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welcomechris 06-06-2016 08:16 PM

2016 Presidential Election (#3)
 
It's Official:

According to the AP, Hillary is the presumptive democratic nominee for POTUS. She has passed her required delegates to grab the nomination, because of the Puerto Rico primary.

Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Gary Johnson, and Jill Stein will all be on the ballet.

We have now narrowed our three, debatable threads down to this one.... Who will win the presidency?

Macfanforever 06-06-2016 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1185327)
Crisis Of Character: A White House Secret Service Officer
Discloses His First Hand Experience With Hillary, Bill, And
How They Operate- Gary J. Byrne
. Due June 28, 2016.


Already number 1 on Amazon's book chart. Wonder if Hillary
is worried about this? Thanks Matt Drudge.

I tried posting this seconds ago and part two was locked up.Now with the carry over post.

Also Matt's friend Alex Jones.Also there is a Clinton movie at Cannes Film Festival that looks interesting .Also this book looks like a good read from Roger Stone.The Clintons' War on Women {By Roger Stone with Robert Morrow}

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/...iering-cannes/

Macfanforever 06-06-2016 08:26 PM

I dont know much about Dr Stein.John McAfee from McAfee antivirus is also running.

welcomechris 06-06-2016 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1185351)
I dont know much about Dr Stein.John McAfee from McAfee antivirus is also running.

Is he going to be on the ballet though? I'm just putting the people guaranteed on the ballet right now

BlueDenimLamp 06-06-2016 08:52 PM

2016 Presidential Election/ Permenent Thread
 
Starting this thread so people have a place to share / post / debate whatever news articles / opinions /pictures or anything else relating to the 2016 election they feel like sharing WITHOUT having to worry about it (the thread) randomly being closed...

So these are some current issues..

Will Bernie continue his fight all the way to the convention?

Will the "Tell All" book coming out by the former Secret Service agent about Hillary have an impact on her viability as a candidate?

Will Hillary be indicted ?

Will Donald Trump calm down with his rhetoric and start to make some sense?

If Hillary is brought up on charges who will replace her as candidate?

How will Donald Trump hold up in the debates against Hillary...Or if she is removed, Bernie, Biden or whoever takes her place...

The thread is now open...GO!!!

Macfanforever 06-06-2016 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1185352)
Is he going to be on the ballet though? I'm just putting the people guaranteed on the ballet right now

Thats a good question.It got be looked up.

Macfanforever 06-06-2016 09:00 PM

I hope Bernie will fight with her at the convention.Mr Trump more likely beat Bernie but he probably will have resistance with Mr Biden that if Hillary gets tossed out due to her issues.I think Mr Trump wont calm down or wimp out and be presidential as he said in an interview.

BlueDenimLamp 06-06-2016 09:02 PM



Bills brother has been arrested for DUI...I bet he's hopping Hillary will get elected so she can give him a pardon if he's convicted.

Macfanforever 06-06-2016 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1185361)


Bills brother has been arrested for DUI...I bet he's hopping Hillary will get elected so she can give him a pardon if he's convicted.

I heard that on the radio tonight.Or Obama gets him off.

BlueDenimLamp 06-06-2016 09:15 PM



Hillary may not to want to count her chicken before they're hatched...

Hillary has some 575 "Super Delegates" who can vote for whoever they feel like...If something truly scandalous happens before the convention and they flip and go with Bernie there's still an outside chance he could win...With polls showing Bernie having an easier time beating Trump than Clinton...

Bernie is still doing the math...If Hillary loses her "Super Delegates" right now and they go with Bernie he would be around 350 votes ahead of Clinton.

welcomechris 06-06-2016 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1185359)
Thats a good question.It got be looked up.

Yeah, It would be interesting though

welcomechris 06-06-2016 09:21 PM

The way I had it was pretty organized... and if you read what I wrote, that was it! That was the last thread because now we know who will be on the ballet...

Please merge this thread with 2016 Presidential Election (#3)

BlueDenimLamp 06-06-2016 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1185364)
I heard that on the radio tonight.Or Obama gets him off.

There's been a thing going around saying that the last thing Obama will do as President will be to issue a Hillary a Presidential pardon and the first thing Hillary will do as President will be to issue a pardon to Obama.

welcomechris 06-06-2016 09:23 PM

I wonder if Senator Sanders will endorse Secretary Clinton.

louielouie2000 06-06-2016 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1185370)
I wonder if Senator Sanders will endorse Secretary Clinton.

Odds are very high that he will. Hillary Clinton ran her campaign against Barack Obama until the very end of the primary season in 2008, just like Bernie Sanders has done against her, yet Clinton did endorse Obama in the end. Not just that, she went on to work in his administration. The 2008 primary campaign was every bit as acrimonious as this one. Sanders will tow the party line. As a self proclaimed socialist and populist, he has little choice other than to unite behind the party & its nominee. Will he continue doing everything he can publicly and privately to push his agenda upon Clinton? I think that's a certainty.

To me, the more interesting question is what will happen to Sanders after the general election. I cannot foresee Clinton would chose him as her running mate. So will he just return to being a senator and sort of a party elder who tries to push the democrats leftward? Or will he be asked to be in a possible Clinton cabinet?

Macfanforever 06-06-2016 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1185369)
There's been a thing going around saying that the last thing Obama will do as President will be to issue a Hillary a Presidential pardon and the first thing Hillary will do as President will be to issue a pardon to Obama.

Yea.I heard the same too.I found this guy on Mr Jones YT channel.LOL............



Macfanforever 06-06-2016 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1185370)
I wonder if Senator Sanders will endorse Secretary Clinton.

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1185372)
Odds are very high that he will. Hillary Clinton ran her campaign against Barack Obama until the very end of the primary season in 2008, just like Bernie Sanders has done against her, yet Clinton did endorse Obama in the end. Not just that, she went on to work in his administration. The 2008 primary campaign was every bit as acrimonious as this one. Sanders will tow the party line. As a self proclaimed socialist and populist, he has little choice other than to unite behind the party & its nominee. Will he continue doing everything he can publicly and privately to push his agenda upon Clinton? I think that's a certainty.

To me, the more interesting question is what will happen to Sanders after the general election. I cannot foresee Clinton would chose him as her running mate. So will he just return to being a senator and sort of a party elder who tries to push the democrats leftward? Or will he be asked to be in a possible Clinton cabinet?

That would be interesting .They will bury the hatchet with all the things they said and team up. Atlease he will get the VP position and his voters will be alittle happier and vote for her instead of voting for a 3 party and Mr Trump. She could offer him a position in her cabinet.Stuff between them was not bad as Mr Trump and his 16 or 17 opponents .Of course lets see what will happen at the DNC convention.

louielouie2000 06-06-2016 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1185376)
That would be interesting .They will bury the hatchet with all the things they said and team up. Atlease he will get the VP position and his voters will be alittle happier and vote for her instead of voting for a 3 party and Mr Trump. She could offer him a position in her cabinet.Stuff between them was not bad as Mr Trump and his 16 or 17 opponents .Of course lets see what will happen at the DNC convention.

I cannot fathom Clinton offering Sanders to be her running mate, nor could I see him accepting it. With both nominations sewn up, now begins the waiting game for who the candidates will chose as their running mates, though. If history is a guide, that will come to pass in late August. It will be most interesting to see who would accept a Trump running mate position, given the unusual campaign trail he has blazed. Will Trump pull a wildcard, or would a cautious, well vetted choice be the wildcard here? Whomever Clinton chooses will be boring in comparison.

BombaySapphire3 06-07-2016 12:38 AM

I started voting in 1980 when I turned 18..I can't remember a more dismal and tragic choice between the 2 major party candidates.

BlueDenimLamp 06-07-2016 05:17 AM

California Could Mar Clinton's Victory Parade
 
California could be Bernie Sanders' last stand, but losing to him would mean a limp across the finish line for Hillary Clinton.

Amanda Walker US Correspondent

It's eight years to the day that Hillary Clinton withdrew from the race against then Senator Barack Obama.

She's hoping her current rival will follow suit now that the latest Associated Press count indicates she has reached the necessary number of delegates to clinch the Democratic nomination.

Dogged to the last, Bernie Sanders has other ideas.

On Monday, raspy-voiced after months on the campaign trail, he insisted he will not back down.

Bernie Sanders Campaigns In California Ahead Of State Primary
Bernie Sanders has won 20 states and more than 10 million votes

His hope is that a good performance in tomorrow's primaries could sway superdelegates, who are free to support any candidate.

Because superdelegates can change their minds up until the party's convention in July, Mr Sanders argues that Mrs Clinton will not officially have clinched anything.

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attends a panel on healthcare in San Juan Play video "Who is Hillary Clinton?"

He said: "When we started this campaign a little over a year ago in Burlington, Vermont I think people ... thought this campaign would not go very far."

They did and they were wrong.

While the noise of the Trump show has drowned out most things in its path, the Sanders campaign has maintained its ability to astonish - enthusing young voters and consistently drawing huge crowds.

He's won 20 states and more than 10 million votes.

The senator from Vermont has proved himself a force to be reckoned with against a formidable opponent.

But California could be his last stand. It's America's largest and one of its most progressive states. It really matters for Mrs Clinton.

The polls put her in a virtual tie against Mr Sanders with three recent polls all showing her leading by just 2%.

Losing to Mr Sanders would mean an embarrassing limp across the finish line after a hard-fought race.

If she wins it sets the stage for a stronger fight against presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump.

For Mr Sanders it leaves a tough dilemma - stay in or quit the race.

Mrs Clinton has the experience, money and support that should have made this look easy.

In California, Hollywood royalty including George Clooney, Tom Hanks, Leonardo DiCaprio and Ben Affleck are rallying around her.

But Mr Sanders is also in good company - Susan Sarandon is a vehement follower and Steven Spielberg is also "Feeling the Bern".

Mr Sanders insist he's the candidate who can win against Mr Trump in November's election.

There are numerous opinion polls that back that theory.

His current game plan would see neither him nor Mrs Clinton with enough pledged delegates, making July's convention a contested one.

An anti-establishment candidate getting party faithful superdelegates to switch sides is a long shot.

But Mr Sanders seems intent on giving it a go

Sky News

welcomechris 06-07-2016 06:47 AM

It will be interesting to see who wins California tonight...

BlueDenimLamp 06-07-2016 11:34 AM



Looks like another controversy brewing...

BlueDenimLamp 06-07-2016 11:43 AM



In other political news...

BlueDenimLamp 06-07-2016 12:23 PM



Christie defending Trump...Wonder if he expects something in return.

welcomechris 06-07-2016 01:02 PM

with Newt and Marco criticizing Trump, I wouldn't think they would be included on his VP ticket...

BlueDenimLamp 06-07-2016 01:40 PM








Hillary has not won anything yet!!!

As the banner says "Super delegates" don't vote till JULY 25!!!
Until then your vote matters...Don't let the media machine tell you otherwise...

BombaySapphire3 06-07-2016 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1185426)
with Newt and Marco criticizing Trump, I wouldn't think they would be included on his VP ticket...

Guess he will have to get Sarah Palin:laugh:

SisterNightroad 06-07-2016 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1185419)


In other political news...

Circa an hour ago newscast said he's not in danger.
However how does this concern US elections?

BlueDenimLamp 06-07-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1185434)
Circa an hour ago newscast said he's not in danger.
However how does this concern US elections?

Notice it says "other" political news..."Other" meaning not pertaining to the US election.

SisterNightroad 06-07-2016 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1185436)
Notice it says "other" political news..."Other" meaning not pertaining to the US election.

Yes I noticed, I was just asking myself why this news was so important that America concerns itself with it. It's not the first time the former Cavaliere has been hospitalized, and it won't be the last since he's 80 years old now.

Macfanforever 06-07-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1185432)







Hillary has not won anything yet!!!

As the banner says "Super delegates" don't vote till JULY 25!!!
Until then your vote matters...Don't let the media machine tell you otherwise...

Yea .Bernie is getting the royal screwdriver job from you know who.I cant wait for the DNC convention in Philly next month.

Macfanforever 06-07-2016 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1185424)


Christie defending Trump...Wonder if he expects something in return.

He's looking for a cabinet job if Mr Trump gets in.

Macfanforever 06-07-2016 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1185383)
I cannot fathom Clinton offering Sanders to be her running mate, nor could I see him accepting it. With both nominations sewn up, now begins the waiting game for who the candidates will chose as their running mates, though. If history is a guide, that will come to pass in late August. It will be most interesting to see who would accept a Trump running mate position, given the unusual campaign trail he has blazed. Will Trump pull a wildcard, or would a cautious, well vetted choice be the wildcard here? Whomever Clinton chooses will be boring in comparison.

Yes.As I was thinking later it would be a no go.Its like Mr Trump asking one of the 17 opponents for the VP job after he mowed over them on the debates and social media.

Macfanforever 06-07-2016 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1185393)
I started voting in 1980 when I turned 18..I can't remember a more dismal and tragic choice between the 2 major party candidates.


Thats the time that I first went to the polls.We had the Iran hostage crisis going on and other stuff going on.It was the former Actor /Governor of California Vs a former peanut farmer , Governor of Georgia and a sitting 39th president of the United States.

Quote:

Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1185405)
It will be interesting to see who wins California tonight...

We know Mr Trump will win since he is running by his self.Hillary will find her was to win Cali and the other states and put Bernie outside looking in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1185426)
with Newt and Marco criticizing Trump, I wouldn't think they would be included on his VP ticket...

Yea..It looks like Newt is out for VP.

BlueDenimLamp 06-07-2016 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1185439)
Yes I noticed, I was just asking myself why this news was so important that America concerns itself with it. It's not the first time the former Cavaliere has been hospitalized, and it won't be the last since he's 80 years old now.

Perhaps it's the same reason why foreigners are so interested in American politics...With the Internet everything is global...

FuzzyPlum 06-07-2016 03:38 PM

I think the rest of the world is always interested in American politics as the American economy and foreign policy has such a major impact on world affairs. That's the case for me anyway. I can't always get my head around American election arrangements though- there seem to be quirks that sometimes feel a bit....undemocratic.

Macfanforever 06-07-2016 03:41 PM

Songs for Hillary that sums it up for her.









welcomechris 06-07-2016 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1185452)
Thats the time that I first went to the polls.We had the Iran hostage crisis going on and other stuff going on.It was the former Actor /Governor of California Vs a former peanut farmer , Governor of Georgia and a sitting 39th president of the United States.



We know Mr Trump will win since he is running by his self.Hillary will find her was to win Cali and the other states and put Bernie outside looking in.



Yea..It looks like Newt is out for VP.

Cali will be close tonight for the democrats

SisterNightroad 06-07-2016 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1185459)
Perhaps it's the same reason why foreigners are so interested in American politics...With the Internet everything is global...

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1185460)
I think the rest of the world is always interested in American politics as the American economy and foreign policy has such a major impact on world affairs. That's the case for me anyway. I can't always get my head around American election arrangements though- there seem to be quirks that sometimes feel a bit....undemocratic.

Ditto.
And Berlusconi's death at this time doesn't impact world politics anymore. I guess he's become such a character that he's still part of the Italian cultural image in the world. So sad.
If other countries were really on touch with Italian politics they should be worried about the upcoming costitutional referendum.

BlueDenimLamp 06-07-2016 04:45 PM

Bernie & Hillary Duets
 









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