The best way to get Stevie involved in the studio
 

Here's an idea. Just that - an idea and nothing more.

Why not?

- Add Christine's vocals to all four 2013 E.P. songs
(But: re-record It Takes Times with Chris on piano, change up the accompaniment but keep the melody the same, just add Christine's backing vocals)
The problem with It Takes Time is the piano accompaniment is way too repetitive. Christine could definitely jazz it up a bit and Linds might not mind.
PLUS:
- Ask Stephanie Lynn to contribute ONE brand new song to the album. I understand that she wrote some lyrics following her mother's death? Why not use them for a new song? Maybe a ballad about her mother? I don't know.
THEN:
Make the final new studio album by Fleetwood Mac in this way:
- Sequence it with the re-released EP songs first up
- Followed by Stevie's one new song
- Then all the completed sounds that four of them did in 2014 at Village recorder Studios in Los Angeles e.g. Too Far Gone, Carnival Begin, Red Sun etc.

Is this such a terrible idea? Do you think it would work?

To say, "Hey Stevie. How are you? We were just wondering if you would be able to come into the studio with us four? Don't panic, nothing strenuous. Just one day, in fact. All we want from you is one new song. Not from the vault. We're re-recording the Extended Play songs and they will go on the album, we think. If you like, some vault songs too, would be good but it's not critical. Other than that, just come in for an eight hour day with us, we will do your hours and work around you. Add backing vocals to our songs. What do you say?"

Would she agree, do you think? And why hasn't Lindsey done this already? Or Mick?

Why?


From what we can read into the recent interview Mick gave, they've done all they can to persuade her. He said they've brought out a couple of her old songs and worked on those (I dont know whether he's refering to the EP songs or other old material). She aint interested.

Mick ought to grow a set and give Stevie Nicks an ultimatum.

Those with long memories will know he has done that before.

Remember the 2012 Playboy interview? Mick said that he believed Fleetwood Mac would never tour again.

The result of that interview? Reasonably soon afterwards Stevie Nicks appeared on the talk show Loose Women and said that there would be another Fleetwood Mac tour and that it was a matter of when, not if, it would happen.

If it worked in 2012 it can work in 2016.

And if it doesn't, what does Mick lose? Nothing much really. He might piss her off a bit, but I'd say they ain't as good friends as they used to be even now anyway.

How many times they've done this little acting drama in which they say 'Stevie doesn't want to do this, she doesn't want to do that and we're waiting for her and tried everything to convince her etc'?

Rent her a side room with drapes and candles and sketchbooks and notebooks and incense.

And a dream catcher.

Ha,
One step further...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ga8YiFepud...e-1134x803.jpg

Stevie, darling. This is the recording studio.

At this point, I'm genuinely curious as to what Stevie's reservations are.

I would understand completely if her parents were still alive, and she wanted to spend their remaining time together; but her parents have passed away.

I would get if she didn't want to be the lone female in the studio, being steamrolled by Lindsey. Because let's be honest; John just doesn't give a sh*t and Mick seems to default to the strongest personality; in this case, Lindsey. But Christine is back now, and we all know damned well that Christine has no issues calling a spade a spade.

If she doesn't want Lindsey as a producer, he's already proven he is okay giving up that mantle because Extended Play was an outside job.

If she wanted to do a solo tour, she'd be doing one right now, or would have dates announced for autumn.

If she wanted to work on another solo album, we would have heard about that through her camp, or Dave Stewart's.

For the life of me, I can't figure out what her end game is here. :shrug:

Actually I'm starting to think she wants to rest. She's pretty old now and she's been lamenting various aches and pains and IF she isn't working on Songs From the Vaults 2 (which I hope and approve of) I think she's taking a sabbatical.

Maybe so, but she's still working with others on their projects (School of Rock, Sheryl Crowe, Tom Petty...). I'm afraid she is just over the FM commitment and over working with LB.

Yes but those are all short una tantum happenings, not commitments that require long hours in the studio everyday. She can just go there to add a bit of vocals on somebody else's song, they chit chat and joke a bit, and then she goes home to sip infusion with furry slippers on.

True. Hey, I wouldn't mind if she treated the next Mac album like that either! Contribute two or three songs and then go home while they finish it. But it sounds like she'd rather go out on the road for two years and make big money than contribute nominally to a record.

Like another Tango in the Night? Or like Extended Play... no if we got to have just one last album I want one with her songs on it for real. However I think she's resting and then she'll do something solo, a mini tour or 24 karats gold part 2 and finally she'll go back to the band.

[QUOTE=aleuzzi;1189713]Rent her a side room with drapes and candles and sketchbooks and notebooks and incense.

And a dream catcher.[

Aleuzzi, you are SPOT on! Rent the side room and fill it with the things you mentioned, and don't forget to ADD her handlers, Karen, Sharona, Lori, Waddy, and Dave Stewart. YES!! That's the answer, just make her feel like she's recording a "solo" album with her crew in tow.

Let's face it folks, some people just enjoy the process of being BEGGED. Stevie is not alone. I have a few of those folks as family members and co-workers. You know the ones. They will respectfully decline offers, hoping that someone will see them essential enough to BEG for their presence. SO, MICK.....you know what to do! Now let's get to work!!!!!!!

Yep. :nod:

at this point an electrified cattle prod might do the trick.

Am I the only one here who's been shocked with
one of those things?

Hey, this is a family forum!!!:mad:


No sex stories without pics!:lol:

is there a goat prod?

Only Lindsey, Mick, Joe Walsh, Don Henley, Jimmy Iovine, and every other male musician in SoCo know that answer....:lol:

They could release a different version of IDWTK. And tell her in the parking lot.

Michele

Haha!! most of the shippers didn't get that joke...

Forgot where I was.

No pics, dat's da' rules.

Tell her they will be honoring her with a special award int he studio. She'll show up because all she cares about now is adulation. That's why she likes touring. Her ego is out of control. Former fan here.

and very late to the party ...her ego spun out of control nearly 40 years ago.It is really no moreso now.Most long time fans accept that as part and parcel of being a fan.

I don't think Stevie gives a flying f@$k anymore about being involved in the making of another FM album and hasn't for a long time. She seems far more focused on her solo career.

Bottom line: Stevie, just throw in the towel and stop dragging our patience around....

She can go into the studio and cover this great classic tune and concentrate on her solo stuff and tours for rest of her life.Its fine with me.



I'm glad that shes taking a moment to solo tour now.

I would love to see her cover Johnny's TTJASI with an attitude.

2 and a half years ago every frikking ledgie would have signed this statement: do you want a new FM album? Just get Christine back in the band and in the studio, and she'll come running.


Not the slightest chance. And that is simply unbearable. Unfair and selfish. Point.

Sorry but the fact that FM has not put out any new material since "SYW" is 100% Mick, John, Lindsey's and now Christine's fault...

Sometime after the tour they became aware of the fact that Stevie would be taking her usual 2 or 3 year vacation away from FM...

With the tour ending the better part of a year ago (it's now September) so they have had ample time to decide what it is they are doing next...

What are they doing??? Nothing... They will continue to wait on Stevie just like they always do...

The bands actions speak louder than words...The bands actions show just how "Unfair and selfish" they really are...

Will they do something without Stevie??? "Not the slightest chance. And that is simply unbearable (for the fans) Unfair and selfish (to the fans) Point"

The band will not willingly scale down what is FM...Their egos and bank accounts mean far to much to them...

As a side note Tom Petty recently put his pre-Heartbreakers band "Mudcrutch" back together recorded an album and toured behind it...

Did he make record sums of $$$???? Probably not but I bet he got a lot of enjoyment out of the process...If only FM could put their egos & bank accounts aside and do something "Just for fun"

Extended Play was new material.

"Without You" is a 35 year old "Buckingham Nicks" song that FM simply re-recorded...3 new songs in 13 years is quite a productive streak...

Sadly, they aren't. Stevie is the only one even suggesting she might do something unprecedented with 24KG... First by merely recording this album of old demos, and now touring behind it with the promise of alternative setlists and songs rarely played. When it comes down to it, she acknowledges that a new FM album will probably not sell well and yet she's the only one saying they might go back to their roots by making an album just for the fun of it. She has done something so innovative even before 24KG, when she gave us Enchanted.

Furthermore, look at her promoting her new tour -- she's all over the media giving interviews and putting herself out there right now. Are the other members capable of this kind of self-promotion?

I think Stevie really is just sensitive. I think FM could literally sweet talk her back in the studio just by acting like they appreciate her.

Something tells me she has layed down some tracks and has added her vocals to previous recorded songs by the group so Lindsey has something to work on for the next 90 days.

I'm not sure putting out a greatest hits compilation with a few additional unreleased tracks and soundtrack songs qualifies as "innovative". It's pretty standard. And there are far better boxed sets out there... The Heartbreakers' "Playback" was one....

Stevie has never seemed like one who lives for awards. She seems more invested in her fans rather than critical acclaim.

I like your optimism. I don't want to hope....but....

Stevie's aggressive self-promotion and concern for her posterity have little to do with keeping current and viable as an artist. She's still riding the "I wrote Landslide" train. Meanwhile LB and CM have written and recorded new material.

At the end of the day, she could and should do what she wants. But LB and CM shouldn't wait for her. They should release the music as a duet.

Sorry mate. Something tells me that's sooooo wishful thinking.
SHE JUST ISN'T INTERESTED

I can't remember where it was mentioned but it was suggested they had worked on a couple of old recordings. I get the impression that was more of an effort by the others to entice her in rather than her being directly involved as a means for creating new material.

If they don't do something together (or even solo) then I'd be surprised with Lindsey in particular. Lets wait and see what Christine has to say in this recent interview she did.