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Macfan4life 11-30-2015 04:46 PM

Was Don't Stop a recorded track for the Inaugural Ball in 1993?
 
I was listening to a bunch of Christine McVie interviews she did in 2004 to promote her In The Meantime album. During one interview she talks about how the band reunited in 1993 for Don't Stop. She says something like "we could not use the Rumours version so we had to go to the studio"
The only implication I could make from that line is that there was a pre-recorded track the band played to during that night. I never knew this but it would make sense. Anyone else ever hear this?
I posted all the interviews on the Christine McVie threads.

sywlindseyfan 11-30-2015 06:03 PM

Yes, I believe they did. Chris could also be talking about how they rehearsed for the live performance (although I read somewhere that Chris has mentioned her piano wasn't even working on stage.)

Macfan4life 11-30-2015 06:08 PM

It also could explain how the song went on forever without an ending LOL. If they went so far to tape Stevie's tambourine they took NO chances :eek: The microphones were on but it appears some/most of the track was pre-recorded. Interesting stuff listening to rare interviews.

olive 11-30-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1175835)
It also could explain how the song went on forever without an ending LOL. If they went so far to tape Stevie's tambourine they took NO chances :eek: The microphones were on but it appears some/most of the track was pre-recorded. Interesting stuff listening to rare interviews.

its shorter than then version on the dance , considering they had to play through the credits

PenguinHead 12-01-2015 12:23 AM

What possible reason would there be for them not to be able to perform the song live? Does her quote mean "we couldn't fake the studio album take, so we recorded another version to fake perform." ???

Macfan4life 12-01-2015 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1175847)
What possible reason would there be for them not to be able to perform the song live? Does her quote mean "we couldn't fake the studio album take, so we recorded another version to fake perform." ???

They had not played the song together in 10 years (with Lindsey). But even the rest of the band had not played it live in almost 2 years. Was it live TV? I think maybe they were extra cautious with some pre-recorded tracks. If they kept Stevie's tambourine silent it shows how they really wanted to control the sound.
Its funny because I remember at the time the press asked the band if they were going to have any trouble playing it since they had not played together so long. They said no, they could play the song in their sleep.
I will have to listen to the quote again but I am certain she said "we could not use the Rumours version so had to go to the studio.

Edit: Listen at 1:15 (one hour fifteen, not one minute) when she starts talking about 1992 and Clinton using the song. They sung Don't Stop Live but there was a pre-recorded track they played along to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zuu...o9eUVw&index=1

FuzzyPlum 12-01-2015 01:50 PM

I'd guess it wasn't the band but the powers that be. It was obviously a really important occasion so perhaps the Clinton 'machine' or the TV network/s wanted to ensure there were no technical problems. I suppose somebody behind the scenes insisted they pre-record a 'live' take.

Macfan4life 12-01-2015 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1175872)
I'd guess it wasn't the band but the powers that be. It was obviously a really important occasion so perhaps the Clinton 'machine' or the TV network/s wanted to ensure there were no technical problems. I suppose somebody behind the scenes insisted they pre-record a 'live' take.

I think this was the band's decision. Lindsey had not performed that song in over 10 years and the group was sort of broken up for the past 2 years. I think they wanted to be safe than sorry. Its funny because I doubt anyone would have known if Chris had not said anything.

lilyfee 12-01-2015 09:32 PM

I think this is common practice for presidential events. Beyonce came under fire I think during President Obama's reelection for pre-recording and lipsyncing the national anthem... I don't get the shock personally... It's a national government event. They just wouldn't take the chance of something going wrong.:shrug:

Macfanforever 12-01-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lilyfee (Post 1175894)
I think this is common practice for presidential events. Beyonce came under fire I think during President Obama's reelection for pre-recording and lipsyncing the national anthem... I don't get the shock personally... It's a national government event. They just wouldn't take the chance of something going wrong.:shrug:

I rather take a chance hitting a sour note singing the national anthem or any other song live then something going wrong with a pre recorded sound track.If the CD/tape/record or digital file starts skipping or speeds up or slows down.That blooper will be more notice then hitting a sour note singing it live.

landslide95 12-02-2015 03:44 AM

Wow, never knew it was pre-recorded. Have to say though that when I first watched the inaugural ball I thought it sounded kinda bad to be honest :shrug:

Macfan4life 12-02-2015 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by landslide95 (Post 1175900)
Wow, never knew it was pre-recorded. Have to say though that when I first watched the inaugural ball I thought it sounded kinda bad to be honest :shrug:

I was working nights in 1993 and did not see this on tv. I was listening to the radio at work and the talk show host was raving about the ball except Fleetwood Mac. She said something like...."they made a big deal that Fleetwood Mac reunited in over 10 years but they sounded horrible. If this is what a reunited Fleetwood Mac sounds like they should never reunite.

I had my sister record it on the VCR and watched it when I got home. It was not horrible but I thought their version in 1990 that I saw live with Billy and Rick was much better.

landslide95 12-02-2015 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1175903)
I had my sister record it on the VCR and watched it when I got home. It was not horrible but I thought their version in 1990 that I saw live with Billy and Rick was much better.

I agree that it wasn't horrible but they didn't sound too great either. Didn't Stevie say that she was so embarrassed when Clinton was handed her tambourine because it was silenced by tape or something? :o

Macfanforever 12-02-2015 09:53 AM

I thought they were singing and playing live.

Heres Pres Clinton's FM inaugural footage from YT from user Lindsey Buckingham Gems





From user Fleetwood Mac




If they were performing in last weeks Macy's Thanksgiving day parade.
They will be lip syncing to a tape or singing live to pre-recorded music.

FuzzyPlum 12-02-2015 11:35 AM

I forgot how long they strung that ending out. Way too many chorus's- to the point of being quite painful. Kick in with another guitar solo Lindsey.

Mr Scarrott 12-02-2015 12:31 PM

I can remember this being discussed on a thread years ago. There was an interview with John McVie in which he said something along the lines of "it wasn't as live as it looked" so we've known about this all the time. Still, someone tried to hide the fact that it wasn't fully live as there are a couple of amps on the stage which were presumably there just for show, unless they were there for the voices, which were live.

The proof was always there is you looked hard enough- at 3:26 on the first of Macfanfover's videos there's a piano glissando that Chris forgets to mime and from about 4:50 there's some fairly hopeless guitar miming going on from Lindsey as well.

Does it matter? Not really, I guess. I suppose this means that there were no fully live performances from just the five from 1982 to 1997 (Rick and Billy were presumably on stage with them in 1990 when Lindsey guested on GYOW and Tear it up ).

I like the Christine interviews that Macfanforever found. She's warm and self-deprecating and has an endearing tendency, which she does acknowledge, to get her years muddled up, saying for example that the Clinton gig was a catalyst for the Dance . Maybe it was, after a fashion, but she's forgetting the Bobby-in-the-shower dream sequence of the Time band...

Macfanforever 12-02-2015 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott (Post 1175914)
I can remember this being discussed on a thread years ago. There was an interview with John McVie in which he said something along the lines of "it wasn't as live as it looked" so we've known about this all the time. Still, someone tried to hide the fact that it wasn't fully live as there are a couple of amps on the stage which were presumably there just for show, unless they were there for the voices, which were live.

The proof was always there is you looked hard enough- at 3:26 on the first of Macfanfover's videos there's a piano glissando that Chris forgets to mime and from about 4:50 there's some fairly hopeless guitar miming going on from Lindsey as well.

Does it matter? Not really, I guess. I suppose this means that there were no fully live performances from just the five from 1982 to 1997 (Rick and Billy were presumably on stage with them in 1990 when Lindsey guested on GYOW and Tear it up ).

I like the Christine interviews that Macfanforever found. She's warm and self-deprecating and has an endearing tendency, which she does acknowledge, to get her years muddled up, saying for example that the Clinton gig was a catalyst for the Dance . Maybe it was, after a fashion, but she's forgetting the Bobby-in-the-shower dream sequence of the Time band...

Thanks for the input Mr Scarrott.

I wonder what was the issue on doing a complete live performance.I must of did not see why in the fine print in this thread or other threads.Time for new glasses again.
LOL.I thought all these year they played live in full there .I guess that happens by watching it on a old 19 inch TV then.No HDTV then.You can see everything now.

olive 12-02-2015 03:20 PM

there are almost no ( SNL maybe ) live singing on network events http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ry?id=24086986

Josh2003 12-03-2015 09:10 AM

Another reason they probably pre-recorded the music: There are only five of them on stage. When was the last time this band has/had performed with just the five members? They would have needed all the other backing musicians to recreate the sound they probably wanted, and that would have been super inefficient for that one-off performance, not to mention the "who are those other people?" question that would have ruined was was, for the most part, just one big photo op.

FuzzyPlum 12-03-2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh2003 (Post 1175939)
Another reason they probably pre-recorded the music: There are only five of them on stage. When was the last time this band has/had performed with just the five members? They would have needed all the other backing musicians to recreate the sound they probably wanted, and that would have been super inefficient for that one-off performance, not to mention the "who are those other people?" question that would have ruined was was, for the most part, just one big photo op.

At that time the full 5 line up had never played with all the other musicians on stage with them so it should have been quite natural. The backing musicians came later.

olive 12-03-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh2003 (Post 1175939)
Another reason they probably pre-recorded the music: There are only five of them on stage. When was the last time this band has/had performed with just the five members? They would have needed all the other backing musicians to recreate the sound they probably wanted, and that would have been super inefficient for that one-off performance, not to mention the "who are those other people?" question that would have ruined was was, for the most part, just one big photo op.

even with full orchestra they would not be playing live on a live television
broadcast it's just not done except for P!NK and on snL


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