Stevie commented on " Buckingham Mcvie" album
 

http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/ce...-a3442501.html

Stevie Nicks says she does not think Fleetwood Mac will make another album together — because they are “not 40” any more.

The singer, 68, believes the band are more likely to focus on touring and doubts they will ever record a follow-up to 2003’s Say You Will.

She said: “If the five of us were to get together to make a record it would take a year, which is what it always takes us.

"It would be a whole year of recording, then press, then rehearsal, and by the time we got back onto the road, it would be heading towards the second year, and I don’t know whether at this time it’s better for us just to do a big tour.”

The band has sold more than 100 million records and reformed with the classic line-up of Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham, John and Christine McVie and Mick Fleetwood for a world tour, which ended in 2015.

Nicks said: “It’s every single penny we make divided by five, so the expense of making a record, which is huge, and then to get back on tour ... we are not 40.

"We have to take that into consideration — how long can we do tours that are three-hour shows? Would you rather spend a year in the studio or get back on the road? I think that the band would choose to tour.”

Nicks, who is focusing on her solo career, is also reluctant to make new music.

She said: “I don’t write as many songs any more because with the internet, the way that kids listen to music, all the streaming, and the fact that if they’re very savvy, if they want to get it and not pay for it, they can.

"It goes against the grain of our whole belief in, ‘You write a song, you record it, and you put it out there and people should buy it’.

"We realise it’s not our world any more and the younger kids don’t look at it like they’re taking from us... we don’t have the impetus to write 20 songs because we know that unless you’re under 20 you’re not going to sell many records.”

She is not involved with the new album by McVie and Buckingham, which is not a Fleetwood Mac record.
She said: “I’m sure it’s going to be great, because Christine is super-inspired. I’m really happy for them.”

On July 9, Nicks will support her old friend Tom Petty with his band The Heartbreakers at Barclaycard Presents British Summer Time in Hyde Park.

She said: “I’m the girl who always wanted to be in his band and he’s always the one who said, ‘No, no girls allowed.’ There’s just no one else I’d rather be on stage with than Tom.”

She sounds like she is all about money and she is probably the richest of them by far. She also sounds like a curmudgeon. Putting her in a very bad light.

i am not going to any reunion / final /oldies tour I am excited for the Mcvie and Buckingham record but if the 5 of them get together with no new music no way i will spend 5 cents


and in the time she's been Bitching about making a record they did it

Agreed! This is some kinda sad news, and Stevie seems like she has just had it with recording altogether. hopefully she will come around..

I have to agree, I am not too happy about the comments she chose to make in this article--I still love her, but no, it would not have taken a year out of her life to add backing vocals to already completed songs and contribute 2 or 3 new ones--

PS I tried editing my OP to correct the thread title,, I meant to type MCVIE--Not MOVIE LOL It will not let me correct that word :-(

she should keep touring , she will not sustain selling out arena unless she is packaged with someone who can fill half of it for her and FM should bring in Rick and Billy and make a kick ass record then tour with them

She says that Fleetwood Mac isn't going to make a record, but they did... without her input, of course. It's still FM to me.

Well... isn't it physically gruelling for them to continue to tour at their age? Why not enjoy the re-established connection with Christine in the studio? Who cares if it takes a year? So would a world tour, the only difference being the financial implications.

I find this whole lack of Stevie thing the biggest gottdamn shame. God forbid one of them keels over before we either a) get a new album or b) another tour with the 5-some. Very upsetting to think about it. The fact that Chris has returned and any of the band members would now fragment the group yet again is almost heartbreaking.

This is how I feel too.

So does this mean that Stevie quit the band or what?:shrug:

no it means if they go out for a cash grab tour and really doesn't have to put in any effort into learning new songs ...she's going

The more I think about the situation, the sadder I get. I could never hate Stevie, she is my favorite forever. However, it is sad that she seems to be stuck on this recording doesn't sell opinion. I am definitely happy that she took time to do the 24 Karat Gold Tour but i just wish she would contribute to a Fleetwood Mac album. I know Buckingham McVie will be great, but it's not the same to me without Stevie. I was thinking that her not wanting to work with Lindsey was the reason behind all this. Now this interview makes me think that it is recording in general. I guess this means no new solo album from her either. I wish something would change her mind. You can tell that tour has made her so happy, similar to the way songwriting used to as well.

I will always love Stevie for that voice being there in my darkest hours but her attitude in this article is horrific. Someone who has always said that songwriting was her first love is not writing songs anymore because some 20 year old might steal it?!:shrug: Just disgusting.

I love Stevie and I adore 24KG. However -- and I don't think I'm alone in this belief -- every song on that album could have been infinitely better with Fleetwood Mac. Same with IYD. I bought those albums because I love Stevie and her words... But the production on those albums leaves much to be desired. In my mind, good music is good music and I will buy it if it's good. Not even digital copies but tangible music that you can take and play and hold onto. Call me a "hipster" but I'm in the exact demographic that they keep saying they need to appeal to. And the thing that got me really hooked to begin with was Stevie appearing on American Horror Story, because while I knew of the band, that was like a little door for me to walk right through into their world. So that was a better marketing strategy for someone my age than any daytime talk show or singing contest performance.

Forget Bob Dylan -- would you say that to Beyonce or Adele right now, people who do sell whole albums because those whole albums are cohesive and creative and worth buying?? Anyone focused on just selling a single is only going to sell a single, and probably even fall short at that. IMHO streaming has replaced radio, not albums. People stream what they don't care to buy. If you love something, you'd still rather own it. :shrug: I'm even a little offended that Stevie would assume anyone other than her fans would latch onto IYD or 24KG, simply because it's her singing and the lyrics are hers; you need the whole package if you want to be successful, and that is why I think a Fleetwood Mac album would do better than a Stevie solo album -- you have all of the components needed to make great art if you just put them together!

Even Stevie alone, imagine if she pulled a Beyonce and put her soul into basically a movie -- a "visual album" -- where she chose every detail with purpose, crafted a story and had an unlimited budget and creative freedom. And why couldn't she? That could literally be the Rhiannon movie we've heard so much about. She has the money and creativity to actually make that, just like Beyonce made Lemonade. But she lets herself get dragged down and live in the past instead, just like she talks about in her song Ghosts!

But back to the topic at hand...

It's clear to me that Stevie has a problem with Lindsey and a year on a new FM album equates to a year wasted because she would rather do things that make her happy in her remaining years. Fair enough.

I like how she doesn't mention Lindsey at all, but says Christine seems very inspired.

I think there's so much more to it than that... As we have all learned, what Stevie tells the press should be taken with less than a grain of salt. I personally think Stevie's run out of inspiration, therefore taking a toll on her songwriting. The "songs written about Lindsey while on tour" vault has been emptied - nothing new there. No new loves in her life - so we get rehashed stories from her days on the road, or things like the Kennedys :distress:

It would be embarrassing for her to return to FM with nothing but old songs, or really bad new ones, when Chris and Lindsey have been consistently writing.. I think she's just too prideful, and is biding her time until everyone else calls it quits so she can just do what she likes without the pressure of competition :shrug:

I get what you're saying because it is an art and it is something that you would think they/she would want to share just because they want to share their art. However it is also their careers. It is her career. For example, as much as I like like helping people, I would not be doing mammograms and xrays, which is what I do for a living, for free. Even though at this point it's a moot point, it's still obviously really bothers her that she would be doing something and not get paid for it. Yes she is probably very rich, but that still doesn't mean she doesn't want to get paid. Who knows what her finances are? :shrug:

This subject of internet music stealing seems to really bother Stevie, and then she'll seem to pull yourself out of it and record albums like 24 karat Gold. So I wouldn't bet that she's not going to record any more albums.
I don't know a lot about astrology, but I do remember that Gemini's tend to change their mind a lot. She definitely has a history of that.

What if the opposite is true... What if she does still feel inspired... By Lindsey? And so her pride is just that she doesn't want to work intimately with these songs that are still about him?

It's like forgetting which excuse you used because you're making them up as you go along.

Just when I thought I'd heard every excuse come from her, she brings up youth and technology. Um hello, the industry has always been hard to break into. And guess what Stevie, you did it with amazing songwriting. Now you say the only reason you don't want to create is because it's hard again for you? Girl, please...

Judging from the tone of her recent interviews re: the current tour, you'd think she was all about mixing up the set and doing different songs. I read into that the implication that the rest of the band are the ones who insist on a "greatest hits" set every time... But then Lindsey's solo sets would indicate otherwise.

So maybe it's Mick and John that don't want to learn any new songs?! :shrug:;)

When Christine toured she did a lot of her new album. Spare Me A Little, Just Crazy Love, as pre LB/SN tracks. It was a fantastic set. So maybe you're right. It's mick! John doesn't care.

Oh, she is such a gemini. It's almost laughable how much of a gemini she is.

I thought that was so rude. Maybe she didn't mean it that way but it comes across very dismissive and disrespectful. As if she's saying "I know the album will be good because Christine will make it good, Lindsey who?" It's one thing to have your issues with a coworker but you shouldn't disrespect their work. Very tacky imo.

Well that being said, it's historically been Lindsey that has put down most of Stevie's work.. what he said about her early solo albums.. Destiny Rules songwriting "Bob Dylan" drama..

I think years of putting up with his ego led her to create one even bigger than his to protect herself. She always said that without Lindsey, her songs would be nothing but little piano demos, but when asked about her songs, he was usually very passive or condescending.

I've listened to many song introductions on tour from bootlegs from Tusk and Mirage.. When Lindsey would introduce Sara, it was also quite dismissive. Introducing Sara, he would say "this was the other single of the infamous Tusk album, one of Stevie's called Sara". - This, said extremely condescendingly. Introducing Gypsy once, he said "Well this is the soon-not-to-be-current single, one that Stevie called Gypsy".

So at some point, I think walking away from someone who never appreciated you for what you were is a vital part of establishing healthy boundaries in relationships, something that Stevie has never really done well. :shrug:

Her silence about Lindsey was probably about as rude as his silence about her when he wouldn't talk to the interviewer at Rolling Stone magazine when she was on the cover a few years back. I thought that was tacky.

See the thing that gets me about the piracy comments is that I feel like the people who are stealing music are not listening to Stevie Nicks or Fleetwood Mac. Typically those 20 somethings she talks about are just looking for whatever the newest top 40 hip hop single of the week is. Stevie really does have a growing fan base of young people today. I'm 18 and I know of plenty of other dedicated fans my age who are more than willing to purchase her albums because of the love of Stevie and her music. I can't see that much of a loss regarding young people just stealing; however, I see where she's coming from since artists definitely deserve to be compensated for their work. I hope this is just another one of her phases that she'll come out of.

I know there were moments in the past but that was like 30 years ago I don't think it's really all that relevant anymore. I've read a lot of recent interviews and he's always complimentary of her songs and everything.

And I've heard intros where he says things like "This is a very pretty song from the equally pretty Stevie" "This is Sara, it's really pretty" etc:shrug: I don't think intros are overthought.

The Bob Dylan thing imo is so overdramatic, there was nothing wrong with what he said.

It just rubbed me the wrong way. This whole interview with her rubbed me the wrong way, probably why I'm being more picky than I would be.

yep :thumbsup:

And introducing Buckingham McVie, he discussed how he enjoyed working on Christine's songs since he used to do that for Stevie but that had been a long time ago.

Saying he hasn't worked on her songs in a long time isn't disrespectful to her or her work in any way. It's just the truth, because he hasn't.

This is so spot on!

really cause on the live version of Sara I heard recently he called it "a song from Stevie and it's real pretty and it's called Sara"

This is a Stevie Nicks message board. The things I read, Anyone that believes Stevie quit writing is not a fan. The bs about her tour, The Pretenders r not selling the tix trust me. Top 5 tour of 2016, I'm even surprised by this. She doesn't want 2 record, I wanted a new Mac album myself...But I luv solo Stevie more. She is my girl!!!! Luv y'all! Even the haters.

Quite simply, she's broken our hearts.

Buy a concert ticket. Not mine.

Now its time to demonstrate my trained statement analysis training.
Stevie is not honest in this interview (big surprise). As usual she is full of contradictions. She says they are getting too old to record but not too old to tour? That makes no sense.
Notice how she singles out Christine and says something like the album will be good because Christine is very creative. She never mentions any other band member like Mick, John, Chris, and Lindsey are fantastic musicians and they will definitely create a fantastic album. She does not say that which reveals her inner bitterness towards the members for moving on without her.
Its really a shame because NEVER would anyone think Christine would come back to tour let alone create another album. The loss of one final album with all 5 members will never be. I expect the album will be better without her but its still a bummer the Fleetwood Mac history of recording had to end with a "duet" because one member chose not to participate but cant pass up the big bucks from touring.

I have no problem with Stevie saying she doesn't want to record anymore and just tour, but if you are in a band with 4 other people and the majority wants to record and you don't, then the obvious choice is to leave the group.

But it's apparent that she wants to stay in Fleetwood Mac so she can tour and rake in the money. Which is from us fans.

I love Stevie, but I am very disappointed in her mindset about this and I'm sure the rest of the Mac are frustrated also. I doubt if they want to go out as an oldies act.

Macfan4life, you could be right. Maybe Stevie didn't say anything about Lindsey because of the old saying "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." At least she was complimentary towards Christine and she didn't bad mouth anyone.

She says nice things about Christine, doesn't take any digs at anyone else, and some people (not you, macfan, but others) seem to think she's being disrespectful. I kind of feel like Stevie can't win here.