A FM Album without Stevie is just a Lindsey solo album
 

And we know how well solo a Lindsey Buckingham album sells. And a tour without Stevie would be like a lounge show, which is ironic considering Lindsey described Christine's and Stevie's solo tours as a lounge act.

Wonder if they would still use Stevie's back up singers? Think they'd move Christine to the center of the stage? Or would she still stay in the back left corner?

To replace Stevie's songs, I wonder if Lindsey will perform more 12 minute solos on songs like Not That Funny, I'm So Afraid, and Come? Maybe more of his solo work like Big Love, Go Insane, the Ledge, or Walk a Thin Line?

Funniest thing I've read all day!

Even without a new album, they wouldn't be hurting for material. They could still do a GH tour, only it would be better because the primary hit writer for Fleetwood Mac would be there.

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Second Hand News
You Make Loving Fun
Trouble
Everywhere
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Think About Me
Tusk
Hold Me
Big Love
Go Insane
Never Going Back Again
Over My Head
Bleed To Love Her
Little Lies
I'm So Afraid
Got A Hold On Me
Go Your Own Way
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World Turning
Blue Letter
Don't Stop
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Songbird

This post doesn't make sense to me.

Love that set list tho!

I totally agree with you. I think Lindsey would fully take over and it would be way too many long guitar solos and screaming from him. I love Christine though so she may be able to temper all of that...who knows? I don't think Christine wants to be front and center so it would be the Lindsey show. Just not my cup of tea.

Oh it would definitely be a lounge act, with Lindsey's "Oz, the great and powerful" head showing on the backdrop the entire time!

You all make it sound like Mick, John, and Christine didn't have a band until Stevie and Lindsey joined. They did, and it was called Fleetwood Mac. And, Christine even did a solo tour (albeit reluctantly). This tour will be every bit a Fleetwood Mac tour.

weirdly, looks like some of the Stevie fans needed a venting thread to for whatever reason spit on non-SN band members. i was expecting SN fans would be happy that FM 4 are leaving SN alone to do whatever she wants to do, and they have her all to themselves. :shrug:


EDIT: this thread title is unbelievably insulting to FM's biggest hitmaker. and to the whole band.

You forget the age of some of the new fans. I realized when I was debating some shippers about Christine... They came into the fold in 2003. lol

I then decided not to waste my energy..

They get bent about the bashing.. then call it a Lindsey lounge act.

Sounds like Stevie. lol

I am a fan of her solo music (not the image )

I am glad she is doing her thing but I would prefer a new Mac record ...I am now Thrilled at a chance to have a record with just the 4 of them she is not Fleetwood Mac ,John and Mick are the rest are just hired player who can and have come and gone . I really hope they release the music they have been working on as i said they are creative musician she has settled on being a rock star .

A non Stevie tour opens up the door for some Pre-Rumours material to be used. A lot of great Christine tunes that never get any love anymore.

YAASSSS!!!!! Thank you!!! :]

Seriously though, it's ok for the Stevie haters to say anything and everything about her, call her names and make fun of her voice, but let her fans jump in and we are either young and dumb (NO, I'm 47 and have loved her since Bella Donna) or just being mean about the other four. Boo Hoo!! I can admit that Stevie has a huge ego, but your boy Lindsey......his is just as big or bigger. He thinks he's smarter, more talented and that he has the perfect little life with his perfect little wife and their horses, kids and dogs and he can do a perfect job making a perfect record as long as everyone else bends to his will and lets him make it HIS way. Puleeezze!! No wonder she doesn't want to record with them! Listen, it's like Trump and Clinton! We are not going to agree, EVER! If you don't want Stevie's fans defending her, then QUIT bashing her.

Oh God, don't bring in Trump.. I love Stevie I love Stevie... I promise I won't say another word.. .. just don't bring that jerk up.... ;)

That's always better than a chunky twirl... followed by nasal goat noises

there's always drag queen night at the lounge! lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...en%20night.jpg

The problem with this is that you're making this Stevie vs. Lindsey, which falls on deaf ears for those of us who are fans of the band (i.e. Christine, Mick, and John). I don't care how mean Lindsey was during the recording of SYW, or any other album for that matter, I don't care whether or not Stevie participates, I don't especially care if Lindsey participates . . . I don't care how it happens, just so long as I get more music from the Fleetwood-McVie-McVie rhythm section.

This thread makes no sense. On several levels.

First off, Christine's there, so it can't be just a Lindsey solo album. The EP (with Stevie nominally present) is actually a Lindsey solo project plus Mick and John.

Second, Even if Lindsey were the only front person left in the band, what are the remaining members supposed to do--wait and beg a stubborn, narcissistic, unwilling, unhappy artist who refuses to record with them?

Fail.

It's all they have done for 13 years...Why stop now...

What a really stoopid thread.

HomerMcVie, where are you right now? I take back anything I may have said to you in the past.

btw, I like the idea of them playing some of Chris' pre-75 material. Maybe even a PG song or two- it is 50 years since he founded the band after all.

Because Christine is back, duh!

And she's armed with songs. Bless her heart!

as she writes songs.. chiffon is melting!!! melting!!! :]

The "Red Sun" is doing that ;)

and now the room and the stairs are on fire

What doesn't make sense? A FM album without Stevie will sell the same as a Lindsey solo album.

Lindsey will replace Stevie songs with longer solos.

Christine will remain in the left hand corner behind her keyboards.

Also, interviews and tv appearances will be sparse, if not non-existent.

A Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie would not be a Lindsey solo album in any sense. It would have an even mix of Lindsey and Christine songs, except for the fact that some of their songs are co-written, making this much more of a BAND album than Fleetwood Mac has put out in a very long time. It would be much more of a cooperative venture than 'Say You Will' was, which to me still feels like a Stevie solo record and a Lindsey solo record on shuffle.

Lindsey's a more flamboyant live performer than Christine, but that doesn't mean he'd dominate a live show. The show will most likely feature a fairly even split between his songs and her songs (with a few other FM songs thrown in, hopefully). It might even feature more of her songs than his, since she's had so many hits. Chances are she'd get up and play the accordion, guitar, maracas, or other instruments on a few songs, and I doubt she'd be buried behind her keyboard the whole show. If they don't use any backing musicians (which I hope they wouldn't), automatically she'd have a bigger musical role to play.

Yes, Lindsey has a big ego, but he has a big talent. From the recent quotes, it's clear that he recognizes and appreciates that Christine has a big talent, too. I have a feeling he would love performing with her, Mick, and John. I know I would love seeing that.

With Christine back, not likely. There's a built in curiosity factor that you're grotesquely underestimating.

Stevie only had eight songs in the set. "Hold Me," "Got A Hold On Me," "Trouble," and "Go Insane" are hits they could easily add, plus whatever new songs, plus whatever pre-1975 songs they would add for the band's 50th Anniversary. Not only could they easily replace Stevie's songs in the set, they would still have too many songs to choose from. This comment alone makes you sound incredibly ignorant.

And Lindsey would be everywhere else. It's not like Stevie does a lot for their stage show anymore. It's not like 1975-1983 as far as she goes. She mostly loiters, arms flailing, with the occasional twirl these days. Meh.

Oh no . . . They won't get to play on Ellen. Bummer.

No, that's such a load of sh!t- it would sell a lot more. They have the FM name- that counts for a lot.

No he won't. It will be an intimate show and I'm sure the music will be fitting for the occasion. He knows how to craft a show- he's not stupid. I hope there will be space for Lindsey/Chris solo songs, pre 75 CM songs and PG songs.

I'm sure she won't. She doesn't stay behind her keyboards during full 5 shows she she wont stay there now. She wont venture away too much from her keyboards but I'm sure they'd now be more prominent front of stage. She's the co-star.

Load of sh!t. Chris and Mick have done a few interviews recently and they are only pushing Mirage. I'm sure they'd be out all guns blazing. Why wouldnt they? Strange comment.

LOL yeah, what's a little publicity, you know, 6 million viewers. Why even bother, right? LOL.

In the real world, unfortunately, a lot of people have no clue who Christine McVie is, so that built-in curiosity factor you mention is grotesquely overestimated.

He would dominate a show and a tour. He did with SYW. Screeching yelping drawn out embarrassing faux guitar-god dreck.

You mean Christine McVie who came back and sold out 6 shows at the Forum with her return.. when just a year earlier FMac couldn't sell the Staples center? We won't even talk about the billboard article that gave her a little credit for being gone 15 years and turning the band on it's head for a 1 1/2 tour.

That Christine McVie? You're right she means nothing to Fleetwood Mac. What album was your first, btw?

Hey, I love Christine McVie!! But I'm a FM fanatic. Unfortunately, most of my co-workers don't know who she is. And mentioning Got a Hold on Me doesn't ring any bells for them. The average person has no idea who she is.

Ridiculous! Hello Christine?????? This thread makes NO sense.

You must be a coal miner in Siberia then :eek:

Christine had most of the hits with the Mac.

And a lot of people think Stevie Nicks is a guy. I'm not interested in dumbing myself down for people.

lol i know. it's in part baffling and in part amusing.

people who so obviously care only about SN in this band, now when she gets to do what she wants, are still not happy. they can see her all on her own without all these other band members that they seem to hate so much. and obviously there's no reason for these chiffs to go see this particular 4/5 FM so i'm really not sure why they care how those shows will go.

this way everybody wins people, why hate?! only love and excitement! :xoxo:

I agree there's a lot of hate on this board. I'm not calling any of the band members names or making rude comments about their appearances.

I do think a FM album without Stevie would sell the same as a Lindsey solo album.

I do think without Stevie, Lindsey would add more solos.

I do think publicity helps sells albums, and that neither Christine or Lindsey would appear on tv programs.

You don't have to be a coal miner in another country to not know who Christine McVie is. Stevie had several hit solo songs and albums, had several solo videos, and appeared in a lot of magazine articles and covers. She's been solo on shows like the Tonight Show, David Letterman, Ellen, Rosie, the Voice, American Idol, America's Got Talent, and Dancing with the Stars. Those shows keep her name and image visible to the public. Christine simply doesn't have the name recognition that Stevie does. This is not a criticism or insult to Christine, simply a fact. She moved back to England some 15 years ago- in that time, Stevie has continued to release music and appear on TV. Hell, she even had a song sampled by Beyonce! That kind of thing keeps Stevie well-known.

But if you want to think that Christine is just as well-known as Stevie, go for it.

Maybe, but at least they've heard the name Stevie Nicks. Most folks don't know Lindsey Buckingham at all, and many who might no doubt think Lindsey's a woman.

Actually, I don't care how much it sells. One of my all time favorite albums is "Bee Thousand" by Guided by Voices, and it only sold about 50,000. It's considered an indie rock masterpiece. That being said, just going by number of top 40 singles, Christine is overwhelmingly the voice of Fleetwood Mac.

Christine is on the record as not being a fan of extended guitar solos. So, you're just wrong.

Yeah, 24KG did so well after Stevie went on TV.

Yes, Stevie is a publicity whore. Duets with Tom Petty and Don Henley in 1981, Bruce Hornsby and Kenny G in 1989, Natalie Maines and Sheryl Crow in 2001. Stevie loves kissing the asses of hit makers de jour. Which is all something the others never really cared too much about.

And Stevie's prolific release schedule during Christine's abscence? Two solo albums, two solo comps, a live DVD, and an album of leaked demos she found on YouTube. Color me underwhelmed. She only had one more album of new material than the woman who essentially retired from the industry.