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secret love 09-06-2016 07:56 PM

Now Stevie has announced her tour, it all makes sense ...or not?
 
Does everyone believe the dribs and drabs of Fleetwood Mac news since the tour now make sense, with the announcement of Stevie's solo tour with The Pretenders?

So she wants to make an album.
She just wanted to tour 24 KG first and to further promote the commercial disappointment (but quite good) album In Your Dreams.
Then Fleetwood Mac?

I skimmed the article and I will read it word for word sometime today hopefully, maybe tonight after work.

Is the above correct?
We get a new album once Stevie's solo commitments are done?

Or is that still in doubt, with a tour likely but an album unlikely by this band?

Thanks.

Cheers

James

AlexD 09-06-2016 08:04 PM

There has been no indication of her working or wanting to work with FM for an album I guess.

louielouie2000 09-06-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1190178)
There has been no indication of her working or wanting to work with FM for an album I guess.

Exactly. Not only that, Stevie states she won't be returning to Fleetwood Mac for two years. Even then, it will only be for touring.

AlexD 09-06-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1190186)
Exactly. Not only that, Stevie states she won't be returning to Fleetwood Mac for two years. Even then, it will only be for touring.

I don't think she said two years did she?

louielouie2000 09-06-2016 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1190187)
I don't think she said two years did she?

The third paragraph in the NY Times article she states she has two years off until FM wants her back.

AlexD 09-06-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1190188)
The third paragraph in the NY Times article she states she has two years off until FM wants her back.

God I hope Lindsey does a solo tour

louielouie2000 09-06-2016 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1190189)
God I hope Lindsey does a solo tour

Truth. We now know he has the time!

AliceLover 09-06-2016 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1190186)
Exactly. Not only that, Stevie states she won't be returning to Fleetwood Mac for two years. Even then, it will only be for touring.

Yeah but I think she was referring to 2016 and most of 2017 as the 2 years.

elle 09-06-2016 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1190189)
God I hope Lindsey does a solo tour

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1190197)
Truth. We now know he has the time!

yes!

gotta love this quote for all the peeps who were so adamantly holding on to her talk about new FM album -

“I just woke up one morning and said, I have two years off before Fleetwood Mac comes knocking on my door. Why would I want to sit around and do nothing?”

SteveMacD 09-06-2016 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexD (Post 1190189)
God I hope Lindsey does a solo tour

And, Mick, John, Christine, and Rick should do a Fleetwood-McVie Blues Band tour.

AlexD 09-06-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1190200)
yes!

gotta love this quote for all the peeps who were so adamantly holding on to her talk about new FM album -

“I just woke up one morning and said, I have two years off before Fleetwood Mac comes knocking on my door. Why would I want to sit around and do nothing?”

I can't say why Lindsey wouldn't say the same thing

secondhandchain 09-06-2016 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1190175)
Does everyone believe the dribs and drabs of Fleetwood Mac news since the tour now make sense, with the announcement of Stevie's solo tour with The Pretenders?

So she wants to make an album.
She just wanted to tour 24 KG first and to further promote the commercial disappointment (but quite good) album In Your Dreams.
Then Fleetwood Mac?

I skimmed the article and I will read it word for word sometime today hopefully, maybe tonight after work.

Is the above correct?
We get a new album once Stevie's solo commitments are done?

Or is that still in doubt, with a tour likely but an album unlikely by this band?

Thanks.

Cheers

James

She's just a damn liar. I have time off why would I want to sit around????? WFT you just said you needed time off! Used to love her....can't STAND her.

editme2 09-06-2016 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1190225)
She's just a damn liar. I have time off why would I want to sit around????? WFT you just said you needed time off! Used to love her....can't STAND her.

I love Stevie, but this is true.... I don't ever want to hear Stevie say she's tired and needs a break again. She can't sit still. She gets bored. She needs the energy of an audience. God love her for her work ethic. It's just disingenuous, and unfair to her Fleetwood Mac-mates, to say that she can't commit to making an album because she needs a break. Just be honest, Stevie: you want to focus on your solo work. Good for you. Just don't lie about your intentions.

Macfanforever 09-06-2016 11:03 PM

I'm glad to see her out but my gripe is how come she delayed it to freaking cold winter instead of doing a tour this summer.Also not happy because its a combo tour.I hope that the Pretenders setlist is short and sweet.

sue 09-07-2016 01:11 AM

I actually think we should cut Stevie a bit of slack, here.
2013 Fleetwood Mac world tour...starts April ended October 2013
January 2014 it is announced Christine is to return to the fold..
huge "on with the show" tour commences September 2014 and tours until November 2015.
Stevie releases 24Karat Gold in September 2014...but due to "On with the show", she never gets to promote her new Album.
Stevie finally gets to promote 24Karat in 2016....What is what she wanted to do after its release.....she put this on hold until now.

SteveMacD 09-07-2016 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sue (Post 1190242)
Stevie finally gets to promote 24Karat in 2016....What is what she wanted to do after its release.....she put this on hold until now.

She could have waited until after the tour . . .

Although, I will say that they could have done "Lady" in the set and promoted her album (i.e. selling the CD at shows and having a video ad on the screens before the shows), especially since it completed her contractual obligations. It would have been good politicking.

sue 09-07-2016 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1190202)
And, Mick, John, Christine, and Rick should do a Fleetwood-McVie Blues Band tour.

I love this idea....Mick, John and Christine getting back to their roots.

Macfan4life 09-07-2016 05:44 AM

I think Stevie should have toured this summer instead of late fall. Then she could have rested during the holidays and prepared to hit the studio with the Mac early next year.

AlexD 09-07-2016 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sue (Post 1190242)
I actually think we should cut Stevie a bit of slack, here.
2013 Fleetwood Mac world tour...starts April ended October 2013
January 2014 it is announced Christine is to return to the fold..
huge "on with the show" tour commences September 2014 and tours until November 2015.
Stevie releases 24Karat Gold in September 2014...but due to "On with the show", she never gets to promote her new Album.
Stevie finally gets to promote 24Karat in 2016....What is what she wanted to do after its release.....she put this on hold until now.

Lindsey completely handed over two solo projects to turn into Fleeteood Mac albums though.

jbrownsjr 09-07-2016 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1190244)
She could have waited until after the tour . . .

Although, I will say that they could have done "Lady" in the set and promoted her album (i.e. selling the CD at shows and having a video ad on the screens before the shows), especially since it completed her contractual obligations. It would have been good politicking.

And we wouldn't have Stevie on the piano!! Great idea

nicepace 09-07-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1190202)
And, Mick, John, Christine, and Rick should do a Fleetwood-McVie Blues Band tour.

YES!!! This would be my dream tour.

BlueDenimLamp 09-07-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1190202)
And, Mick, John, Christine, and Rick should do a Fleetwood-McVie Blues Band tour.

Yep...They need Rick to properly play the early FM songs...Didn't change the name during the "time" years why do it now...

jbrownsjr 09-07-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1190297)
Yep...They need Rick to properly play the early FM songs...Didn't change the name during the "time" years why do it now...

I agree.. there's been so many versions of FMac. Even Stevie said, "Hello Christine, it's your band. Mac Vie.. "

SteveMacD 09-07-2016 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1190297)
Yep...They need Rick to properly play the early FM songs...Didn't change the name during the "time" years why do it now...

If you're seriously asking . . .

It would be a way to market to fans of Fleetwood Mac's early years. It tells those fans who it is and what to expect. The Fleetwood Mac brand is more heavily associated with lush pop sounds, not Chicago-style blues.

More importantly, there is an active lineup of Fleetwood Mac, which wasn't the case in 1993, when the "Time" lineup came together. The "Time" lineup was a natural progression in Fleetwood Mac's evolution, lack of success notwithstanding.

aleuzzi 09-07-2016 04:25 PM

I, like so many FM fans, am annoyed with Stevie. But I'm even more annoyed at the remaining members of the band. She wants to tour her album, fine. But Lindsey and Christine should release the duet as an independent project. Period. There's no reason to wait anymore. Just effing do it!

bwboy 09-07-2016 05:14 PM

A Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie would probably sell as well as a solo Lindsey Buckingham record. Read into that comment what you will.

And not that they were top 10 hits, but the two big singles from the Dance were Stevie songs.

aleuzzi 09-07-2016 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1190339)
A Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie would probably sell as well as a solo Lindsey Buckingham record. Read into that comment what you will.

And not that they were top 10 hits, but the two big singles from the Dance were Stevie songs.

Yeah, and both those singles were oldies redone.

As many of us have been saying again and again, sales shouldn't be the determining factor for this band's creative output anymore. They're all millionaires many times over. To cite sales as the determining factor is to allow Stevie to continue doing what she's been doing: holding the band hostage to its own greed.

And besides, I'd prefer a Christine-Lindsey duet album independent of FM. His solo albums and Christine's In the Meantime were quite artistically satisfying.

sue 09-07-2016 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1190302)
I agree.. there's been so many versions of FMac. Even Stevie said, "Hello Christine, it's your band. Mac Vie.. "

I suppose they could be called....
.... Fleetwood Perfect Mac

MikeVielhaber 09-07-2016 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1190339)
A Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie would probably sell as well as a solo Lindsey Buckingham record. Read into that comment what you will.

And not that they were top 10 hits, but the two big singles from the Dance were Stevie songs.

The Fleetwood Mac name would sell more than Lindsey Buckingham. Those two are not on equal ground. It would also sell more than a Stevie Nicks album at this point.

jbrownsjr 09-08-2016 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sue (Post 1190344)
I suppose they could be called....
.... Fleetwood Perfect Mac

Lots of subtext there! lol :laugh:

bwboy 09-08-2016 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1190358)
The Fleetwood Mac name would sell more than Lindsey Buckingham. Those two are not on equal ground. It would also sell more than a Stevie Nicks album at this point.

A FM album without Stevie would not sell more than a Stevie album.

BlueDenimLamp 09-08-2016 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1190411)
A FM album without Stevie would not sell more than a Stevie album.

And the last FM record without Stevie sold how many copies???

SteveMacD 09-08-2016 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1190416)
And the last FM record without Stevie sold how many copies???

Stevie not being on "Time" isn't the sole reason for its failure. There were too many new people with that album . . . and that was just at the label. Mo Ostin and Lenny Waronker, who both firmly prioritized Fleetwood Mac for years, left Warner Music in August, 1994. The new bean counters didn't have that loyalty, and promoted the band accordingly.

Of course, the band expecting fans to warm up to a new lineup most didn't know was a little much to ask. That was a major part of their history between 1967-74, but the game had changed by 1995. Although, to be fair to the band, it's not like "Out of the Cradle" or "Street Angel" amounted to much in the way of sales. If Stevie had been involved, "Time" would have gone from being a miserable failure to a slightly less miserable failure.

bwboy 09-08-2016 01:28 PM

Fleetwood Mac must feel the same way, or they would release an album without Stevie.

olive 09-08-2016 04:32 PM

Kind sad she spent the first have of the year until July 5th with her dog who was dying

elle 09-08-2016 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olive (Post 1190459)
Kind sad she spent the first have of the year until July 5th with her dog who was dying

instead of recording with FM. yeah.

it's pretty clear that she doesn't want to "like record that album like why would she like". there will always be some reason or another why, as has been since 2008.

FM should move on and put album out without her.

BlueDenimLamp 09-20-2016 07:04 PM


jbrownsjr 09-20-2016 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1191403)


Everytime I see those gloves I think of someone with carpal tunnel.. lol

Macfanforever 09-20-2016 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olive (Post 1190459)
Kind sad she spent the first have of the year until July 5th with her dog who was dying

Oh no.Thats sad.

Macfanforever 09-20-2016 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1190427)
Stevie not being on "Time" isn't the sole reason for its failure. There were too many new people with that album . . . and that was just at the label. Mo Ostin and Lenny Waronker, who both firmly prioritized Fleetwood Mac for years, left Warner Music in August, 1994. The new bean counters didn't have that loyalty, and promoted the band accordingly.

Of course, the band expecting fans to warm up to a new lineup most didn't know was a little much to ask. That was a major part of their history between 1967-74, but the game had changed by 1995. Although, to be fair to the band, it's not like "Out of the Cradle" or "Street Angel" amounted to much in the way of sales. If Stevie had been involved, "Time" would have gone from being a miserable failure to a slightly less miserable failure.

I like Time.They did not give enough time to catch on."Pun intended".
the 1987 tour and the 1990 outing with the two new boys in the band did great but I miss Lindsey .The Mac had its share of its employment issues like your local shops or warehouses where there is a revolving door an a continuous stream of people that quit/fired going out and new hires are coming in. .Today with FM and including now .If they"The Mac"Demanded Stevie to record .She should go and do it .Its her employer .Employment insubordination .Any of us try to delay or not obey orders from our employer and end up getting demoted or get FIRED.


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