26-2017 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Roxy (Post 1200625)
I've always thought Time was a better album than Behind The Mask. If you take away Dave Mason's songs and perhaps adjust the track listing, it'd be a perfect album to me.

I'd get behind that. I'd also pare down "Hollywood" and "Sooner or Later" which tend to drag on.

Justin Reach 01-26-2017 05:45 AM

Only Over You has become my favourite FM track of all time.

Frankenstein 01-26-2017 08:32 AM

Smile At You should have been on Mirage instead of Straight Back.

Only Over You is one of my favorite Christine songs.

Running Through The Garden is one of my favorites from SYW.

I thought the EP songs were great.

Stevie should have sung Crystal on the 1975 album instead of Lindsey.

I kind of miss Lindsey's weird stage antics.

Sara from the 1980 Live album puts me to sleep. There are much better performances of that song from that tour.

sue 01-26-2017 10:43 AM

I really do not like the version of "Big Love" Lindsey plays nowadays
in fact I'm not too keen on all of the acoustic section that he does, live..


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