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welcomechris 05-15-2016 04:13 PM

2016 Presidential Election (#2)
 
Here is the new and improved updated thread!

Share your opinion of the 2016 Election!

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-15-2016 05:09 PM

I cast my vote, but I prefer to keep who I voted for, private.

Macfanforever 05-15-2016 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183698)
I cast my vote, but I prefer to keep who I voted for, private.

I agree.I;m just waiting for the major mud slinging between more likely with Hillary and Mr Trump.

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-15-2016 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1183713)
I agree.I;m just waiting for the major mud slinging between more likely with Hillary and Mr Trump.

I'm waiting for that, too. I'll make sure that I have some popcorn ready!

Macfanforever 05-15-2016 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183714)
I'm waiting for that, too. I'll make sure that I have some popcorn ready!

Yea .It will be more interesting then reading the Rumours forum threads about when the new album will get released.

I agree .It will be a circus or a carnival but with out the rides.So eating popcorn and add some Coke and it will be ok and it will stay down. .LOL.

iamnotafraid 05-15-2016 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183698)
I cast my vote, but I prefer to keep who I voted for, private.

Chicken...

Macfan4life 05-16-2016 05:47 PM

This board is very civil. Everyone is very respectful.
I belong to a cruising message board and fights break out so often just over cruising and cruise ship reviews. Many times the moderators have to delete the entire thread.
No one should be afraid to discuss anything. Politics included. I love the stories of couples, or husbands and wives who drive together to the polling place and each vote for the other candidate, sort of cancelling out each other's vote. That's love. That is respect.
No one is more independent than me. I used to be a democrat in the late 80's, then independent, then republican, then independent again, and republican again.
Both parties are more alike than they want you to believe. Each use wedge issues to sway easily swayed voters with emotion.
As Ron Paul says....one party believes in really really big government and the other party believes in really really really big government.
This was the year for a good third party candidate. I just don't think I could vote for any republicans these days and am going to change my party affiliation again. I live in Florida so my vote really counts ;)

BombaySapphire3 05-16-2016 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1183798)
This board is very civil.)

There were a few times ..now receding into history when civil war may have been a more accurate way to describe it.:laugh:

Macfanforever 05-17-2016 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1183798)
This board is very civil. Everyone is very respectful.
I belong to a cruising message board and fights break out so often just over cruising and cruise ship reviews. Many times the moderators have to delete the entire thread.
No one should be afraid to discuss anything. Politics included. I love the stories of couples, or husbands and wives who drive together to the polling place and each vote for the other candidate, sort of cancelling out each other's vote. That's love. That is respect.
No one is more independent than me. I used to be a democrat in the late 80's, then independent, then republican, then independent again, and republican again.
Both parties are more alike than they want you to believe. Each use wedge issues to sway easily swayed voters with emotion.
As Ron Paul says....one party believes in really really big government and the other party believes in really really really big government.
This was the year for a good third party candidate. I just don't think I could vote for any republicans these days and am going to change my party affiliation again. I live in Florida so my vote really counts ;)

Good post.More friction/fights and hot topic discussions in the Rumours threads then here where we would expect it.I try the best to stay neutral on the candidates here.I think John McAfee is running under indie like Ross Perot. It will be interesting when the conventions go on and they will turn the tables and end up with different candidates that we have now in the line up.

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-17-2016 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1183729)
Chicken...

CLUCK, CLUCK, CLUCK.....
I don't think I have to reveal my political belifes. I know if I did it might open up a can of worms, and turn welcomechris's thread upside down, which I don't want to do. Political discussions can get ugly at the drop of a hat....

Wdm6789 05-17-2016 11:51 AM

I still find it troubling that Hillary might win. Will anything be different if she wins? Probably not. But like I said in the other thread, Hillary is a paradigm of the kind of people we need to get out of positions of power. She's an elitist, corrupt, career politician. I'm tired of those people running the country and stealing our money. Not to mention Hillary is involved in several scandals right now, is that not foreshadowing her presidency?

Newzchspy 05-17-2016 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183851)
CLUCK, CLUCK, CLUCK.....
I don't think I have to reveal my political belifes. I know if I did it might open up a can of worms, and turn welcomechris's thread upside down, which I don't want to do. Political discussions can get ugly at the drop of a hat....

WHY?? ONLY if we let them. The one thing we all have in common is a love and appreciation for anything Stevie or FM.........

FuzzyPlum 05-17-2016 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1183855)
I still find it troubling that Hillary might win.

I'm not American but I find it downright scary theres a chance Trump could win. If he becomes the 'most powerful person in the world' then I'd really like to emigrate to Mars. I hope reality will soon start to kick in. If it's scandal you want though, Drumpf's your man.

SisterNightroad 05-17-2016 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1183864)
I'm not American but I find it downright scary theres a chance Trump could win. If he becomes the 'most powerful person in the world' then I'd really like to emigrate to Mars. I hope reality will soon start to kick in. If it's scandal you want though, Drumpf's your man.

I think the exact same thing. Berlusconi 2...

Newzchspy 05-17-2016 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1183864)
I'm not American but I find it downright scary theres a chance Trump could win. If he becomes the 'most powerful person in the world' then I'd really like to emigrate to Mars. I hope reality will soon start to kick in. If it's scandal you want though, Drumpf's your man.

Good luck on that trip to Mars!! :):) Round trip is about 2.5 years, so you'll be missing a LOT of Stevie and FM news in that time!!

MoonSister75 05-17-2016 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1183864)
I'm not American but I find it downright scary theres a chance Trump could win. If he becomes the 'most powerful person in the world' then I'd really like to emigrate to Mars. I hope reality will soon start to kick in. If it's scandal you want though, Drumpf's your man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1183868)
I think the exact same thing. Berlusconi 2...

Yes too scary for words, the man appears to be a menace :shrug: He can't win, surely....

SisterNightroad 05-17-2016 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonSister75 (Post 1183875)
Yes too scary for words, the man appears to be a menace :shrug: He can't win, surely....

We thought the same thing about Berlusconi.

FuzzyPlum 05-17-2016 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newzchspy (Post 1183874)
Good luck on that trip to Mars!! :):) Round trip is about 2.5 years, so you'll be missing a LOT of Stevie and FM news in that time!!

Hmmm. At this rate I reckon I'd be back in time for a new album release.

MoonSister75 05-17-2016 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1183876)
We thought the same thing about Berlusconi.

It's hard to trust any politicians, but there's the odd one that seems to be far worse than the others

SisterNightroad 05-17-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoonSister75 (Post 1183881)
It's hard to trust any politicians, but there's the odd one that seems to be far worse than the others

Yes, but their oddity makes them actually more appoachable, people think they aren't dangerous and let heir guard down and then it's when they gain the upper hand.
You have to think that the more something is simple the most people will like it. Politicians that use a communication style that's under the average, with very simple (simplistic in this case) concepts and words will appeal to that great slice of population that has an education and/or a critical sense under the average levels.
And you find yourself with a premier that appoints a showgirl "minister for the equal opportunities".

Macfan4life 05-17-2016 04:58 PM

This election comes down to a man baby vs career politician.
I could be wrong but the demographics of the United States have changed so much over the past 10 years, I am betting on the career politician.

One interesting thing we can discuss is who do you think will be the running mates of Trump and Clinton. Here is my guess (I am usually always right). Ha ha

Trump - Joni Earnst (sp) Senator from Iowa. She checks all the boxes. She is a woman, she is a tea party candidate to sure up conservatives, she served in the military so she can talk about the military, and she is from a swing state. She would be the ultimate attack dog against Clinton.

Clinton - my bet was always on Sherrod Brown of Ohio. He comes from a huge swing state. He is left of Clinton and is a champion of unions, something Clinton is lacking. But Clinton keeps getting weaker, she may have to go further left to lift up the base. This is a base election so that will really count.

What do you guys think?

olive 05-17-2016 05:23 PM

my observation is trump will win there are too many poorly educated ( trump's words not mine ) crazed 'murican who do not understand politics and and will vote for his based on him feeding into their fears and ignorance , playing to their prejudices of anyone non hetro , non white and not born in this country .


the only thing that will save us from this is the educated republican who votes for Hilary

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-17-2016 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newzchspy (Post 1183860)
WHY?? ONLY if we let them. The one thing we all have in common is a love and appreciation for anything Stevie or FM.........

Okay. I'll be frank. I think Mr. Trump is a bufoon and I support Sanders. There. I said it.

iamnotafraid 05-17-2016 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183910)
I support Sanders.

Percentage wise how much more of your money
are you willing to give the government?

I'm writing in Jack White on my ballot.

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-17-2016 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1183912)
Percentage wise how much more of your money
are you willing to give the government?

I'm writing in Jack White on my ballot.

Personally, I do not care if you think I'm a flake for supporting Sanders. I have NEVER supported (or liked) Hillary and I think Trump is a bigot. So, yes, I'm happy with my choice.

iamnotafraid 05-17-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183915)
Personally, I do not care if you think I'm a flake for supporting Sanders.

I don't think I've ever implied that.

I'm not voting for any of them btw.

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-17-2016 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1183917)
I don't think I've ever implied that.

I'm not voting for any of them btw.

Its late and I am dead tired, and I guess I accidentally misinturpeted what you said. If I offended you in any way, I didn't mean to. I am :sorry:

iamnotafraid 05-17-2016 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183920)
If I offended you in any way, I didn't mean to. I am :sorry:

No need to apologize to me. It'd take a lot more
to offend me.

Macfanforever 05-17-2016 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183851)
CLUCK, CLUCK, CLUCK.....
I don't think I have to reveal my political belifes. I know if I did it might open up a can of worms, and turn welcomechris's thread upside down, which I don't want to do. Political discussions can get ugly at the drop of a hat....

The only way this could get real ugly is Stevie and Lindsey are running mates and us will be fighting off the wall on who should be Pres and VP also the rest of Mac as their cabinet position .LOL.................

Oregon polls just closed and the results are coming in
now.

So far at 38 percent reporting..From Google News..

Mr Trump 64.2%

50,286


Bernie 57.8%
107,083


Hillary 42.2%
78,256


It looks like a bad day for Mrs C.Mr Sanders is picking up steam.

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-17-2016 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1183926)
The only way this could get real ugly is Stevie and Lindsey are running mates and us will be fighting off the wall on who should be Pres and VP also the rest of Mac as their cabinet position .LOL.................

Oregon polls just closed and the results are coming in
now.

So far at 38 percent reporting..From Google News..

Mr Trump 64.2%

50,286


Bernie 57.8%
107,083


Hillary 42.2%
78,256


It looks like a bad day for Mrs C.Mr Sanders is picking up steam.

I would vote for Stevie!

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-17-2016 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1183924)
No need to apologize to me. It'd take a lot more
to offend me.

I am glad that there are no hard feelings. Have a good a night. I am going to sleep!

Macfanforever 05-17-2016 10:34 PM

Some of you probably think that I like Mr Trump.I do like Mr Trump.I'll be surprised that he and Hillary did not get tossed out from running. The problem with Ms Hillary is that she has to much crap that she was or is involve in.I do agree that she has the political experience to do the job.Mr Trump has zero experience in politics and he can use his business background to keep him going. I cant say to much about Bernie since I did not finish studying his background.

I have a funny feeling that some thing is up at the conventions and they will come up with a set of new candidates on each side since Hillary has her issues from her past life and Mr Trump turning things upside down with the rep party.

So in November .Who knows who will be running.

Macfanforever 05-17-2016 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183927)
I would vote for Stevie!

Me Too.:] LOL... Ooh here comes the arguments.LOL.................................

Macfanforever 05-17-2016 10:37 PM

The VP running mates would be interesting.I cant wait to see who they will be.

~*BellaDonna*~ 05-17-2016 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1183933)
The VP running mates would be interesting.I cant wait to see who they will be.

Should be interesting to find out, though I don't speculate on it too much.

Macfanforever 05-17-2016 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*BellaDonna*~ (Post 1183937)
Should be interesting to find out, though I don't speculate on it too much.

Yea .I agree.

I just got the word that Bernie won Oregon.Plus Mr Trump won too.Ever with the last two candidate quit.

Wdm6789 05-18-2016 10:46 AM

To put it simply:

Hillary will just keep being a corrupt politician

Bernie thinks billionaires are bad guys so we need more government to limit people's success

Trump thinks we need more billionaires and less government to boost the economy.

In my opinion, I think people should get to enjoy all the rewards of their labor. Most successful people worked very hard for their success, they deserve to enjoy everything they work for.

elle 05-18-2016 08:52 PM

we have a person who thinks Americans should live as worry-free about their healthcare and education as Danes.

we have a person who thinks that people who work extremely hard, yet they can barely make ends meet, should not pay more taxes than extremely rich people who may work just as hard.

we have a person who opted to be a public servant instead of making tons of money in private sector.

we have a person labelled as crooked on the basis of mud being thrown at them by opponents for decades, so now it's being perceived as truth whether or not that's the case.

we have a person who throws out several lies per day while calling others liars.

we have a person with questionable business practices, who is vindictive and threatens everyone who doesn't kiss their a$$.

iamnotafraid 05-18-2016 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1184019)
we have a person with questionable business practices, who is vindictive and threatens everyone who doesn't kiss their a$$.

I'm not running elle.

Macfan4life 05-19-2016 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1183984)
To put it simply:

Hillary will just keep being a corrupt politician

Bernie thinks billionaires are bad guys so we need more government to limit people's success

Trump thinks we need more billionaires and less government to boost the economy.

In my opinion, I think people should get to enjoy all the rewards of their labor. Most successful people worked very hard for their success, they deserve to enjoy everything they work for.

You are correct but Trump is a carnival barker and snake oil salesman. He has no idea how government works. He changes his positions every day. CEO's also would make the worst presidents. They are used to getting their way 100% of the time. We are not hiring a reality TV personality. We are electing a president. Sadly low information masses are so discouraged they don't care. We laugh at Maduro in Venezuela with everyday his conspiracy theories and outrageous statements. I see Trump the same way. He tries to bully and demean people instead of seriously talking about issues. That is what Maduro does every day in Venezuela. We don't need a 3rd world dictator as president of the United States.


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