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pauls90 07-24-2015 01:14 PM

Christine Suggests Bandmates To Write For Each Other
 
So I tried to see if anyone posted this, but thought it was interesting she would suggest this so publicly.

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christinemcvieofficial: It might be an interesting thing to do for the next Fleetwood Mac record... to write a song for Lindsey to sing or vice versa... or for Stevie to write a song for me and see what would happen... That would be an interesting direction to go in.
I wonder how hard Lindsey and Christine are pushing for this idea behind the scenes. Do you think they could get Stevie down for it at this point?

michelej1 07-24-2015 01:27 PM

That is interesting. It reminds me of the Hold Me conversation in the limo. Clearly, Christine could hear Lindsey on those verses she'd written.

I mean, Christine could sing Say You Will. I think it was written as an imitation of her writing.

And I've always said that Miranda sounded like something Stevie could sing.

And of course, we've had that time Stevie talked about Lindsey on WISYA.

Michele

KenB 07-24-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1170345)
That is interesting. It reminds me of the Hold Me conversation in the limo. Clearly, Christine could hear Lindsey on those verses she'd written.


Is there a video or a transcript of this conversation? What do we know about it exactly?

jbrownsjr 07-24-2015 04:59 PM

I saw this post. I think it's a wonderful idea. The more a band is a band.. the better they are. The power of this 5 group of people is incredible.

redbird 07-24-2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1170351)
I saw this post. I think it's a wonderful idea. The more a band is a band.. the better they are. The power of this 5 group of people is incredible.

Agreed, I'd definitely be more interested in a project with that kind of angle.

Macfanforever 07-24-2015 05:59 PM

That would be different.Go for it.

jbrownsjr 07-24-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1170353)
That would be different.Go for it.

Christine will make it happen. The woman can moves mountains.
If there was ever a person to get Lindsey and Stevie in a mutual space, it's Christine McVie.

Macfanforever 07-24-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1170355)
Christine will make it happen. The woman can moves mountains.
If there was ever a person to get Lindsey and Stevie in a mutual space, it's Christine McVie.

Yes .Christine reminds me of my late sister.She was the family referee,Holiday get together organizer and family moderator.She got my divorced mother and father along with my stepfather under the same roof for the holidays.

In time Chris will make it happen.Shockingly she's back with the band.

Nick 07-24-2015 06:36 PM

I love this idea. As someone said in the comments on FB, "Angel" from "Tusk" which was sung by Stevie sounds like it could have been written by Christine.

michelej1 07-24-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KenB (Post 1170349)
Is there a video or a transcript of this conversation? What do we know about it exactly?

There's just a bad audio tape. It's one of the "limo" conversation tapes. She's not saying anything other than that she asked Lindsey to sing on Hold Me and Stevie objected.

Michele

Nick 07-24-2015 07:23 PM

Huh? This was just posted on FB. I can't see this being pulled from an old interview.

elle 07-24-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1170361)
There's just a bad audio tape. It's one of the "limo" conversation tapes. She's not saying anything other than that she asked Lindsey to sing on Hold Me and Stevie objected.

Michele

why was she objecting?

Wdm6789 07-24-2015 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1170361)
There's just a bad audio tape. It's one of the "limo" conversation tapes. She's not saying anything other than that she asked Lindsey to sing on Hold Me and Stevie objected.

Michele



Do you happen to have a link?

michelej1 07-24-2015 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1170362)
Huh? This was just posted on FB. I can't see this being pulled from an old interview.

I'm not talking about this quote from Christine that was just on Facebook.

All I said is that what she said NOW reminds me of the old (more than 30 years old now) limo tape thing about Hold Me.

All i meant is that I think she has written with Lindsey's voice in mind before, probably because she liked the result on Don't Stop.

And also reminds me that the Macsters sound like each other on Say You Will (the song) and Miranda. And of course we have Lindsey on Crystal, as well.

Michele

nicole21290 07-24-2015 08:06 PM

Social media lackey dug deep for this 'new' quote!!!

SONGWRITER CONNECTION, 1984

http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph..._v2&id=780&c=2

You’ve done a lot of co-writing for your solo album, but there hasn’t been a lot of co-writing among the members of Fleetwood Mac.

CM: It might be an interesting thing to do for the next Fleetwood Mac record…to write a song for Lindsey to sing or vice versa…or for Stevie to write a song for me and see what would happen. Or as you say to co-write a bit more. That would be an interesting direction to go in. We’re going to try and do something different this time, and away from even what we expect to do. We haven’t really formed any concrete plan at the moment, but whatever it is, it’s going to have a twist.

michelej1 07-24-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1170363)
why was she objecting?

She was just rambling. She told Christine that if she had Lindsey sing on Hold Me it was over between them. Over.

You guys have all heard the limo tapes before. They were just high or drunk. Laughing and mumbling.

Michele

michelej1 07-24-2015 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1170366)
Social media lackey dug deep for this 'new' quote!!!
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Oh, I am sort of disappointed. I wanted them to be thinking along these lines NOW.

Michele

bombaysaffires 07-24-2015 08:16 PM

I'm wondering if anyone has the link or a transcript from the limo convo where Chris talks about Stevie objecting re Hold Me.

And actually, the first Chris/Lindsey 'duo' was World Turning (oddly enough another collaboration that Stevie wasn't happy about). I love that there's been at least one such song on every album: World Turning (white album); Don't Stop (Rumours); Think About Me (Tusk); Hold Me (Mirage); Little Lies (Tango) -- and wasn't this yet another Stevie objection, where Stevie griped and Chris said "we wanted your voice too but you weren't here" and Stevie apologized and they added her voice? (or am I mixing this up from something on Mirage???) Chris and Lindsey partnering up so to speak is a FM tradition.

michelej1 07-24-2015 08:17 PM

Someone did transcribe it for us in the past:


Chris: Anyway, you gotta listen to this it's uh..."
Stevie: of Lindsey singing Hold Me?"
Chris: Lindsey singing Hold Me...
Stevie: I'll never forgive you if you let Lindsey sing one of your songs and not me.
Chris: No, no. The thing is he's gonna sing it, and I'm gonna sing it longer.
Stevie: That's it! It's over!
Chris: No, no, no. Stevie ...
Stevie: You heard (starts singing) "It's over, it's over, it over like it never was before."
Chris: No, Stevie I've got a song for you. You've got a song for me. Lindsey's got a song for me. Lindsey's got a song for you. You have a song for Lindsey.
Stevie:They've got a song for us.

michelej1 07-24-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1170369)
Little Lies (Tango) -- and wasn't this yet another Stevie objection, where Stevie griped and Chris said "we wanted your voice too but you weren't here" and Stevie apologized and they added her voice? (or am I mixing this up from something on Mirage???) Chris and Lindsey partnering up so to speak is a FM tradition.

Stevie may have been complaining she wasn't on Everywhere. But it was definitely a Tango song.

Michele

Macfan4life 07-24-2015 08:22 PM

I love this idea too. It shows Chris has new ideas and energy for the new album
BUT
As others have pointed out....this could be an old story from the 1984 interview that I remember once I read it.

I follow Christine McVie on twitter but I suspect like many celebrities it is controlled by a P.R. person. I say this for a few reasons and this quote is one of them. She never re-tweets anything or has any interaction. Last year there was another Christine McVie twitter that was really her and she would pose questions, retweet, and post new photos, etc. This account was taken down I suspect because right after she posted the photo with Joe Walsh from the Eagles concert in London, some people started posted nasty things about Stevie and Joe. After this she stopped posting and it went away.

Just my theory.

michelej1 07-24-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1170372)
I follow Christine McVie on twitter but I suspect like many celebrities it is controlled by a P.R. person. I say this for a few reasons and this quote is one of them. She never re-tweets anything or has any interaction. Last year there was another Christine McVie twitter that was really her and she would pose questions, retweet, and post new photos, etc. This account was taken down I suspect because right after she posted the photo with Joe Walsh from the Eagles concert in London, some people started posted nasty things about Stevie and Joe. After this she stopped posting and it went away.

Just my theory.

I saw a repost from her twitter on Facebook and I was kind of happy because she quoted the "woo me until the sun comes up" and I have to say there's something about that simple lyric that gets to me. It made me happy that Christine repeated that line, like it was one of her favorites too. Now, that it probably wasn't Christine who did that, I am sad again.

No, I am sure you are right that it's a social media person tweeting for her.

Michele

nicepace 07-25-2015 11:20 AM

Bottom line: posts from "Christine" on Facebook or Twitter are NOT from Christine. They are from "social media lackey." (I like that.) So ... don't believe any of it.

jbrownsjr 07-25-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1170386)
Bottom line: posts from "Christine" on Facebook or Twitter are NOT from Christine. They are from "social media lackey." (I like that.) So ... don't believe any of it.

Agreed.... I believe some of it.. but, it's not her..

aleuzzi 07-25-2015 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1170366)
Social media lackey dug deep for this 'new' quote!!!

SONGWRITER CONNECTION, 1984

http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph..._v2&id=780&c=2

You’ve done a lot of co-writing for your solo album, but there hasn’t been a lot of co-writing among the members of Fleetwood Mac.

CM: It might be an interesting thing to do for the next Fleetwood Mac record…to write a song for Lindsey to sing or vice versa…or for Stevie to write a song for me and see what would happen. Or as you say to co-write a bit more. That would be an interesting direction to go in. We’re going to try and do something different this time, and away from even what we expect to do. We haven’t really formed any concrete plan at the moment, but whatever it is, it’s going to have a twist.

Thank you! I was just about to cite this interview, since I remember it the first time out. She was talking about the band making Tango.

Hey, if she still wants to do it, great, anything to get a friggin album out.

Also, as commercial as the song Say You Will is, I can't imagine Christine singing it. It doesn't fit with her voice. The "joke" post about Christine singing Blue Denim actually is more plausible. She could do a lot with that song.

aleuzzi 07-25-2015 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1170370)
Someone did transcribe it for us in the past:


Chris: Anyway, you gotta listen to this it's uh..."
Stevie: of Lindsey singing Hold Me?"
Chris: Lindsey singing Hold Me...
Stevie: I'll never forgive you if you let Lindsey sing one of your songs and not me.
Chris: No, no. The thing is he's gonna sing it, and I'm gonna sing it longer.
Stevie: That's it! It's over!
Chris: No, no, no. Stevie ...
Stevie: You heard (starts singing) "It's over, it's over, it over like it never was before."
Chris: No, Stevie I've got a song for you. You've got a song for me. Lindsey's got a song for me. Lindsey's got a song for you. You have a song for Lindsey.
Stevie:They've got a song for us.

And this isn't the first time Christine had Lindsey sing on one of her songs. Don't Stop, Think About Me. He took over the vocal for You and I Part II, which was originally sung by Christine. Stevie had him sing Crystal and share the vocal on I Don't Wanna Know. As far as I know, these acts have never been returned.

michelej1 07-25-2015 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1170389)
And this isn't the first time Christine had Lindsey sing on one of her songs. Don't Stop, Think About Me. He took over the vocal for You and I Part II, which was originally sung by Christine. Stevie had him sing Crystal and share the vocal on I Don't Wanna Know. As far as I know, these acts have never been returned.

To entice Stevie to sing on the EP, he tried to present songs that she'd want to sing on to her. He tried to make songs that he thought would appeal to her and her vocal stylings. He may not have been successful, but that was his goal.

Michele

welcomechris 07-25-2015 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1170366)
Social media lackey dug deep for this 'new' quote!!!

SONGWRITER CONNECTION, 1984

http://bla.fleetwoodmac.net/index.ph..._v2&id=780&c=2

You’ve done a lot of co-writing for your solo album, but there hasn’t been a lot of co-writing among the members of Fleetwood Mac.

CM: It might be an interesting thing to do for the next Fleetwood Mac record…to write a song for Lindsey to sing or vice versa…or for Stevie to write a song for me and see what would happen. Or as you say to co-write a bit more. That would be an interesting direction to go in. We’re going to try and do something different this time, and away from even what we expect to do. We haven’t really formed any concrete plan at the moment, but whatever it is, it’s going to have a twist.

Thanks for finding this. I'm disappointed. I'm ready to think we aren't getting a new album.


Quote:

Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1170386)
Bottom line: posts from "Christine" on Facebook or Twitter are NOT from Christine. They are from "social media lackey." (I like that.) So ... don't believe any of it.

Exactly, I don't like how they have been lying to us about this.

MikeVielhaber 07-25-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1170388)
Thank you! I was just about to cite this interview, since I remember it the first time out. She was talking about the band making Tango.

Hey, if she still wants to do it, great, anything to get a friggin album out.

Also, as commercial as the song Say You Will is, I can't imagine Christine singing it. It doesn't fit with her voice. The "joke" post about Christine singing Blue Denim actually is more plausible. She could do a lot with that song.

I can't hear Christine on "Say You Will" either and I don't think Stevie was trying to cop Christine's style I think she was just trying to write something catchy.

sorcerer999 07-25-2015 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1170401)
I can't hear Christine on "Say You Will" either and I don't think Stevie was trying to cop Christine's style I think she was just trying to write something catchy.

Stevie - "Is it commercial? I pray to the commercial Gods!" :rolleyes:

michelej1 07-25-2015 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1170401)
I can't hear Christine on "Say You Will" either and I don't think Stevie was trying to cop Christine's style I think she was just trying to write something catchy.

I think she was very much trying to pattern herself after the type of first singles the Mac traditionally released. Whether she was trying to write like Christine specifically, I think she was definitely trying to write something that people who enjoyed Little Lies would like and something that neither she nor Lindsey would strive for, left to their own devices. Stevie has rarely written such linear lyrics before. Michele

vivfox 07-26-2015 08:36 AM

I would love to hear a three verse song where each of them get a verse and they all sing the chorus together in a well recorded, distinct 3 part harmony.

welcomechris 07-26-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1170434)
I would love to hear a three verse song where each of them get a verse and they all sing the chorus together in a well recorded, distinct 3 part harmony.

That would be great, kind of like the Beatles did on "Free As A Bird".

pauls90 07-26-2015 11:25 AM

But why would Christine allow her team to post this quote?

Nick 07-26-2015 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pauls90 (Post 1170442)
But why would Christine allow her team to post this quote?

Exactly. If in fact this comment was from an old interview, why couldn't they revisit this idea for the next album? I still think they want to get a new album out in 2016.

elle 07-26-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1170444)
Exactly. If in fact this comment was from an old interview, why couldn't they revisit this idea for the next album? I still think they want to get a new album out in 2016.

if by "they" you mean majority of FM, sure. Christine and Lindsey and Mick for sure. but that was never in question. (well, in fact it was, they wanted it out in 2014. then in 2015. now it's pushed to 2016.)

maybe revisiting this old quote is a way of clamoring from Christine's team to get the rogue / unwilling member on board (hey, you don't have to even write any songs, we'll do that for ya, just sing the lead on some of them!). ;)

jbrownsjr 07-26-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1170409)
I think she was very much trying to pattern herself after the type of first singles the Mac traditionally released. Whether she was trying to write like Christine specifically, I think she was definitely trying to write something that people who enjoyed Little Lies would like and something that neither she nor Lindsey would strive for, left to their own devices. Stevie has rarely written such linear lyrics before. Michele

Absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind.

Andy Man 07-26-2015 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1170409)
I think she was very much trying to pattern herself after the type of first singles the Mac traditionally released. Whether she was trying to write like Christine specifically, I think she was definitely trying to write something that people who enjoyed Little Lies would like and something that neither she nor Lindsey would strive for, left to their own devices. Stevie has rarely written such linear lyrics before. Michele

Absolutely. I've always thought that even by titling the song "Say You Will" was a direct reference to "Say You Love Me". It was Stevie's attempt to fill the void that was within the band with Christine gone. A lack of Christine meant that the album was devoid of her up-tempo and optimistic views on love. I think the song "Say You Will" was a way to have Christine on the album without her being there at all (both lyrically and musically).

aleuzzi 07-26-2015 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Man (Post 1170454)
Absolutely. I've always thought that even by titling the song "Say You Will" was a direct reference to "Say You Love Me". It was Stevie's attempt to fill the void that was within the band with Christine gone... I think the song "Say You Will" was a way to have Christine on the album without her being there at all (both lyrically and musically).

I agree with this. But I still can't imagine Christine singing this song. It may be as commercial as a Christine song, and its presence on an album that takes its name from it may have been an attempt to fill the void Christine left, but it is, alas, not a song Christine would likely write or sing. She probably loved the song, though.

johnnystorms 07-27-2015 12:49 AM

I guess I'm alone in this but I could totally hear CM sing Say You Will. kind of using the vocal stylings she sang on Temporary One


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