Stevie Talks About Recording New Fleetwood Mac Album..Iffy
 

Stevie talks about possibility of recording with FM.

http://www.nme.com/news/fleetwood-mac/96292

.@StevieNicks on crafting a setlist for 24 Karat Gold Tour & possible Fleetwood Mac album https://t.co/lL3GHq8UYy pic.twitter.com/mff49kdsJ0

— billboard (@billboard) September 8, 2016

Here's the Billboard link so you don't have to go through some fan site to find it...


"Whenever I play ‘Stand Back’ from this day forward, Prince will be standing next to me."

“I'm hoping that this will be as much fun for the audience as it's gonna be for me,” Stevie Nicks tells Billboard about her just-announced 24 Karat Gold Tour. The two-month trek -- launching Oct. 25 in Phoenix, with the Pretenders opening -- supports her 2014 effort 24 Karat Gold: Songs From the Vault, which marked her sixth top 10 album on the Billboard 200 chart.

The album was comprised of tracks Nicks had written and made demo recordings for decades ago but had never been included on any of her previous albums. Then, in 2014, she and producer Dave Stewart headed to Nashville with the demos and recorded entirely new versions of the songs to produce 24 Karat Gold. “I think this [tour] is going to be great,” Nicks says. “I think that all the fans are gonna have a ball. And I hope that they totally just dress up -- as Wendy Williams would say, 'Dress to the nines.' And come to party, and sing.”

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Nicks says the setlist for the tour is still being shaped (it’s “about at 30 songs right now”) but will feature songs from 24 Karat Gold and possibly title cuts from some of her older albums, like “Bella Donna,” “Wild Heart” and “Trouble in Shangri-La.” She wants the show to “have its little explosions of fun” from the various parts of her career. Nicks also gives a hint to fans: “You know what, you might want to come to two shows, because you never know: There might be an alternative [set]list.”

It’s likely that familiar favorites like “Edge of Seventeen” and “Stand Back” will both turn up in the setlist, and for Nicks, “Stand Back” has a new emotional weight. The track was “written to” Prince’s “Little Red Corvette,” and she’s “brokenhearted” that she was never able to have him share the stage with her on the song. “Had I ever in a million years thought that we would lose him,” Nicks says, “I would have made sure that that would have happened. And it didn't. So that's just one of those things in your life where you so say, 'I really missed out.' Because he should have. That should have happened. So whenever I play ‘Stand Back’ from this day forward, Prince will be standing next to me. That is always going to be a joy.”

Nicks, of course, has a second career with the band Fleetwood Mac, which completed its triumphant On With the Show Tour in November 2015. The global run saw the classic Rumours-era lineup of the band -- with a returning Christine McVie -- play 120 shows on three continents. Now that the tour has concluded, might there be a new studio album from the famous quintet?

“You know what, I never know what's going to happen,” Nicks says. “It's like, I didn't -- in my wildest dreams -- ever know that I was going to do the 24 Karat Gold record. And I certainly didn't ever, after 16 years, think that Christine McVie was going to call up and say, 'How would you feel if I came back to the band?' You know, it's like, are you serious? Is this a joke?"

With McVie back in the Fleetwood fold, fans are also holding out hope for a new album from the group. “I learned a long time ago to never say never. Right now, because of the fact that we know that people don't buy records… it's like, hard to sell records. So then you think, 'Well, why do you do records?' Well, the reason you do records is because it's like we're like kids again, and we can do anything we want. We have enough money. We don't really have to work if we don't want to. So we can do records for the reason that we actually did them in the very beginning -- just 'cause it's fun.

"Is it possible that Fleetwood Mac might do another record? I can never tell you yes or no, because I don't know. I honestly don't know. … It's like, do you want to take a chance of going in and setting up in a room for like a year [to record an album] and having a bunch of arguing people? And then not wanting to go on tour because you just spent a year arguing? Or do you just go on tour because you know that you have fun up there and you love doing shows? And Christine's only been back for [laughs] a year and a half.

“So you start to weigh your… 'Why would you do this, why would you do that?' And I honestly don't know. But I never say never… that really is in God's hands.”

Here are some excerpts from our conversation with Nicks:

Nicks recorded the 24 Karat Gold album just two months -- and it was her final album owed to her record label, Warner Bros. Records. But she had to essentially put 24 Karat Gold away and not listen to it for over a year as she was about to head out on the road with Fleetwood Mac:

We finished [24 Karat Gold] in, like, two months -- the whole record. And then, this is kind of what I did: It was like, metaphorically, I bought a gold box, I put the record in the box, I put tissue around it, I wrapped it, I put a red bow on it. I got in the car, we drove past Warner Bros., and I ran in, put it on the front desk and said, "Please give this to the president of Warner Bros.," and I ran back out. Got in the car and went straight to Culver City to be at rehearsals with Fleetwood Mac at 2 o'clock. That was it!

Needless to say, me doing a record wasn't exactly the most favorite topic of conversation at the Fleetwood Mac rehearsal. Christine had just come back in, you know, changed her life, moved to L.A. So that was it. I can honestly say, I never even listened to 24 Karat Gold again until we got home from the tour in January. Because why would I, you know what I mean? Why would I go and make myself feel bad by listening to my really beautiful, fun record of all my great old glory songs? [They] were the sex, rock & roll and drug songs that just almost made every single big record, but for whatever my reasons were, I pulled them. These weren't songs that were kicked off the record by anybody; these were songs that I pulled off records.

So why would I want to sit around and make myself miserable? So I never listened to it once until we got home from the Fleetwood Mac tour. And then I said to my manager, "Well, I'm gonna think about this very carefully." And the fact was… my little life-partner puppy dog that was almost 18 years old was seriously dying. And she died between December and July 5. So I didn't go anywhere, I didn't take any vacations, I didn't really do anything except be with her and kind of deal with that whole situation. But all through that, I was thinking, "You know, if I don't do this now, we'll miss the window that will make it possible." If we go out for 24 Karat Gold right now, we're actually going out with some product -- not that I am going to necessarily sell records, because I don't believe that people buy records, so that's not why I'm going out. I'm going out to promote this record just because I want people to hear what's on it. And I figured the only way I can let them hear what's on it is to actually go out and play some of the stuff that's on it.

Her manager asked if perhaps Nicks would just rather stay home this year after the passing of her beloved pet and spending so much time on the road with Fleetwood Mac:

I don't want to miss the window. If I don't go out until next year, we won't go out until the spring, and then by the time we get out there, it'll be the summer, and by the time I get home, it'll be too late to do the 24 Karat Gold Tour. And it'll just end up being Stevie going out to do another Stevie Nicks tour that has all the exact same songs that every other Stevie Nicks tour for the last 20 years has had. And that's not what I want to do.

Nicks discusses what the 24 Karat Gold Tour setlist might include:

This will make you laugh, but it's the truth. When I sat down a couple weeks ago to start figuring out what would be in here, I had decided that I also wanted to do "Wild Heart," maybe do "Bella Donna," maybe do "Trouble in Shangri-La." So I wanted to do some title songs [from Nicks' albums]. I mean, I thought, you know, this is laying open a whole new world for me… So my list is like about at 30 songs right now. And so Waddy [Wachtel, Nicks' guitarist and music director for the tour], he said to me, "Just call me when [the setlist is] over." Like, "Stevie, have you cut out any songs yet?" And I said, "Well, maybe two, so I'm working on it."

So what I've done is, I've sent out all 30 songs [Laughs] to everybody in the band, saying, like, "We're not going to do all of these 30, but we have to try some of these." Because sometimes you don't know. You might hear the song that you think is going to be the best ever, and it's not. And then there's the song that you think is going to be totally terrible and it's great. So I said, "You don't have to learn them for real, but just be aware." So that we can spend a few days just playing bits and pieces of everything. So, yes, is [the setlist] going to be songs from 24 Karat Gold? Absolutely. But it's also going to be some things from some of the other records also, because I'll never get a chance to do this again. Until I actually do, like, the full-on acoustic set that will actually be three hours, where I can actually start with "Bella Donna" and go all the way up through… until I get to that tour.

So this tour, I want it to have its acoustic parts, I want it to have its little explosions of fun from all different parts. I want it to have the 24 Karat Gold demos, there's two or three songs off In Your Dreams. I'd like to do the "New Orleans" song, I want to do "Soldier's Angel" because that's important to me right now -- just, once again, with the whole political thing that's going on, I think "Soldier's Angel" is an important song to do. So it's like, it's gonna be a lot of cool stuff, and I'll have about two hours and 15 minutes. So, I may -- maybe -- cut a couple songs down a little bit. Maybe I won't do all six verses, you know? … Maybe if I do "Bella Donna," maybe I'll only do half of "Bella Donna." I want to do "Wild Heart," and that has never been done onstage, ever. Because that is a hard song to do. So I'll give it a try, and if I can pull it off, I'll do it.

On how so many of her old demo recordings ended up on the Internet and eventually back to the 24 Karat Gold album, and then to the 24 Karat Gold Tour:

At some point a suitcase of demos was sold, and out went all the demos to all these songs. … They all got sold. I mean, they just got lost. And in those days, we were so free with our music. It was like, "Sure I just wrote a new song." And some of your friends are like, "Can I have a tape of it?" And you're going, "Sure I'll make you a cassette right now." And then of course that cassette goes to their house and then somebody else says, "Gee, that's so great can I have a cassette of that?" And they're like, "Sure!" And nobody was ever selfish with music, one bit. But in the long run, unfortunately, it did release just about everything I'd ever done. Everything, probably, I've never done is out in the cosmos, somewhere.

But the thing is, [the fans] haven't seen it done. They haven't seen it played in concert. So that's what I'm hoping, is that this can be the suitcase of demos that they didn't ever see performed. And that this will be really fun for people. Because they are familiar with these songs. They're familiar with all the songs on 24 Karat Gold. They're familiar with almost every demo I ever made. So this is bringing them to life. And that's what I wanted to do, you know? And I'm hoping that this will be as much fun for the audience as it's gonna be for me, because I'm so tired of doing the same thing over and over and over again. I'm not that kind of person, really. I'm the off-the-top-of-your-head kind of person and always have been. And it's very hard for me to just do the same thing every single night.

Nicks has performed “Edge of Seventeen” and “Stand Back” more than 400 times each in her shows. Are there songs she's tired of performing live?

Because I have two careers -- the great thing is, is that I got three years off from doing "Edge of Seventeen" or "Stand Back," because Fleetwood Mac actually used to do "Stand Back" and took it out [on the last tour]. So I haven't done "Edge of Seventeen" or "Stand Back" in closing in on four years. … All those songs, if they actually were in almost all the sets, then you know I really like those songs. I didn't do them because I had to do them. Because I could always put something else in instead.



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[It's in God's hands?? Well, it's kind of in yours, Stevie. Unless you think you and He are interchangeable now. His only job is not letting any of the 5 Macsters die before a record is made, but He can't hold out forever]

Stevie Nicks discusses recording a new Fleetwood Mac album

'Dreams' singer says it "really is in God's hands"

NICK LEVINE, 8TH SEPTEMBER 2016 NME

http://www.nme.com/news/fleetwood-mac/96292

Though the band toured extensively through 2014 and 2015, with Christine McVie returning to the fold for the first time in a decade and a half, they have not released a studio album since 2003's 'Say You Will'.

During an interview with Billboard, Nicks admitted that the band's famously tempestuous relationships could have a bearing on whether they make another album together.

"Is it possible that Fleetwood Mac might do another record? I can never tell you yes or no, because I don't know. I honestly don't know," she said. "It's like, do you want to take a chance of going in and setting up in a room for like a year [to record an album] and having a bunch of arguing people? And then not wanting to go on tour because you just spent a year arguing?"

"Or do you just go on tour because you know that you have fun up there and you love doing shows?" the musician continued. "And Christine's only been back for a year and a half."

Nicks, who is preparing to embark on a solo tour of North America next month, added: "So you start to weigh your… 'Why would you do this, why would you do that?' And I honestly don't know. But I never say never… that really is in God's hands."

Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/fleetwood-ma...pVKIGRPIiDw.99

Or I might die before it will come out.Will see with my Nep,"kidney" doctor in two weeks.Now I'm stable at stage 3 potential of kidney problems.

She acts like it's not up to her. "It's in God's hands" Does she mean it's up to God to change her mind about it? Also she has to do is say yes and it's a done deal.

Or she's washed her hands of it...

I used Google translator from german to english to find a word that sums up that interview and got several choices:
ramblings
Geschwafel
waffle
Geschwafel
flannel
Flanell, Waschlappen, Lappen, Geschwafel, Gelaber
vaporing
Geschwafel, Prahlerei
wafer
Waffel, Hostie, Geschwafel
vapouring
Prahlerei, Geschwafel

And that's all I got from Stevie today.

Brilliant.

It's mindblowingly respectless towards her bandmates. They can't pull the plug yet, because Christine got back. And because there IS another chapter right there. And she puts it outside of her circle of influence. Sickening. And she sounds sooooooo dumb saying that when everybody knows it's just her three songs that are missing and some harmonies.

Exactly. :laugh:

Stevie really teases about a great set list. However she does do this before every tour but then sticks to her standards. Remember when she was doing the Vegas shows and she said the stage was so big that they had to be creative. She promised so much but when the shows came around....nothing changed. The same 12 songs and nothing different on stage. The only tour she has done something different was Enchanted. Unfortunately when she says she wants to do "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" I got excited thinking she meant the songs. She means the albums.
With her material she should be doing AT LEAST 17 songs.

OMG what is wrong with Stevie? 3 songs and some backing vox take a full year of arguments to get accomplished? Totally disrespectful to Christine and Lindsey's hard work they've put in so far IMO.

Boo.

http://i.imgur.com/T4YCNde.png


And Peter Green said 'Let there be another Fleetwood Mac album'

I think she doesn't have a clue about what is coming out of her mouth. She has always been pretentious, but she has reached new levels. She really has some resentment toward Lindsey. I heard stories about how she can't stand him and how this last tour was awful for them. The subtext keeps rising to the top. (for me, anyway)

I can not speak for them or speculate ,they have contracts and timelines etc I can wait for a new record they just came off a tour record or not no one is going to rudh to see them ... But I will safely ASS U ME there is one person in this photograph happy he doesn't have to drag his ass all over the world right now

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6rEXuOHWf...00/QbWpyYJ.jpg

This interview pretty much sets it out- she'll tour at some unspecified distant point with FM but she couldn't give a sh!t about an album.
So, with this in mind...would it really be beyond the realms of possibility they could release a Fleetwood Mac album sans Stevie and then leave the door open to her returning for a tour at some point in the future?
Personally I don't think they should- they should just boot her out and get on with it. But, as they are seemingly reluctant to do that it could be a workable compromise.

John looks horrific...I think they should just announce the bands retirement...With John being such integral part of the band I wonder if he feels like he's on a ride and there's no way off...

Wishing you good health Skip!

John really looks bad there. Especially relative to how everyone else in the band looks incredibly healthy and well. Probably not a bad idea the Mac put it in low gear for awhile and let John recuperate. We love you John!

Two passages really jumped out at me in Stevie's interviews this week, so I figured I'd ramble for a bit:

For the New York Times, she says "I love being part of a team. We argue all the time, but we always have."

For Billboard, she says "[D]o you want to take a chance of going in and setting up in a room for like a year and having a bunch of arguing people? And then not wanting to go on tour because you just spent a year arguing? Or do you just go on tour because you know that you have fun up there and you love doing shows?"

Stevie's clearly conflicted right now. She loves touring with FM and knows some amount of argument comes along with it, but she doesn't want to risk the whole band imploding if they go into the studio. I'm reading that as saying she doesn't entirely trust Lindsey to make the recording process fun for her or keep it short enough that they don't argue for a year. I assume it's even possible she doesn't entirely buy into his thoughts on the band's musical direction and would rather have full say on her own songs. (Notice that the song she brought in for Extended Play was one that they didn't really need to argue about since they'd already recorded it before.) Whatever the case, they clearly still have some negotiating to do if Lindsey wants to get her voice on tape in a year or two.

I suppose the good news is that she isn't saying anywhere that she's done with FM. I'd have been happy even if they'd called it a day after the '97 reunion, so everything after that has been a nice bonus. One more album would be great, but I'd much rather see the five of them retire on good terms at this point. Life's too short...

Thanks jwd.

Hey, anyone can be caught with their mouth hanging open at the wrong time.

Michele

Are there other pics of JM from the July show other than the two that have circulated on Twitter? I'm hoping this was just a particularly bad shot of him.

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/...psgho7kkf2.jpg
An earlier pic of the band (before the tour?)
Either he's just having a bad day or he's not doing well...Hopefully it's not the later...

Here's another one:

http://i.imgur.com/GmPY9K4.jpg

"Setting up a room for like a year..."? LOL... W.e...:laugh::laugh::laugh:

i don't know, i think people are overreacting. i think he just looks his age. people should think of their grandparents or parents that are FM members age. how do they look?

not every musician or entertainer has a need to get work done in order to look younger. Johnny Mac was never the guy who built his success on the basis of his looks.

This is what I'm thinking. I remember a few years ago (before Christine rejoined the band), a tabloid picture of her walking her dogs was circulating, and people were freaking out abut how she looked. And I was thinking, "it's a 70-year-old woman without makeup." :shrug:

true. but even with that, he clearly has the appearance of someone who has had some health issues which have taken some toll, even if they are currently resolved.
he definitely looks like he's lost some weight, which could be due to his treatments or to his doctor's recommendations for staying healthy and probably both. he looks a bit gaunt.

sh&t I look at myself in the mirror some days in the morning and think, "who is that 70 year old woman without makeup?" And I'm several decades younger than that!!! :eek::laugh:

LOL :laugh:

Poverino John!

Poor little John

Stephanie is being a deceptive, selfish bitch.

She knows at least three (I'm excluding the ailing bassist) of her fellow band mates solemnly hope and pray for and have done the work towards creating a final new studio album by Fleetwood Mac.

All that said, Stephanie is a deceptive selfish bitch I am really hoping to see on tour, provided I can afford to make a three week vacation of it in December during my college break and go to the Sacramento show and explore California on my first overseas trip.\

So far not counting my shares I have $200 saved. Oh dear. Glad it's three months away. Gotta save at least half of each paycheque I think.

Thanks, he looks at least a bit better there. I think he might have been yawning in the prior pic, which is why he looks so out of it.

I agree with what everyone is saying in that it isn't fair to speculate too terribly much about what any member's current health status is, but that said, it's hard not to at least notice that John has lost a ton of weight and appears very different than he did even a year ago.

What's up with the sizing in this thread???

I have to keep scrolling left to right in order to view the whole page...Doesn't happen in the other threads...

Not from the July show, but two from May of smiling John (car shopping).
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...ighlight=Volvo

What would make a guy happier than shopping for a car, or a boat in John's case?! We love you John!!!!

These are cool, thanks.

Thanks for posting!!

It's because some of the pictures are huge and take more horizontal space than you have on your screen.

No, no, THANK YOU! :wavey: